Stan The Man Lee' s opinion about Hulk vs Superman

[fifthfiend]

Again, he's protected against the forces that his speed creates. As long as what he's doing is done within the context of speed, he's as invulnerable as Superman, but in his own unique way.

If he wasn't protected, the fact that he runs as fast as he does would ensure that he'd be a puddle everytime he ran faster than 50 mph.

I know he's protected to some degree, I just don't know that it equates to total invincibility, exactly. I mean the simple fact that we generally don't see him ripping through titanium, punching out Darkseid and the like would seem to argue against this.

I mean obviously the real reason we don't see him punching out Darkseid is that'd leave Superman pretty quickly out of a job, but there's got to be some kind of explanation for it on the in-continuity level.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Urm... no.

If you punched a wall while your hand was going at a huge speed your hand would have a huge mass and there would be a big hole in the wall. Do that a lot of times in a second and no wall.

That's simplifying things a bit.

If you rode a magnetic train and at the last second sprung forward from it into a tree, take a wild guess who would lose that fight.

 

[Darthphere]

Stan Lee created Superman, true story.

 

[Tropico]

And the point of this thread is......?:confuse: That the writer/creator of a character puts him above a rival company's character? And to restart a dumb thread that has been rehashed so many times I've lost count (*insert character here* vs. Hulk)? Pathetic.

 

[War Lord]

I know he's protected to some degree, I just don't know that it equates to total invincibility, exactly. I mean the simple fact that we generally don't see him ripping through titanium, punching out Darkseid and the like would seem to argue against this.

I mean obviously the real reason we don't see him punching out Darkseid is that'd leave Superman pretty quickly out of a job, but there's got to be some kind of explanation for it on the in-continuity level.

I don't think the problem is not punching out Darkseid, but what would happen if Darkseid managed to grab him. Flash wouldn't be injured from punching Darkseid, but Flash wouldn't be invulnerable to a grab from Darkseid or invulnerable to those omega beams.

I have seen issues where Flash has knocked down steel doors and so it should be any different in principle with titanium doors, other than the fact that it would require more hits.

 

[Zeu]

If "I" wrote the story, Hulk would be cooking at the center of the sun.

 

[LadyMoira]

I can understand Stan being prejudiced in favor of his own company's creation but still any sane person has to give this one to CK though it would be a heckuva fight...in fact I remember it was a heckuva fight in DV vs. Marvel where I believe we settled the issue once and for all.

 

[KingOfDreams]

This doesn't prove anything. Of course Stan will side with his own creation. And I'm not saying Hulk wouldn't win but Superman does have a variety of powers while Hulk only has his amazing strength.

 

[Horrorfan]

I can understand Stan being prejudiced in favor of his own company's creation but still any sane person has to give this one to CK though it would be a heckuva fight...in fact I remember it was a heckuva fight in DV vs. Marvel where I believe we settled the issue once and for all.

As I stated, they have fought 3 times. One was a stalemate, one superman won, and the other hulk had the advantage in before it was broken up.


And yeah Batman beat hulk with that tactic, but later on Hulk beat batman after he tried using the gas again and failed, and all batman could do was hide untill hulk left the area.

 

[Caliber]

I can understand Stan being prejudiced in favor of his own company's creation but still any sane person has to give this one to CK though it would be a heckuva fight...in fact I remember it was a heckuva fight in DV vs. Marvel where I believe we settled the issue once and for all.

If Lobo can beat Supes then Hulk has a shot at beating the alien sob.

 

[LadyMoira]

If Lobo can beat Supes then Hulk has a shot at beating the alien sob.

True but I always considered Lobo's victory to be bad writing.

 

[Caliber]

True but I always considered Lobo's victory to be bad writing.

Really I would say that bad wirting is the only way Superman is.

 

[Badfish40oz]

If *I* wrote the story, Superman would beat the Hulk 10/10...

You didn't create one of the characters. You aren't the most famous comic book creator in history. Stan Lee's opinion on this means ten times as much as anyone's opinion on this board. It's not like the guy hates Superman or anything either.

I've always said, Hulk would eventually outlast Superman. Superman COULD beat Hulk, but most of the time Hulk would just wear him out. It would be Doomsday X 2. Where Doomsday dropped dead at the end of that fight, Hulk would get back up again . . and about 20 minutes later he'd be good as new.

 

[War Lord]

You didn't create one of the characters. You aren't the most famous comic book creator in history. Stan Lee's opinion on this means ten times as much as anyone's opinion on this board. It's not like the guy hates Superman or anything either.

I've always said, Hulk would eventually outlast Superman. Superman COULD beat Hulk, but most of the time Hulk would just wear him out. It would be Doomsday X 2. Where Doomsday dropped dead at the end of that fight, Hulk would get back up again . . and about 20 minutes later he'd be good as new.

Superman isn't stupid. He's been known in the past to take care of business and if Hulk is proven dangerous, ala Doomsday, he wouldn't let Hulk get the chance to build up.

 

[LadyMoira]

You didn't create one of the characters. You aren't the most famous comic book creator in history. Stan Lee's opinion on this means ten times as much as anyone's opinion on this board. It's not like the guy hates Superman or anything either.

No as a comic geek himself Stan probably admires Superman but still Hulk is one of Stan's most popular creations and so Stan cannot help but be a little prejudiced in his favor the same way every father always insists his little girl's the cutest.

I've always said, Hulk would eventually outlast Superman. Superman COULD beat Hulk, but most of the time Hulk would just wear him out. It would be Doomsday X 2. Where Doomsday dropped dead at the end of that fight, Hulk would get back up again . . and about 20 minutes later he'd be good as new.

Hulk might well be able to outlast Superman but I just feel like Superman could get the upper hand just long enough to throw Hulk into the path of a supernova or something thus eliminating his problem.

 

[Caliber]

No as a comic geek himself Stan probably admires Superman but still Hulk is one of Stan's most popular creations and so Stan cannot help but be a little prejudiced in his favor the same way every father always insists his little girl's the cutest.



Hulk might well be able to outlast Superman but I just feel like Superman could get the upper hand just long enough to throw Hulk into the path of a supernova or something thus eliminating his problem.

Yes but if Supes only had fewer powers, it would be a fair fight.

 

[herakles]

double post

 

[herakles]

You didn't create one of the characters. You aren't the most famous comic book creator in history. Stan Lee's opinion on this means ten times as much as anyone's opinion on this board. It's not like the guy hates Superman or anything either.

I've always said, Hulk would eventually outlast Superman. Superman COULD beat Hulk, but most of the time Hulk would just wear him out. It would be Doomsday X 2. Where Doomsday dropped dead at the end of that fight, Hulk would get back up again . . and about 20 minutes later he'd be good as new.

Your right as long Superman doesn't KO him first! you can NOT get madder/stronger if your unconcious!

 

[Zeu]

Superman doesn´t need to "outlast" Hulk.

Ironman has K.O.ed Hulk once, with a single punch.

That´s pretty much all Superman has to do.

Punch him once really hard and knock his pants off, instead of throwing a series of sissy punches, waiting for Hulk´s anger to escalate.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Since Superman doesn't tire there is no way to wear him out.

 

[War Lord]

Since Superman doesn't tire there is no way to wear him out.

Actually he can tire out. He's a solar battery and it is possible to drain that battery if he's pushed hard enough.

 

[Ockham]

You didn't create one of the characters. You aren't the most famous comic book creator in history. Stan Lee's opinion on this means ten times as much as anyone's opinion on this board. It's not like the guy hates Superman or anything either.

I stated my opinion, yes, but it was not the point. The point was that I provided a quote from a Superman writer who said that Superman is undefeatable and doesn't have any limits at all when he really puts his mind into something. Superman-writer's opinion of Superman is just as valid as Hulk-writer's opinion of the Hulk.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

If that were true then he would not have enough energy to use his powers at all since there is not enough energy in sunlight at the earths surface to power him at all.

 

[celldog]

Superman flies the hulk into deep space where he dies of lack of oxygen.

But since he won't do that, Hulk wins.

 

[Kitsune]

I can understand Stan being prejudiced in favor of his own company's creation but still any sane person has to give this one to CK though it would be a heckuva fight...in fact I remember it was a heckuva fight in DV vs. Marvel where I believe we settled the issue once and for all.

If we go with Marvel Vs. DC then Wolverine can beat Superman. Lobo beat Superman, and Wolverine beat Lobo.