Spiderman 3.1 Final Swing Edition- Fan edit

Anyone can post the entire list of the changes, please?
 
I'd post the list I have on here. But I'm at the library and I forgot my flash key at home. But I'll post it as soon as I can.
 
I'm also considering of eliminating any reference to Sandman bein Uncle Ben's killer. Cause that wasn't needed in the film, imo. It forced a connection that wasn't there to begin with.

So we'd lose the scene with Peter and Aunt May at the police station. And we'd lose Peter talking to Sandman in the sewers. (Which makes it more out of rage at the fact that Peter couldnt take him down the first time. Or the symbiote taking control a little bit)
 
Here is the outline ladies and gentlemen. It's a rough outline so far, as I'm looking at ideas and tweaking it here and there. It incorporates aspects from Vash1538's outline as well.

SPIDER-MAN 3.1 - The Final Swing

Notes: Thanks to Vash1538 for helping inspire for this edit. I tweaked some of his ideas here and there. But for the most part, I'd like to give him credit for the outline.

Also, I'm toying with the idea of removing Sandman killing Uncle Ben from the film. Mostly because it'd be kinda interesting to have Sandman just appear and be a bad guy of the week type than having more ties to Peter than he's suppose to. Therefore it also strengthens the heart of the film which will be about Peter and Harry.

1. New music in opening titles (Spider-Man 2 rendition)
2. Now opens with the Crane Accident.
(To introduce new characters towards the beginning of the film. Instead of forty minutes into the film.)
3. Peter's opening voice-over has been removed.
4. After the Crane Accident, we cut to the exterior shot of MJ's play.
5. Removed Peter confronting Harry outside theater.
6. Removed Peter/MJ conversation backstage.
7. We cut to Flint Marko seeing his daughter.
8. Cut after Flint Marko walks out saying that "He's not a bad guy. Just has bad luck."
9. We now see Peter and MJ at the park.
10. Removed Harry coming out of Goblin chamber.
(Believed that it hits audiences over the head. Removing this prolongs what Harry did at the end of Spider-Man 2.)
11. After Peter and MJ ride off, we see Marko being chased in the marshlands.
12. Removed the pointless scene with Capt. Stacy at the police station talking about Marko.
13. Removed scientists during Sandman's transformation.
14. Peter tells Aunt May he's going to ask MJ to marry him.
15. Removed Aunt May talking about Uncle Ben's death, etc.
16. Added Spider-sense sound effect before Harry grabs Peter.
(As Peter's face goes from happy to concerned)
17. Removed "You knew this was coming"
18. Removed Harry's x-games sequence in alleyway.
19. After "Hate those things.", Peter tricks Harry to fly into buzz bombs.
20. Removed Harry hitting his head after Peter nails him with webline.
(It's not suppose to be funny)
21. Following Peter watching doctors work, Birth of Sandman sequence.
22. Peter learns Harry's okay.
23. Cut after Peter tells Harry he'll see him tomorrow.
(We don't need to see Harry talking to the nurse about his friends.)
24. Removed vibrating desk at Daily Bugle.
25. Eddie tries to sell photos to J.Jonah.
26. Next, Harry comes home. Cut after "Maybe I can turn this no girlfriend thing around."
27. Now, Sandman's first attack.
28. After, Peter's looking at the ring.
29. MJ's talk with Peter altered to make her less whiny.
30. Altered police scanner to now reference sandman's attack instead of the crane sequence.
31. Marko's attack on armored car vs. Spidey.
32. Removed "Pfft." from Peter emptying boots.
33. MJ, now, walks to the theater to find out they cut her.
34. Spidey Day all by itself, no cut aways to Sandman.
35. Removed Peter dancing with the band.
(Pointless and makes Peter a complete dork.)
36. Cut after little kid says "Yuck"
37. Restaurant scene for the Unfortunate Proposal.
38. Altered Gwen's talk with Peter and MJ.
(To make Peter a little bit more of a jerk)
39. Transition after Peter finds out Marko is Uncle Ben's killer: Peter in apartment turning up the volume on police scanner.
40. Symbiote takes over Peter.
41. Alter symbiote's p.o.v. in b&w. (Looks cooler.)
42. Peter now screams "Answer Me" to the mugger, which causes the mugger to fall out the window.
43. Removed Peter clinging to the tower in awe of the symbiote and removing mask.


 
44. Webslinging Sequence: Peter now stumbles upon bank robbery with Sandman while trying out the suit.
45. Added Peter saying "Marko" when he sees the sand flowing into the drain.
46. Removed shot of Spidey swinging in sewer after he breaks the pipe.
(Peter now watches Sandman "die" and says "Good Riddance". Basically try and make Peter more aggressive while in suit.)
47. Removed Peter in alleyway after "death" of Sandman.
48. Added symbiote in the mirror.
49. Peter and MJ talk (originally, earlier, after he found out about Sandman killing Uncle Ben.)
(He's now more unnerved and aggressive)
50. After, MJ walks out of the jazz club accepting the job. She calls Harry to talk to.
51. Cut to Peter and Aunt May talk about Spider-Man killing Sandman.
52. Exterior shot of Osborn Mansion.
53. Removed MJ walking off the elevator and dancing sequence.
54. Cut to Harry and MJ reading the play he wrote for her.
55. Cut to Connor and Peter talking about the symbiote and how it's hard to unbind.
56. Added Goblin laugh to Harry looking at mirror.
57. Added voice-over to Harry walking to the mirror of Norman
"Harry...you swore to make Spider-Man pay...now make him pay!"
58. Harry's flashback continues and when he thinks of Peter.
"You stole MJ from me...you stole my fathers love...then you let him die."
59. We fade back into Norman looking at Harry in the mirror.
60. Peter thinks of calling MJ and talks to his landlord.
61. Peter calls, MJ walks into the apartment where Peter's leaving the message. Then Harry ambushes her.
62. Removed "If you want Peter to live."
63. Ursula tells Peter that Mary Jane's called him back.
64. Added Black Spidey webswinging on his way to the park.
65. Peter and MJ at the park. Alter slightly to remove as much of Peter crying as possible.
66. Removed Harry in the bushes.
67. Removed MJ walking from the bridge.
68. Coffee shop scene with Harry and Peter.
69. Added Peter and Harry fight from Spider-Man 3:Dark Cut. Used with permission.
70. Peter sees Brock's "photos" from Spider-Man 3: Dark Cut. Used with permission.
71. Removed "Saturday Night Fever" sequence.
(Lame..Lame..and More Lame.)
72. Peter hits on Betty (?) Also demands the staff job.
73. Peter and Gwen's "date" at the Jazz Club from Spider-Man 3: Dark Cut. Used with permission.
74. Also zooming into Venom's mouth fades to black from Spider-Man 3: Dark Cut. Used with permission.
75. After Peter in the shower, nighttime shot of NY as Peter looks up at MJ's apartment.
76. Aunt May talk with Peter, Peter gives her back the ring.
77. Altered talk with Sandman and Venom. (Venom's voice altered)
(Sandman doesn't want him dead, just out of the way. Also just nods instead of saying 'yes')
78. Removed Peter asking Harry for help.
79. Removed Harry talking to his butler.
80. Venom jumps MJ in the taxi.
81. MJ's cab falls after a few seconds.
82. Peter in apartment looking at his red and blue.
83. Removed as much of the reporters, crowds, Jameson, kids as possible.
(Focuses on Final Battle more exclusively)
84. Removed cliche talk with MJ and Peter. MJ says "Peter" and then he's attacked by Venom.
85. Added Spider-Sense as Sandman rears up.
86. Remove roar of Sandman before hitting Peter.
87. Removed "You came."
(We don't know Harry's intentions as of yet)
88. Use clip of Peter and Harry saving MJ from Dark Cut, with permission.
89. Removed Peter's speech about the suit.
(Now says "You've got to take it off" which responds with "Oh you'd like that wouldn't you? I like being bad...It makes me happy")
90. Altered Harry's sacrifice to be more noble. Remove Harry falling after being thrown by Venom.
91. Removed Peter looking at metal spear.
(Now looks at it, then webshoots)
92. Altered Sandman and Peter's talk.
(Ends after Sandman says "I don't ask for you to forgive me. Just wanted you to understand.")
93. Added Flashback of Peter asking Harry for help (in b&w) during the final talk.
94. Cut after Harry's funeral and voiceover ends.
95. End Credits.
 
Update? I'm still super bummed we'll never see Vash's cut, but I'm still interested in seeing yours!
 
wow :wow:

all those changes seem that it will make the movie indefinately better!
 
In other news, I hear this fanedit is really good.

http://fanedit.org/11286/

INTENTION:
My intention was to try and make an edit of Spider-Man 3 that would stand alongside the first 2 movies and complete the trilogy on the right note.
In this version Flint Marko is no longer the killer of Peter’s uncle, a lot of the humour has also been removed. Peter’s fall to the darkside is no longer brought about through guilt but through his ego and new found self importance.
This version gives more focus to the journeys of Peter and Harry and how both find redemtion for themselves.
EDITING DETAILS & CUTLIST:
After witnessing the beautifully crafted Spider-Man 2 we all waited with bated breath for the 2007 release of Spider-Man 3. The trailers and posters promised so much but on its release we saw a movie that just couldn’t live up to the hype.
Studio & director couldn’t agree and production was fraught with scripting & scheduling problems.
The final film felt rushed with too many villains and inter connecting stories all fighting for screen time. Fans felt cheated in the handling of characters & classic storylines.
Now there is Spider-Man 3 Redemption. A true fan edit that finds a tighter movie with villains moved to supporting roles to allow the Peter/Harry story to reach its deserved finale.
 
I'm willing to give it a shot. Where can I watch it?
 
Lol, I had totally forgotten about this thread!!

Geez, I can't remember what I updated last on this. I finished the film, sent it off to a guy in New York to finish the audio...then it got lost in the mail!!! While this happened, I had joined the Army and was in Boot Camp, so no access to the mail or able to track down the package, long story short, the film was lost!

Now, I'm actually posting in the Batman forum my new project, where I am taking all of Batman Forevers score out of the film, and replacing it with Elfmans, as well as color correction and a complete re-edit of the film. The goal is to make it a proper conclusion to Burtons first two Batman films. Ambitious? Yes, but certainly possible. I've already re-scored 100% of the film, I'm just going back and re-building the sound mix.

What does all this have to do with SM3.1?

Well, I've learned ALOT since I attempted this edit, and 3.1 (if there is still interest) is being planned to follow after Batman Reborn (the Forever edit) is completed. Now, thats going to be a while, probably six months at the least, but I'm targeting summer 2011 for 3.1's release. I'm also planning some bigger changes, since I've gotten pretty good at audio swapping.

Anyways, theres the update. I'm flattered you guys were still interested! I thought it had died a slow death! :) If there is still interest, I will certainly complete it sometime next year after Batman is done.

Oh, the "What If" trailer is back on youtube. The Nazi's over there blocked my old account and took everything down.

JC
 
^ Well, you'll be pleased to know that the gears of production are rolling again for this. I needed a break from the long process that is the Batman edit, so I'm revisiting Spidey, and the scope I have is SOOOOO much bigger than what I had before with the project. I've learned a great many things through the re-scoring of Batman Forever, and I'm bringing that to 3.1.

I'm keeping it on the low until the film is done at fanedit, so if there are those who want to be a foil to my ideas here, it would be awesome!!

JC
 
awesome. can't wait. mine is on the back burner. along with a couple of other projects. everything is practically tba.
 
Hope you'll keep us updated, Vash! I am not exaggerating when I say I've probably watched the 3.1 What If trailer like...200 times (it's playing right now). I love the way you timed Peter's screaming and tearing off the symbiote to the amazing music from the Star Trek trailer. Gets me AMPED! :woot:
 
Haha, thank you. I just finished re-watching the original SM3. Its been so long since I really worked on this, I had forgotten a lot of what was in the film. The good/bad thing with the work I've done on the Batman Forever edit is I've learned how to do some many things that I've gotten really ambitious with this film....the problem is there is only so much that can be done.

Like I want to remove Sandman as Ben's killer, or give him a better send off, but without the deleted scenes, there's just no way to do it. I'd like more Black Spidey time, I'd like more character development, ect.

Now, I am going to go through SM3 The Game and see if I can pull any audio/dialogue that will help with this. I've already done that with SM1 and found some great clips. One BIG change is in this one, Spidey will be VERY talkative, like what we all thought he should be.

Hope to get some heavy duty work done on this between now and when school starts back in Jan. I will certainly keep you guys posted.

For instance: What if the film opened with the Jazz Club scene, then with a monologue reverted back to the beginning after Peter leaves the club and looks up at the tower. I kinda like it, but it might be too cliche.

Thoughts?
 
Vash, if you haven't already seen it, check out the 'Spider-Man 3: Redemption' fan-edit for a few ideas (I created the thread a while ago, it's just a few below this one). The guy did an amazing job removing all traces of Sandman to the Uncle Ben murder, so it might give you some inspiration for how to proceed in a similar matter.

I love the idea of snagging sound bites from the games - plenty of quips to be found there, I'm sure!
 
Thanks for the info. I actually haven't watched any other edits (except for ADM's which got me into this in the first place) because once someone else's ideas are in your head, its hard to come up with your own.

I'm planning on leaving Sandman/Ben's Killer in, though I don't like the idea. Without it, the story loses so much resonance, especially when Black Spidey "kills" him. Still thinking....

As far as the movie, I'm storyboarding and laying out another outline for what I'm wanting to do. Hopefully big announcements will be coming soon. I did spend the afternoon nailing down an opening and closing monologue, so I wanted to see what you guys thought:


Intro: (following the opening credits)

Yeah, that’s my life….complicated. Harry (still) won’t talk to me, (but) Lately things have been going my way. I got the girl and NY finally likes me. There haven’t been any big super villians around since Doc Ock, (but) Don’t think my life is all flowers and romance. Sometimes its just a mugger….(and) sometimes it’s a bigger problem. (Cue the crane accident)


Final Monologue: (During MJ/Peter Dance)

This should be a happy ending….but its not that easy. Harry….being Spiderman always comes with a price, and today that price was high. I don’t like to talk about it, but every time I find someone in trouble, I see my Uncles face. As tough as it gets some days, I have to fight on, because the best way to honor the people I love is to never stop being Your Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman. (Cue Final Swing)

All this can be done via game clips. :)
 
Ok...quick "possible" change of plans. I'm toying with an idea to radically alter my existing plot structure, but I need some input. Can anyone think of a credible way to remove the "amnesia" subplot, without altering too much of Harry's scenes? (with the exception of removing his homecoming to his house with Peter, and the hospital scene.)
 
^ Thank you. Me too! haha.

I've come up with interesting/radical ideas that I'm pursuing. Going to stay mum on most of them until I'm sure I can pull them off. In the meantime though, here is the new intro for the film, should give you an idea of what I'm going for. (Including a newly mixed Main Theme by me! Kinda proud of it. haha)

The audio mix is off by about 1/2 a second....thanks youtube. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBmKEyxMqIA
 
Yeah, it was...although I can still watch it. haha. I think its a trap.

Here it is on another site, where the audio is actually in sync.

http://www.vimeo.com/18218746

how do you get the videos to show directly on this forum?
 
I really liked that. So it starts there and will flashback to the beginning of the story?
 

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