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Stan The Man Lee' s opinion about Hulk vs Superman

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From Hulk Movie Board:

In Electronic Gaming Monthly magazine Oct 2006 issues, Stan Lee was asked his opinion about Hulk vs Superman and this is what he wrote, "If I wrote the story, I guarantee the Hulk would win. The way I established the Hulk, the more he fought, the stronger he got. And Superman has a certain amount of strength and thats it. I assume at some point he'll get worn out, but never the Hulk."
 
It's only fair, If i was a writer and someone would ask me who would win: My creation and one of my companies flag-ship characters or a rival companies flag-ship, You would of course say your own. Because you are a little bit biased (only natural).
 
DevilHulk said:
From Hulk Movie Board:

In Electronic Gaming Monthly magazine Oct 2006 issues, Stan Lee was asked his opinion about Hulk vs Superman and this is what he wrote, "If I wrote the story, I guarantee the Hulk would win. The way I established the Hulk, the more he fought, the stronger he got. And Superman has a certain amount of strength and thats it. I assume at some point he'll get worn out, but never the Hulk."

'nuff said!
 
DevilHulk said:
From Hulk Movie Board:

In Electronic Gaming Monthly magazine Oct 2006 issues, Stan Lee was asked his opinion about Hulk vs Superman and this is what he wrote, "If I wrote the story, I guarantee the Hulk would win. The way I established the Hulk, the more he fought, the stronger he got. And Superman has a certain amount of strength and thats it. I assume at some point he'll get worn out, but never the Hulk."

haha Nice :up:
 
the most important part of that sentence would be 'If I Wrote the story...'

that's a hypothetical response, it has nothing based on past history, battle ground, feats etc.


everyone can give a hyptothetical outcome, it really doesnt mean anything.
 
Its a hypothetical response, because its a hypothetical question, duh!
 
DevilHulk said:
From Hulk Movie Board:

In Electronic Gaming Monthly magazine Oct 2006 issues, Stan Lee was asked his opinion about Hulk vs Superman and this is what he wrote, "If I wrote the story, I guarantee the Hulk would win. The way I established the Hulk, the more he fought, the stronger he got. And Superman has a certain amount of strength and thats it. I assume at some point he'll get worn out, but never the Hulk."

Can't say I am the least bit surprised.

Now if Stan would have said Superman would pwned that ass, that would be considered something of a surprise.
 
^*spits out coffee on computer screen* Unlikely!
Aww, look what you made me do.
 
XwolverineX said:
Speed > Strength.. Always. Flash could beat Hulk, hands down.

Flash got pasted by the original Starfire, who is nowhere NEAR as strong or tough as the Hulk.
 
these arguments are pretty lame, but imo supes could just toss hulk into space

his strength won't help him fly back to earth
 
XwolverineX said:
Speed > Strength.. Always. Flash could beat Hulk, hands down.

LMFAO! That was the most hillarious thing I've read here in a while!
For what happens when a fast guy meets the hulk, you need to read what if hulk killed wolverine, where quicksilver meets a quite nasty end ;)


But AFAIK, there have been three hulk/superman fights. first supes won in marvel vs dc, then one where supes doesnt want to fight and stands still becoming harder, but like stan says, hulk gets madder and madder and almost gets through to supes before supes calms him, and one where hulk and superman meet up and fight (in the superman vs hulk one shot) and hulk had the advantage before its broken up)
 
Given that its a fictional character and his creator is saying that he can beat superman one could argue that its true simply because his creator has said it.

Going on examples in comics I would disagree myself but hey ho.
 
Darthphere said:
Its a hypothetical response, because its a hypothetical question, duh!
well not really that hypothetical since they have themselves fought in the past.

it's not like it couldn't ever happen...

true it may all be fictional but that doesn't make it any less of a decent question.
 
Stan also said that the X-Men would man-handle the JLA in that same article so don't listen to the old whacko, he's going senile.
 
XwolverineX said:
Speed > Strength.. Always. Flash could beat Hulk, hands down.

Ummm, if I punched a brick wall a million times in one second, I would have 2 broken hands and one brick wall.

Really bad logic.
 
As Stan the Man said, "If I wrote the story, I guarantee the Hulk would win."

Seems like a guarentee.
 
Doc Destruction said:
Ummm, if I punched a brick wall a million times in one second, I would have 2 broken hands and one brick wall.

Really bad logic.

You're forgetting that force is nothing more than mass times speed. If Flash punches fast enough, he's capable of hitting as hard as Superman, Wonder woman or Martian Manhunter.

Flash is pretty well protected against anything he does if he's doing it under the context of speed, so not only could he take out a brick wall, he could tear apart titanium doors and come out unscathed.
 
Doc Destruction said:
Ummm, if I punched a brick wall a million times in one second, I would have 2 broken hands and one brick wall.

Really bad logic.

Urm... no.

If you punched a wall while your hand was going at a huge speed your hand would have a huge mass and there would be a big hole in the wall. Do that a lot of times in a second and no wall.
 
DevilHulk said:
From Hulk Movie Board:

In Electronic Gaming Monthly magazine Oct 2006 issues, Stan Lee was asked his opinion about Hulk vs Superman and this is what he wrote, "If I wrote the story, I guarantee the Hulk would win. The way I established the Hulk, the more he fought, the stronger he got. And Superman has a certain amount of strength and thats it. I assume at some point he'll get worn out, but never the Hulk."

So if Stan Lee wrote the story, the Hulk would win. OTOH, if e.g. Joe Casey wrote the story, then Superman would win:

Wikipedia said:
In an interview with Joe Casey on Alvaro's ComicBoards, he states that Superman can re-arrange the Solar System and tear a star apart. "I've always seen Superman as this completely over-the-top, fantastic character who has no limits whatsoever," writes Casey. Unencumbered by mental blocks, "Superman is unbeatable."

Similarly, I think the majority of writers would favor Superman over Hulk. Stan Lee alone cannot settle this dispute.

If *I* wrote the story, Superman would beat the Hulk 10/10...
 
War Lord said:
You're forgetting that force is nothing more than mass times speed. If Flash punches fast enough, he's capable of hitting as hard as Superman, Wonder woman or Martian Manhunter.

The thing of that is, he's still built out of our ordinary earth-man bones and muscles. So I'd imagine all that force would be shattering his hands a lot quicker than it'd be shattering all those bricks.

I'll grant as this gets a bit hinky once you throw in the Speed Force as an x-factor, but it's not like the Flash has made a habit of throwing hyperspeed punches at invincible beings (there was like the one time against the martian I guess, but that was the one time at near-lightspeed when the other guy had his own momentum), so I don't know we can take for granted the prophylactic effects of the Force in this particular case.

But as far as this goes --

yenaled said:
If you punched a wall while your hand was going at a huge speed your hand would have a huge mass and there would be a big hole in the wall. Do that a lot of times in a second and no wall.

-- I'm just saying, your personal, non-speed-forced hand would burst into flames from air friction or tear itself apart from sheer applied stress long before it ever managed to even touch that wall.
 
Didn't Hulk get beat buy freaking Batman useing sleeping gas some years back?
 
fifthfiend said:
The thing of that is, he's still built out of our ordinary earth-man bones and muscles. So I'd imagine all that force would be shattering his hands a lot quicker than it'd be shattering all those bricks.

I'll grant as this gets a bit hinky once you throw in the Speed Force as an x-factor, but it's not like the Flash has made a habit of throwing hyperspeed punches at invincible beings (there was like the one time against the martian I guess, but that was the one time at near-lightspeed when the other guy had his own momentum), so I don't know we can take for granted the prophylactic effects of the Force in this particular case.

Again, he's protected against the forces that his speed creates. As long as what he's doing is done within the context of speed, he's as invulnerable as Superman, but in his own unique way.

If he wasn't protected, the fact that he runs as fast as he does would ensure that he'd be a puddle everytime he ran faster than 50 mph.
 
yenaled said:
Urm... no.

If you punched a wall while your hand was going at a huge speed your hand would have a huge mass and there would be a big hole in the wall. Do that a lot of times in a second and no wall.

In Special Relativity, mass is nowadays considered to be invariant (equivalent to the old concept of "rest mass"). It is the energy and linear momentum that do not behave "classically". Anyway, if you punch a wall at relativistic speeds then as your hand exerts a huge force on the wall the wall exerts an equal but opposite force on your hand (Newton's 3rd). OUCHie.
 

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