Apocalypse Spoilers alert for the X-Men Apocalypse Spoilers Thread!

[iacobusleo]

Agreed completely DavidHaller. There is a lot of potential in the movie that, judging from the interviews, Singer wanted to explore but ended up not doing so for whatever reason. These are a few of the things he went on about in the interviews:

1. The nature of religious cults, and their factions.

2. The ancient history of mutants, and where they come from.

3. How Apocalypse may have shaped ancient historical events.

4. Xavier's naive worldview.

5. Mystique given credit for something she does not believe in.

Most of these are there in the movie, but they are either subtle (which is fine, I like the Angel vs Nightcrawler contrast,and the concept of prayer that the movie keeps coming back to) or are given very little coherent focus. And without coherent focus, most of these end up being meaningless (case in point, the opening credits. Fantastic and creative, but what is the point of having it be about 'world history' when your 80s movie does not even reference any major 80s historical events?).

I am not surprised at all that Kinberg cannot pull it off, but why didn't Singer notice it during the editing process? Was a lot just cut out?

 

[Knight_SV]

I wonder if we weill see corsair and the starjammers in the next installment if fox introduced the shi'ar empire. Assuming the parents of alex and scott in the beginning is actually their grandparents not their parents, and alex and scott had the same origins on how they was about to be captured by the shi'ar and then both escaped with their parents help. I want to see them introduced vulcan too

 

[DavidHaller]

Flawless post David. Huge problem, not something I'd really considered, but it would really add weight to the film to explore the Horsemen deeper. In particular, it would compensate for the lack humanity in Apocalypse. He's by far the least complicated villain in the series.

thank you! This movie just feels like so much wasted potential.

I have no idea how the tone of this movie could be so horribly wrong all the time (this heartless Quicksilver scene? seriously? Did anybody checked what the second unit team was actually shooting?) I would really like to know what went wrong during production? Did they run out of time? Conflict with the studio? Couldn't Singer re-write Kingberg's bad script? Was Singer maybe only bound by contract to do this movie and he lost all interest in the series after "Days of Future Past"?

sorry for being so negative, but I have to say seeing this movie broke my heart a little bit...

 

[terry78]

So you think Marvel will ever attempt to snatch this away from Fox?

 

[GuestStar2004]

So you think Marvel will ever attempt to snatch this away from Fox?

And how are they gonna do that?

 

[GuestStar2004]

i notice there is alot of kinberg ruined it, poor bryan singer going on here, if anything bryan was likely fully onboard with the script as we know bryan will make changes to a script if he feels like it, just like he did with DOFP

 

[DavidHaller]

i notice there is alot of kinberg ruined it, poor bryan singer going on here, if anything bryan was likely fully onboard with the script as we know bryan will make changes to a script if he feels like it, just like he did with DOFP

well, there is an obvious resemblances going on between "X-Men: Apocalypse" and the new "Fantastic Four" reboot...and what both movies have in common is the name Kingberg...So I would say he deserves all the hate he gets at the moment!

I don't pity Singer, he is the director and of course responsible for this mess, but "X-Men: Apocalypse" has barely anything from his former signature style. Therefore I am just wonding what happened during production that he could not make it work this time?

 

[iacobusleo]

So you think Marvel will ever attempt to snatch this away from Fox?

One mixed movie does not mean that the entire XCU is a flop. There are so many other X-universe movies in the pipeline.

 

[GuestStar2004]

well, there is an obvious resemblances going on between "X-Men: Apocalypse" and the new "Fantastic Four" reboot...and what both movies have in common is the name Kingberg...

Kinberg and josh trank, or did we forget about josh trank? lol

Now when it comes to Fantastic four we have to remember FOX got involved in a big way also so josh and fox wanted different things so it was always gonna end up a mess

I doubt thats the case with X-Men though, difference is FOX have shown more faith in X-Men then they did f4, they even cut abit of the budget for F4 as filming started

 

[Weather Witch]

i notice there is alot of kinberg ruined it, poor bryan singer going on here, if anything bryan was likely fully onboard with the script as we know bryan will make changes to a script if he feels like it, just like he did with DOFP

I don't think either ruined anything. Some mistakes were made, sure, but it's still a pretty solid movie. Watched the movie for a second time and liked it even more than the first time. All but one of the people who were with me have seen all the movies in the XCU and they all really liked it as well. The other one hadn't seen any of the X-Men movies and also enjoyed it quite a bit.

 

[Raiden]

So you think Marvel will ever attempt to snatch this away from Fox?

Maybe after 50 years, when moviegoers have finally gotten sick and tired of superhero movies and Fox are forced to stop making X-Men movies due to insurmountable losses they suffered. In other words, when superhero movies really became the new Western.

 

[henzINNIT]

thank you! This movie just feels like so much wasted potential.

I have no idea how the tone of this movie could be so horribly wrong all the time (this heartless Quicksilver scene? seriously? Did anybody checked what the second unit team was actually shooting?) I would really like to know what went wrong during production? Did they run out of time? Conflict with the studio? Couldn't Singer re-write Kingberg's bad script? Was Singer maybe only bound by contract to do this movie and he lost all interest in the series after "Days of Future Past"?

sorry for being so negative, but I have to say seeing this movie broke my heart a little bit...

You're not alone. Watching this was a sobering experience. I never thought I'd be wishing Singer left after DOFP in hindsight.

It's impossible to determine exactly what happened behind the scenes, but I feel like Singer strained to up the ante on the action and in doing so lost sight of his strengths with human drama. It didn't work out.

 

[ImSGirl95]

Ok, finally saw the movie.

And the very first scene of the movie is ... a total blast!!! Holy! That was a great and amazing scene! After seeing "Gods of Egypt" recently and though that has to be one of the worst movies I have ever seen, I have to see that one scene in XMA alone is way better than the whole Gods of Egypt movie.

And the Quicksilver scene. WOW! When the mansion start blowing and saw the start of the slow-motion with the bee, I know the show is about the start! t: And it was freaking amazing! It's overtoping the DoFP scene. It's simply that epic!

And finally ... the Wolverine cameo. That is Logan in his full power! On a freaking killing spree! With a classic Weapon X look!

For those three scenes alone I can give the movie a full 10/10. I enjoyed them that much!



But ...
that's about it for me.
Really got excited for Jubilee when she was first announced. But man ... 4 times!! FOUR times the same thing! Nothing!!! She is just an extended background extra. Nothing more. Come on, 1st time - Ok, it's a first time. 2nd time - Ok, not that cool, but 3rd time is a charm I guess. And 3rd time - NOTHING! .. and now 4th time and again .. nothing! Christ ... at least hoping for a big role in New Mutants ... or can just Fox give the Jubilee rights to Marvel lol
And Psylocke ... I was excited for her. But come on, man. "Wow, you have cool sword-y thingies, so I take you." and then like: "Ok, I know this guy with wings, let's take him too." LOL And she didn't have that much lines. I mean, 4 or 5 short lines or something like that. And no badass scenes. Angel was even more wasted.
Storm ... not any different.
Magneto ... Michael Fassbender is just a great actor, so nothing wrong with him. I think his arc was interesting, but it got lost by the end.
Blob ... this is an extra and could be literally anyone, but no ... they say it's Blob, so it's Blob. lol
Mystique ... No comment, man. Just ... no comment.


So yeah.
But I really can ignore all those big flaws, because of those 3 scenes that I pointed out at the beginning.

 

[JC00]

Same with every film. It isn't some sort of shock or surprise, or unique to XM:A.

I saw links to Civil War being posted all over Facebook comments sections.

Just a sad state of the internet that no one wants to pay for anything any more.

TBF Civil War by the time its theatrical run is over will likely be top 10 all-time at the box office.