The Super saiya-jin 2
- Feb 21, 2006
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Some guys just keep saying that ssj4 goku is more powerfull,but I think ssj3 is more powerfull then ssj4.I think ssj1 is stronger then ssj4,what do you guys think?
Harlekin said:That would be highly illogical, since then there would be no need for Vegeta to turn SSJ4.
Well, we are comparing the two aren't we. If SSJ1 was actually stronger than SSJ4, than there would be no need for Vegeta in GT to assume the SSJ4 form. Neither would Gokuu require it either.buutenks said:But that is gt not z.ssj4 Goku's blasts in gt were weaker then those in the sayan saga.
My vengeance said:I think Buutenks is confused by the fact that the feats of SSj 4 Gokou do not seem as impressive as they should.Take for example the time he blew up with Super Juunanagou.The explosion wasn't nearly as impressive as VEGETA SSJ 2 blowing himself up in order to dispose of Buu.It's logical that he should be stronger in the SSj 4 stage,but the creators just screwed it up.
sexysoccerstud8 said:the difference between ssj4 and ssj3 is huge.........for example who is the strongest person goku fought as an ssj3? majin buu......weakest person ssj4 goku beat was bebi as the giant ape ok now compare the two....who is stronger? buu or the monkey bebi?
buutenks said:Some guys just keep saying that ssj4 goku is more powerfull,but I think ssj3 is more powerfull then ssj4.I think ssj1 is stronger then ssj4,what do you guys think?
ChineseFooD said:None of you understood what the kid was saying. When Goku went super sayajin for the first time he was surging with energy and was lava proof and stuff. Yet as SSJ4 he was weak against the fire dragon.
When Goku went ssj3, he rattled the planet and was practically breaking reality. His blasts did LOTS of damage. Yet as SSJ4, his blasts did very little.
He's not saying that SSJ4 actually IS weaker, he's saying that the creators made him seem that way. His bits of stregnth were weaker looking in GT than his feats in DBZ.
Not that it matters, GT is not even real. They just wanted money so they milked the show(Z) by making a new series(GT). I bet you that if Akira ever wanted to bring back the series, he'd completely ignore GT.
Also Goku did less fighting in GT than he did in Z. Like DBZ is notorious for episodes full of talking and grunting instead of actual fighting, but when they DID fight, it was insane. In GT, most of the fight scenes were rather redundant or stale. Sure, a few may have been cool, but the series was horrid. Goku was portrayed horribly. The reason I'm mentioning that is because, that's probably why Goku appeared weaker.
By the way, it's not a giant monkey, it's called an oozaru..Regardless, Kaio-ken goku did a better fight against oozaru vegeta, than ssj4 goku did against beibi
O MY FREAKING GOD!sexysoccerstud8 said:actually no goku did better ssj4 then kaio ken.....remember kaio ken goku did lil damage to vegeta. while ssj4 goku pretty much owned bebi vegeta monkey form, and yes i kno that giant ape is actually oozaru i jus refer to it as a giant monkey cuz thats wut it is.
SSJ4_Mikael said:SSJ = 3x power
SSJ2 = 3^2 = 9x power
SSJ3 = 3^3 = 27x power
(Of course the stats are lower, since Gokou couldent go SSJ4 in the begining of Babidi saga)
Lets put it this way:sexysoccerstud8 said:ok so lets all agree that ssj4 is actually more powerful...jus b/c it doesnt seem as impressive as some of the other lvls doesnt mean it isnt stronger like the point proven b4 if ssj4 was weaker there would b no need 4 it. yes ssj3 is extremely powerful and 4 all we kno it could maybe go toe 2 toe wit an ssj4 at the beginning but eventually the ssj3 would shut down b/c of the physical weardown