SR vs X3

SR vs X3

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I really enjoyed Crash,never seen BBM

So it seems this thread has ran it's course,at least X3 got closer to SR than F4 did to BB
 
Dan33977 said:
Oh, please, give me a break! You clearly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the Academy and have just officially entered my territory. I know what the Academy Awards are because my best friend and I follow them every year (starting in September and ending in January), so don't lecture me on what the Academy is, and what is and isn't a good movie. While we're at it, do you even know what the Academy is? Because it certainly isn't what you claimed it to be. The Academy just consists of every person ever nominated for an Academy Award and to think that they're actually paid to vote and decide these things is just absurd.

And I hope you realize that there are also plenty of precursors to the Academy Awards that happen throughout the fall and winter, such as the Golden Globes, the PGA's (Producer's Guild of America), the DGA's (Director's Guild of America), the BAFTA's, the Los Angeles Film Critics Association, and the New York Film Critics Association—all of which awarded BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN Best Picture of 2005, not CRASH. These groups are the ones that consist of the people you speak of, the ones who are paid to decide these kinds of things. Nice try, though, pal...



Wow!

What you said couldn't be more wrong. As I already pointed out above, there are several other groups that judge and award movies and they are no less important than the almighty Academy is; in fact, these groups almost always influence the Academy's decisions, which is why it was so disappointing when BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN lost to such a one-dimensional, meaningless, manipulative piece of **** like CRASH. I mean, it's pathetic that you're actually citing the fact that it won Best Picture last year as evidence of its importance and influence. Who cares? CRASH will be forgotten in 20 years; BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN won't be.



The Academy has made many controversial choices before and awarding CRASH Best Picture of 2005 is certainly one of them. All the guilds usually award the same movie Best Picture every year and the fact that the Academy didn't award BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN is just embarrassing; you could tell even Jack Nicholson was shocked when he announced it last year!

A. You are correct, I do not know everything that I should have before making that claim about what the academy consists of, personally I have many better things to do, then follow them for half a year.

B. Take all the awards out, was my point, if there was no awarding for the best made film of the year, what would be the point? Why wouldn't they just roll with big budget toy movies, because those awards do work like free press for the smaller profile movies. I know I make it too well known on these boards that I work in a movie store, every year after awards season, when those movies start to come out, they always rent extremely well, which I garuntee they wouldn't if not for awards like that.

C. I still do not see how you could possibley say it is embarassing that Crash beat Brokeback, two extremely good movies, I personally think niether was the best, and that Syriana was, but well what do I know
 
I liked both of the movies. I have both DVDs and I would say that IDK I liked them equally! If I would have to say....It would be X-Men: The Last Stand.
 
Am I the only one that thinks it's funny that WB shoe horned the SR dvd in the reeve pack to try and boost it's sales.
 
Considering WB included every Superman movie ever made into that box set, it really isn't surprising - let alone funny - they included SR as well.
 
Having had the chance to watch both on DVD multiple times now, i have to say that i think SR is leaps and bounds ahead of X3 in every area possible.
 
L0ngsh0t said:
You are correct, I do not know everything that I should have before making that claim about what the academy consists of, personally I have many better things to do, then follow them for half a year.

...but you have time to post on an Internet message board regularly? My point is that plenty of people follow Oscar season every year (i.e. people interested in Film); it's their hobby and it's no different than what we do on this message board. In fact, I'd actually say it's more worthwhile and practical.

L0ngsh0t said:
I still do not see how you could possibley say it is embarassing that Crash beat Brokeback, two extremely good movies, I personally think niether was the best, and that Syriana was, but well what do I know

It's embarrassing because, as I said, all the other guilds awarded BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN Best Picture. In reality, the majority of the Academy's members didn't go to Film school and don't have degrees, which is why I always find it funny when someone cites the fact that one of their favorite movies won an Oscar because it really isn't a big deal. People should pay more attention to and hold more value in what the other groups think as they are the ones that know what they're really talking about. In the end, it all comes down to a matter of opinion, though.

By the way, I didn't mean to come off as an ******* in my previous reply...

I might also add that yesterday the NBR (National Board Of Review) announced their winners, which officially starts this year's Oscar season (they always are the first to announce)!
 
Triadkd said:
Am I the only one that thinks it's funny that WB shoe horned the SR dvd in the reeve pack to try and boost it's sales.
Like Ccon :cwink:

And tell me, what do you have to say about the 12,5 millions rentals in one week ? (and i spare you that it is number one in rentals and sales in Canada )

No need to pull a "Pirates did 5 millions " That was a given.

Sr was going to be a disapointement in Dvd , hearing a lot of people .

Well, from the look of things , looks like they were wrong.
 
At the end of the day pirates still whooped supes ass in every medium(even video games). Superman fans have no reason to be proud of anything. There movie scraped by with a 200 milion domestic box office because of IMAX and WB paying off theaters to save face. Ratners X-men may not have been all that but given the past two films and the materials he had to work with I think he did a damn good job. Face it singer had the ideal conditons to make this film and he failed miserably. The sequel will never happen. We will get a restart before a sequel and you can qoute me on that.
 
Triadkd said:
The sequel will never happen. We will get a restart before a sequel and you can qoute me on that.

Happy to oblige:yay:
 
Triadkd said:
The sequel will never happen. We will get a restart before a sequel and you can qoute me on that.

Superman sequel confirmed

Last Thursday, we told you about the folks over at the IESB uncovering the fact that Warner Bros. have struck a deal with Bryan Singer to direct (and likely co-write) a sequel to the surprisingly modest hit (all things considered) SUPERMAN RETURNS. Variety today confirmed the news, stating that Warner Bros. will co-finance the film with Legendary Pictures with a release date tentatively scheduled for summer 2009. Considering how early in the development process the film is, it's understandable that there's neither a script nor budget but Warner Bros. and Legendary will be making sure that the budget stays below 200 million. As of now, it's not known whether SUPERMAN RETURNS co-writers Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris will return to help pen the sequel but it's presumable that they will, as is presumable that all the major players from the original will return including Brandon Routh as the Man of Steel, Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane, Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor and Eva Marie Saint as Martha Kent. And remember, Singer did mention being free to go WRATH OF KAHN in a sequel so those who were disappointed with the first may find something of value in the second. Any thoughts? Title suggestions? How bout SUPERMAN IS TOTALLY HERE NOW!
 
Triadkd said:
At the end of the day pirates still whooped supes ass in every medium(even video games). Superman fans have no reason to be proud of anything. There movie scraped by with a 200 milion domestic box office because of IMAX and WB paying off theaters to save face. Ratners X-men may not have been all that but given the past two films and the materials he had to work with I think he did a damn good job. Face it singer had the ideal conditons to make this film and he failed miserably. The sequel will never happen. We will get a restart before a sequel and you can qoute me on that.
Thanks Worthy :cwink:

i got also that for you triad:

Originally posted by Ita-KalEl (Blue tights)
13 million!
It's an amazing result, expecially comparing it to Batman Begins ($11,360,000), The Fantastic Four ($9,690,000) and X3 ($10,480,000).

Nothing to be proud eh?
 
Dan33977 said:
...but you have time to post on an Internet message board regularly? My point is that plenty of people follow Oscar season every year (i.e. people interested in Film); it's their hobby and it's no different than what we do on this message board. In fact, I'd actually say it's more worthwhile and practical.

I use these boards as an escape from homework day and nightly, it keeps me on my computer so I can be like "Oh ****, thats what I was doing." I do follow though the hyped movies, like for instance I did indeed watch that dreadful All the Kings Men, which I am glad that was dismissed early. This weekend I will be watching the Blood Diamond (hopefully tonight actually if I can get my homework done for the midnight showing), Children of Men, and Pursuit of Happiness are two other movies I am really looking forward to. Point is I generally agree with what the Academy does, or at least the idea, I normally agree that the nominations are 4 of the best movies of the year etc. I may not always agree with the winner (Or in last years case, I am not sure if Syriana was nominated) but I normally can find the validity in why they where picked.


Dan33977 said:
It's embarrassing because, as I said, all the other guilds awarded BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN Best Picture. In reality, the majority of the Academy's members didn't go to Film school and don't have degrees, which is why I always find it funny when someone cites the fact that one of their favorite movies won an Oscar because it really isn't a big deal. People should pay more attention to and hold more value in what the other groups think as they are the ones that know what they're really talking about. In the end, it all comes down to a matter of opinion, though.

I am aware that most people consider it a monumental upset, but I think why I cite the Academy though is, that is the one everyone wants. All these other awards are nice, but the Oscar is what everyone wants, so if I think Crash is a great movie (not the best), and you are arguing it isn't, and I say well it won the Oscar, and you say "well they aren't even that big a deal" I could say someting like, "Tell that to Scorcesse" (who hopefully after this year will finally win Best Director), or I could say "If it is not so important, why is it the one everyone wants, I could probably give you like 3 golden globe winners ever, off the top of my head, but if you just gave me a date, there is probably a 75 percent chance I could tell you who won what award that year in the Academy.


Dan33977 said:
By the way, I didn't mean to come off as an ******* in my previous reply...

I wouldn't nessecarly say that, lets go with unessicarily arrogant. But hey you knew what you where talking about


Dan33977 said:
I might also add that yesterday the NBR (National Board Of Review) announced their winners, which officially starts this year's Oscar season (they always are the first to announce)!

Now I agree NBR is the big dogs.

So question, did they nominate this years, or announcing last years winners, or what?
 
Maze said:
Like Ccon :cwink:

And tell me, what do you have to say about the 12,5 millions rentals in one week ? (and i spare you that it is number one in rentals and sales in Canada )

No need to pull a "Pirates did 5 millions " That was a given.

Sr was going to be a disapointement in Dvd , hearing a lot of people .

Well, from the look of things , looks like they were wrong.

I work in a video store (as if I don't let it be known enough) Superman is actually (currently I know we haven't hit the weekend yet), but superman is out renting Pirates in the first couple days, I asked a couple people yesterday, and the most common respose was they didn't want to buy Superman, but wanted to watch it. And they have already bought Pirates, or plan on buying it and didn't need to rent it
 
L0ngsh0t said:
I work in a video store (as if I don't let it be known enough) Superman is actually (currently I know we haven't hit the weekend yet), but superman is out renting Pirates in the first couple days, I asked a couple people yesterday, and the most common respose was they didn't want to buy Superman, but wanted to watch it. And they have already bought Pirates, or plan on buying it and didn't need to rent it
Thanks for the information .

but considering that SR was able to beat Ice Age 2 which has been selling like hotcakes,it means that it must have sold well.

we'll see soon Anyways .
 
Yeah worthy that proves alot. Indian Jones 4 has been announced for nearly a decade and I dont see that one happening anytime soon. And correct if im wrong but didnt B&R,DD,and Hulk have announced sequels.
 
Triadkd said:
Yeah worthy that proves alot. Indian Jones 4 has been announced for nearly a decade and I dont see that one happening anytime soon. And correct if im wrong but didnt B&R,DD,and Hulk have announced sequels.
BB followed B&R, Elektra followed DD, and The Incredible Hulk will follow Hulk.

Not to mention, there's a rather large difference with those projects and SR; SR has a director signed. Singer. And a number of the cast and crew have openly stated they'll be a 2009 release for the film. If WB were at all hesitant about the film (like, say, Universal was about Hulk's sequel) they never would've signed Singer, and they never would let the cast parade around announcing it all to the public.
 
Triadkd said:
Yeah worthy that proves alot. Indian Jones 4 has been announced for nearly a decade and I dont see that one happening anytime soon. And correct if im wrong but didnt B&R,DD,and Hulk have announced sequels.

Uh, yeah, it does actually.
 
Triadkd said:
Yeah worthy that proves alot. Indian Jones 4 has been announced for nearly a decade and I dont see that one happening anytime soon. And correct if im wrong but didnt B&R,DD,and Hulk have announced sequels.
Lucas blocks Indianna Jones Production.

A DD sequel did not have an annoucement : it was merely a wish ..

B@R ditto.

Hulk has been officially announced and is in production.

The Superman, sequel has been officially announced, has a director signed ,and some of the cast are under contract.
 
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