Sequels SPOILER HEAVY: X4 concept

Siniste is just as realistic as any idea you could make, maybe even more so the giant robots

because of the fact that it is well established by the 4th movie, what range of powers these mutants have, they're is no reason that the GP wouldn't believe a geneticist who has a wide array of powers

Apacolypse would be a little harder to explain, but as long as the get the fact that in reality he is the identity of evil incarte and make that known, they will be fine making him a villan
 
I think the Sentinels are far more likely this time out in that they have Trask in the movies already, and he's probably lost his job over the Alcatraz incident. HE'd want revenge on the Mutants and the Prez, so he uses his contacts to unleash the Sentinels. Over time it becomes clear he is chipped by Sinister...

As for Kitty and Collosus, I wouldn't worry about it, by the time this gets made Ellen Page would look older and Colossus in these movies is still only young himself... I would prefer they got away from younger characters though. Gambit, Forge anyone else who comes in needs to be suitably older...
 
supermarvelman said:
Havok shows up to the Mansion looking for answers on his brothers supposed death.

Younger mutants (New Mutants) train in the Danger room, including Jubilee, Cannonball, and Sunspot.

Cyclops is being held captive by Mr. Sinister since the Alkali Lake incident.

Rogues powers start coming back, she accidentally absorbs the powers of flight, super-strength, invulerability. She inadvertantly kills the mutant in the process. She leaves the school once again, eventually meeting Gambit.

Gambit has ties to Mr. Sinister.

Iceman takes on a leadership role.

Kitty and Collossus start to form a relationship.

Finding out that the cure is actually only temporary, the Government starts to develop Sentinels, just in case another Alcatraz incident happens again.

The X-men find out Cyclops might still be alive.

Many mutants start to get there powers back and they are pissed. They ban together and once again attack Washington including Juggernaut, Pyro, Avalnche, Toad and the Blob (which is set up by Mr. Sinister), the Sentinels clean house, one group of X-Men are sent to deal with that.

A second group of X-men search for Cyclops and find him. The X-men fight a group of mutants (The Murauders). They rescue Cyclops but Angel is taken prisoner in the process.

Magneto searches for 2 mutants that might be his children. (Scarlet Witch and QuickSilver)

Mr. Sinister ressurects Apocolypse, Movie ends

Credits role, end of credits Archangel flies towards the screen.

This movie would just be the first half to a 2 part movie arc about Apocolypse like Matrix 2 and 3.

these ideas are awesome. i might just have to do a fan-fic that will incorporate them. it will be the unofficial sequel to X3.
 
Kotagg said:
Gambit Gambit Gambit GambitGambit GambitGambit GambitGambit GambitGambit GambitGambit GambitGambit GambitGambit GambitGambit Gambit

Totally.
 
Was Jubilee at that church when Magneto came in and started his speech about being against humans? Anyways what kind of Gambit would people want, a younger one more like Rogue's age, or an older one?
 
since they effin killed on friday, I'm thinking they will gross enough that they will make another movie. That being said, they would be starting a new trilogy perhaps, one that ultimately led to apoc. battle and then finito to the movies, till about 20 years later till they remake it. But it wouldnt be that hard, given the events in x3, to do like x4 involving sentinels, and introducing sinister and his posse, including gambit, who i think Ryan Reynolds would be awesome for, if u dont know him look him up, hes already done action with blade trinity, and hes friggin jacked anyway plus hes effin hillarios with his quips and one-liners, and bring back cyke and clone jean intro to havok, then in x5 revolving around sinister and his plans to breed them, maybe throw in cable, and x6 be apoc. but whatever is done i would personally like to see less wolverine and storm fighting, more of collossus, iceman, and rogue after absorbing someone to the likes of lady marvel and the other mutants, especially when wolverine is getting his own friggin movie. anyway, those are my thoughts.
 
Wolverine85 said:
Was Jubilee at that church when Magneto came in and started his speech about being against humans? Anyways what kind of Gambit would people want, a younger one more like Rogue's age, or an older one?
I think Gambit should be older than Rogue, but younger than Cyclops or Storm. He should be in his early to mid 20s.IMO
 
Well this is just one of the ideas i had for x4 but i dunno i think it could work..Well as u see in X3 they found the "cure" but what if the "cure" was just like temporarily, and prove how magneto recovers his powers and the concept that rogue could get her powers back plus she can fly and gain strength just like in the concept of the cartoonand others recover their powers.
For villians: Magneto (again), Sinister, Omega Red in which Colossus could face him one on one(could make a great part for X4), Sentinels or Apocolypse.
 
it will happen that the "cure" was just temporary. but u cant have Colossus vs. Omega Red. u have to have Juggernaut vs. Colossus (that'd be the best fight). gotta have the Sentinels and Sinister. and for a new mutant, gotta have Alex Summers aka Havok.
 
I'd go with just sinister but he'd be like a combo of both apoc and sin.
 
well it is never said that rogue actually took the cure. she says that this is who she is and she grabs bobbys hand and soon after it cuts to another scene. but if i remember in x2 it took a little while before she started fully obsorbing his powers. so we dont know that she took the cure. i think she didnt.
 
if they do make an X4, how could someone find out about casting calls and such if it's not local?
 
Kotagg said:
Wow. That's...really not bad at all. Nice work man.

Only two problems I see with it are:

1. Colossus and Kitty might seem a little too "pedo" on the screen, since Ellen Page is so young.

2. The Magneto looking for his kids thing might seem to disjointed from the rest of the movie. Maybe the attack on Washington has Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in it, but Mags shows up and brings them away?

In three years Kitty will look a lot older, just look at the kids from Harry Potter

The Magneto thing would be disjointed, but it would be a way to have Mags in it without him being a villian of any type. It would be hinting at things for the future, like the return of Apocolypse X-Men and Brotherhood would need to team up QuickSilver, & Scarlet Witch would beable seen as heroes, and the same goes for Magneto.
 
Magneto will be working at the school like he did in the comics for a time.
 
chaseter said:
Agree agreed agreed agreed agreed....But Sinister and/or Apoc need to be the new baddies.
I agree, Apocalypse CAN be done so why not do him?

James Earl Jones as the voice, and throw in anyone in a blue suit with face paint and its done.. he would be an awesome villan.
 
Savage said:
And this isn't? We've seen enough Magneto. It's time for some new blood. They have an entire rogue's gallery. It'd be kinda boring to see Green Goblin in every Spider-man movie.

And no I would not like to see Magneto as the headmaster. He seemed way too strong in his convictions. I mean did you see how disgusted he was when Mystique turned and even when he himself was turned? He absolutely loathes these people like they're a virus.


Yet having now had to deal with being human his mind could easily start to sway as it did in the comics, he was headmaster at the intitute for awhile.
 
They didn't set it up for a sequel and they should have. I would start X4 with the end of X3.

Hank has been appointed as ambassador. Then there would be a cut and you would end up in Nevada or desert. An area 51 type complex. As you follow Trask from a helicopter moving down through a series of sublevels. He's poring over notes in a binder or folder.

When he reaches the bottom the doors open and he walks out asking how far along they are. As the camera pans up we see a Sentinel being finished. They discuss how far along they are etc. When the head of the facility asks about the President, Trask has 2 words for him "Plausible Deniability"

Magneto at the institute, teaching young children how to use their powers and to think, but his philosophy wouldn't fit too well. He did have a very strong respect for Charles though, and with him being "cured" maybe it would be enough to have him question his believes for awhile. His powers haven't come close to returning to their full strength but they are returning.
However, when the sentinels start showing up and are geared towards just destroying mutants, of course his old hatreds and animosities come to the forefront once again.
 
Rziro777 said:
Well this is just one of the ideas i had for x4 but i dunno i think it could work..Well as u see in X3 they found the "cure" but what if the "cure" was just like temporarily, and prove how magneto recovers his powers and the concept that rogue could get her powers back plus she can fly and gain strength just like in the concept of the cartoonand others recover their powers.
For villians: Magneto (again), Sinister, Omega Red in which Colossus could face him one on one(could make a great part for X4), Sentinels or Apocolypse.

I thought it was implied it was temporary as at the end of X3 when magneto is playing chess he holds out his hand and the chess piece twitches to me that implies his powers are coming back
 
Hmm. I think Magneto should be in hiding with his kids in X4. I mean the man can be arrested for crimes against humanity and put in an even more high tech cell.

Just have X4 concentrate more on the Summers brothers and Sinister. Have Wolverine take a back seat (for once!). I don't think I'd like to see Magneto has a headmaster...I mean for 1 he's not even a mutant anymore and second, he doesn't believe in Charles' cause...I mean yes he did so in the comic but how long did that last? And was he just using them for something?

Either wat, I just hope we even get an X4. :D
 
Savage said:
Hmm. I think Magneto should be in hiding with his kids in X4. I mean the man can be arrested for crimes against humanity and put in an even more high tech cell.

Just have X4 concentrate more on the Summers brothers and Sinister. Have Wolverine take a back seat (for once!). I don't think I'd like to see Magneto has a headmaster...I mean for 1 he's not even a mutant anymore and second, he doesn't believe in Charles' cause...I mean yes he did so in the comic but how long did that last? And was he just using them for something?

Either wat, I just hope we even get an X4. :D

Well Scott's dead, so the summers brothers is out, though I would like to see Havok come into it. I wouldn't want to see wolverine at all actually, especially since they are doing a spin off.

Magneto I wouldn't have as headmaster but as an instructor only, there would be some good conflict between his opinions and those of the other X-men but I could see him questioning his beliefs at this point.
 
Mrh7448 said:
Well Scott's dead, so the summers brothers is out, though I would like to see Havok come into it. I wouldn't want to see wolverine at all actually, especially since they are doing a spin off.

Magneto I wouldn't have as headmaster but as an instructor only, there would be some good conflict between his opinions and those of the other X-men but I could see him questioning his beliefs at this point.
Well this is where Sinister comes in. He's good with this stuff and he has quite the obsession with the Summers bloodline anyway.:)

And yeah, it would be interesting...hmm. Alright. Guess I'd be able to deal with it since we're not going to see him as the villain again anyway. It'd be a nice resolution for the movies. I just hope after these B.O numbers and the fan feedback (well, outrage) that they really do make a sequel...I'm sure Singer will have the time this time. :D
 
I think Apocolypse or The Hellfire Club would be good options for a fourth film. Also, isn't Moira on Muir Island? If so, that could bring the X-Men to Europe, and also incorporate Banshee or Siryn into the film. The whole European element could come into play now that things are global with Hank McCoy as the UN Secretary. This also might open the door for Illyania (Peter's sister). It would be interesting to see her in a film, too.

The novel in passing mentioned The Hellfire Club, which makes one wonder if this is an approach that a fourth film could take. In the ensuing restructuring of the school with Ororo taking over, it could create a competition for students with The Hellfire Club.

I think the cure was temporary, and Magneto will be back for a fourth film. I really can't imagine he or Xavier not being back. They are both too important to the franchise. For that matter, I hope Mystique comes back as well.
 
Siryn and Banshee. Nice. That would work with the New X-men deal. :) Think about it. A team consisting of Collossus, Shadowcat, Iceman, Jubillee, and Siryn...I'd be even happy with a tv show based around these guys. :)
 
Mrh7448 said:
They didn't set it up for a sequel and they should have. I would start X4 with the end of X3.
That's what I've been trying to explain to everyone. The next movie just can't just pick up with brand new people. It simply wouldn't sell to the general public. That's why I think it would work with the remaining main cast. But with most of the other X3 brotherhood mutants & cured mutants gone, you can bring in fewer new characters (Gambit, Havok, Apocalypse, Sinister, Arcangel, Dark Beast, etc.) to start a new story, or continue on what happened in X3.

Mrh7448 said:
Magneto at the institute, teaching young children how to use their powers and to think, but his philosophy wouldn't fit too well. He did have a very strong respect for Charles though, and with him being "cured" maybe it would be enough to have him question his believes for awhile. His powers haven't come close to returning to their full strength but they are returning.
The other reason why I bring up Magneto raising & training the kids at the institute is because it could lead into the Age of Apocalypse. And like I said, bringing in Apocalypse as a wealthy business man owning a global Bio-genetics company, and having Sinister as his Chief Science advisor, it CAN WORK. You'd just have to build a story around that premise.

Here's another idea for X4:

1) As a favor to his father to check out the "competition", Angel can secretly investigate Apocalypse's company and get captured by Sinister, and turned into Arcangel.

2) Meanwhile, in taking over as a surrogate mentor and teacher to the X-Men, Magneto is still causing tension with the older, main students.

3) Xaivier is still adapting to his new body on Muir island with Moira, but sees that Magneto is sorry for his past actions, and approves of him teaching some of the students for now. Although, the students are still weary of Magneto's actions.

4) As a favor to Xaivier, and seeing the fine work they're doing to help mutants on Muir island, Banshee and Emma Frost could also be (introduced &) sent to the institute to help train some of the younger upcoming students (Cannonball, Husk, Synch, Skin, Sunspot, Jubilee, M).

5) Beast goes to Apocalypse's company to see what happened to Angel, and is captured himself. Subsequently turned into Dark Beast.

I'm not sure how the other horsemen could be worked in, but Apocalypse's
plan could be revealed sometime towards the end, starting up a new set of sequels.
 
I would rather see it done as a trilogy, a second parter. I have no problem bringing in Sinister as the head of a genetic corporation, but I don't like the idea of Apocalypse being part of that.

My preference would be to have Apocalypse as a being who's been imprisoned and SInister is working to unlock his prison.

Maybe the key to opening the "crypt" is the SUmmers DNA, since even in the comics Sinister has been obsessed with that, maybe it has something to do with the nature of their powers.

I would still like to see the first part deal with the sentinels, and bring SInister and more of Magneto in for the second part ending with Apocalypse being set free. Finally in the last part it is the Xmen trying to put down APocalypse.

The way I see it in the first movie Magneto's powers are returning but very slowly, being a master of Genetics Sinister offers to unlock his power once again in full, if he can bring Alex summers to him.
 

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