Spider-Man: Brand New Day General News and Discussion Thread

[Kev4000]

I expect Zendaya’s role to be small until she remembers Peter. There’s no point in giving her something substantial to do when she has no idea who Peter Parker is and no reason for her to care. If it were up to me I wouldn’t undue the spell for a couple of Spider-Man movies…wait for the finale to complicate things if you’re gonna undue it.

I guess it will be like Amazing Spider-Man, where Garfield observe Stone from the distance in grieve.

 

[mclay18]

I’m curious why they announced Jon Bernthal but not Charlie Cox. Will Charlie have another unannounced cameo?

 

[mclay18]

So Zendaya is officially back according to Hollywood Reporter?

Dead on arrival for me

What, pray tell, is wrong with Zendaya returning? If her part is well written and her scheduling fits, why wouldn’t she?

 

[DyeLorean]

I feel bad for Charlie Cox. He should have a major role in a big Marvel film already. He's still stuck in TV land.

 

[psylockolussus]

I feel bad for Charlie Cox. He should have a major role in a big Marvel film already. He's still stuck in TV land.

Daredevil should have been given a film. I think Marvel Studios and Disney are simply not interested in a Daredevil movie.

 

[psylockolussus]

What, pray tell, is wrong with Zendaya returning? If her part is well written and her scheduling fits, why wouldn’t she?

I was actually looking forward to see Spider-Man without Ned/MJ in a Spider-Man movie, and for Spider-Man to meet characters we haven't seen in a MCU Spider-Man movie.

I don't particularly find those two interesting, so meh!

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

I feel bad for Charlie Cox. He should have a major role in a big Marvel film already. He's still stuck in TV land.

While yes, I'd like a Daredevil film, I think the episodic format really suits the character, if just based on what the Netflix show started. Would I feel different if Daredevil had been in the MCU proper before getting a streaming show? Maybe, though I haven't seen Born Again yet.

But on TV, he's arguably had more character development in just a few seasons than a lot of MCU characters have across several films.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Directly confirmed by movie studios (Sony & Marvel Studios):

• March 31: Tom Holland as Spider-Man

Directly confirmed by trade (professional industry) media:

• March 12: Sadie Sink as [TBA (to be announced)]
• May 8: Liza Colón-Zayas as [TBA]
• June 20: Jon Bernthal as The Punisher

Indirectly confirmed (no headlines) by trade (professional industry) media:

• June 20: Zendaya as MJ
• June 20: Jacob Batalon as Ned

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Rumored by movie gossip media:

• May 26: Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner

Rumored by social media gossipers & Patreon panhandlers

• March 23: New Female Lead - A sharp and free-spirited woman with a mysterious past. Strong-willed, intelligent, and not easily intimidated. SET Sadie Sink
• March 23: Female Villain - 30s-50s, any ethnicity. A powerful and imposing figure. Seeking an actress with strong and commanding screen presence and depth. Negotiation with someone (doesn't say who)
• March 23: New Male Role - A resourceful young man in his early 20s.
• March 23: New Male Role - 30s-50s, any ethnicity. A no-nonsense authority figure who sees the world in black and white. Loyal, determined, and willing to cross lines to maintain order.
• May 20: [Michael Mando as] Scorpion
• May 20: Tombstone
• May 20: Boomerang

 

[Still Wynning]

I’m actually becoming more and more interested in this.

As nice as it would be to have a full on solo Spider-Man film, from a little research I’ve done over the years, some of his other best and memorable moments in comics were when he interacted or met with other heroes, either through other characters entering into his world or him entering into theirs. Fantastic Four (namely Johnny Storm/The Human Torch), Wolverine, Captain America, etc. I mean, Spider-Man TAS, one of the most well regarded Spider-Man cartoons, has quite a few instances of other characters dropping in to his stories every so often. It’s not completely unprecedented.

Also, him interacting with all of the villains and the other Peter Parkers/Spider-Men was considered pretty unanimously by a lot of people to be one of the best parts of No Way Home. And, while it did come about as the result of a gimmick, the filmmakers didn’t just rest on that and did use it to pretty decent effect to help feed into MCU Peter’s story. It seems like Brand New Day film is just extrapolating that concept over an entire film, minus the Multiverse angle and taking a more grounded approach, which is kind of something that’s already been done in his comics before anyway.

I expect Zendaya’s role to be small until she remembers Peter. There’s no point in giving her something substantial to do when she has no idea who Peter Parker is and no reason for her to care. If it were up to me I wouldn’t undue the spell for a couple of Spider-Man movies…wait for the finale to complicate things if you’re gonna undue it.

From some of the rumors that I read, I’m pretty sure this is the case.

I imagine maybe the next film is when they’ll probably start increasing her role and bring her back a bit more to the forefront as she becomes more involved in Peter’s life again, either through small interactions or possibly her unconsciously breaking the memory spell somehow.

Having Frank Castle/The Punisher in this film is also a nice way to plant the seeds of and bring out that darkness that could be further explored in Spider-Man 5 with him in the black Symbiote suit dishing out justice with more brutal, ruthless and violent methods due to his unstable emotional state. Movie 5 could then bring in Matt Murdock/Daredevil as a voice of reason and conscience to help bring Peter back from the drink and help show and teach him how to balance his civilian life and superhero activities.

If you’re going to have crossovers and bring in other heroes, actually using them in the story as a way to feed into Peter’s character arc and not just for the sake of it or solely as fan service is a good way to do it.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

This is what the writers of NWH said about the symbiote being left behind at the end of NWH:

Spider-Man: No Way Home Writers On Tom Hardy’s Venom Symbiote In The MCU

The writers for ‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’ discuss leaving behind Tom Hardy’s Venom symbiote in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU).

heroichollywood.com

With some Venom symbiote left behind, some have wondered how this will factor into a fourth Spider-Man film with Tom Holland. Well, Erik Sommers and Chris McKenna, the writers of No Way Home, discussed some of the opportunities that may arise from Tom Hardy’s Venom leaving behind the symbiote:

Erik Sommers: It leaves the door open for possibilities. As opposed to just seeing him go back and not seeing any symbiote. So it just allows for some exciting possibilities in the future.

Chris McKenna: I have no idea. That is above our pay grade. We are part of a bigger, larger universe that we are not the gods of, we’re just mortals in.

Mexico is a huge country where the symbiote was left behind, though Mexico is also the special location of Bruce Banner during She-Hulk. Which may or may not be relevant if both of them are in the movie.

Bruce Banner's Island

Bruce Banner's Island is a private island in Mexico given to Bruce Banner by Tony Stark. Sometime after the Snap, Tony Stark acquired a private island in Mexico for Bruce Banner. On the island, Stark built a house with a laboratory in the basement so he could work on his gamma experiments. The...

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[Still Wynning]

This is what the writers of NWH said about the symbiote being left behind at the end of NWH:

Spider-Man: No Way Home Writers On Tom Hardy’s Venom Symbiote In The MCU

The writers for ‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’ discuss leaving behind Tom Hardy’s Venom symbiote in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU).

heroichollywood.com

Mexico is a huge country where the symbiote was left behind, though Mexico is also the special location of Bruce Banner during She-Hulk. Which may or may not be relevant if both of them are in the movie.

Bruce Banner's Island

Bruce Banner's Island is a private island in Mexico given to Bruce Banner by Tony Stark. Sometime after the Snap, Tony Stark acquired a private island in Mexico for Bruce Banner. On the island, Stark built a house with a laboratory in the basement so he could work on his gamma experiments. The...

marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com

I did see that two of the locations they are filming in are Morocco and Italy. I wonder if they’re using them as stand-ins for Mexico?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Castle is going to get the Winter Soldier treatment in this. Remember what Bucky Barnes was like when he was the brainwashed HYDRA Assassin in Captain America: the Winter Soldier? That's how Frank should be treated in this new Spider-Man move. Bucky in Cap 2 was violent and ruthless and yet the movie kept it's PG-13 rating. Now I don't expect Castle to go the full arc like Bucky has in the MCU, but I also don't expect Castle to be neutered in Spider-Man: Brand New Day.

Bucky has been less violent and ruthless since then, obviously because he's a good guy now wanting to try to redeem himself, and for a character like Bucky, that makes sense. It doesn't make sense for Frank.

 

[Still Wynning]

Castle is going to get the Winter Soldier treatment in this. Remember what Bucky Barnes was like when he was the brainwashed HYDRA Assassin in Captain America: the Winter Soldier? That's how Frank should be treated in this new Spider-Man move. Bucky in Cap 2 was violent and ruthless and yet the movie kept it's PG-13 rating. Now I don't expect Castle to go the full arc like Bucky has in the MCU, but I also don't expect Castle to be neutered in Spider-Man: Brand New Day.

I almost see it going The Dark Knight route, where the most violent acts are never shown but heavily implied (the “magic trick” with the pencil, the knife cutting the inside of Michael Jai White’s character mouth, the “tryouts” with the broken pool cues, the remote activated bomb inside the prisoner, etc.) You still kind of get that visceral quality and reaction to what’s going on screen even without actually seeing it.

 

[Still Wynning]

I normally don’t post stuff related to this guy because I think he’s usually pretty full of s**t, but I thought I’d put it here since it relates to stuff that’s been announced recently for this film:



Also, thought I’d post this screen-cap I took of someone’s comment of a theory of what they think the plot could entail based on all the rumors/leaks that have come out:

Spoiler

If true and this comes to pass, they might actually be cooking something with this film.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

You can always tell when boys/men are writing their comic movie fanfiction because women play no role in the stories at all. It never fails.