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We need to see the Gorn dammit. You can just expand on that whole race. How damn fierce would they be?

Maybe the film can open up with Kirk captured by the Gorn and the crew break him out and save him. How awesome would that be? If done right, it can be one of the coolest opening scenes ever.




That would be cool.....
 
I'd love to get a look at Nurse Chapel and see Kirk flirt it up with Carol Marcus on shore leave. Speaking of which, who else REALLY wants to see Karl Urban interact with Alice and the White Rabbit?

LOL

I wanna see Janice Rand rocking that basketweave hairdo all over the Enterprise :oldrazz:
 
Why don't the writers focus on pleasing the non-fans of the OS/Generations? I wasn't lost watching ST, and I'd like the sequels to keep it that way.
 
Idk if anyone else has mentioned this but maybe they should incorporate Picard into the next one??? Or maybe Janeway?? i was thinking that maybe one of those characters sends messages from the future into the past for kirk warning him of a species that would end up wiping out earth with technologically advanced weapons and what not (if Janewat its species 8472) and that they will secretly set up a base in the alpha quadrant not just the delta. And that in time theyll become more and more powerful and that theyll wipe out earth and other races.

I read that that could possibly happen somewhere.

Any clues if this is a good idea??

I have my doubts but i loved next generations and voyager
 
No time travel in anyway in the next film :o

This is about the original crew now. We can recast the Next Gen gang in like...10 years or something.
 
I think it might be easier to swing Nurse Chapel as Spock and Uhura's love triangle, though i'd slant it and make it development for Uhura rather than Spock, as triangle's typically go.

I'd like to see Rand as a love interest for Kirk. I'd update her the most. She, enlisted, would have the civilian flavor, not having been in Starfleet academy, only having gone to "boot camp" and be utterly hard to get for the otherwise lothariotic Captain.

I do like the idea of starting the movie with action, though. Not sure about the Gorn. I'm a bit weary of lizardmen from space. GalaxyQuest and Star Trek: Enterprise come to mind most immediately.
 
They should utilize the Rura Penthe designs and set that were used (but not featured) in the first film for the opening scene of the second film. It would be really cool to see the whole crew working together on this elaborate prison break scene and it would also be a really cool way to introduce the Klingons into the Abramsverse. I'm not sure who it is that they would be springing out of jail, maybe it's the character that slowly becomes the villain in the new film. Thoughts?
 
We need to see the Gorn dammit. You can just expand on that whole race. How damn fierce would they be?

Maybe the film can open up with Kirk captured by the Gorn and the crew break him out and save him. How awesome would that be? If done right, it can be one of the coolest opening scenes ever.

Meh...the Gorn doesn't interest me. Lizard people feel a little boring...maybe it's all the b sci-fi i've seen. haha

Cardassians all the way!! they are brutish, devious, intelligent, manipulative and down right sinister. the prefect villain.
 
The don't need to look exacly like lizards. They can have their own way about them, they look reptilian but it's hard to place what they are exactly.

Just Kirk being in a Gorn jail and then being sprung out with no reason seems like a cool way to kick the sequel off. We don't know why he's there, but he's Kirk and we can only assume he got into ****. Great way to introduce the characters again as well.

The Gorn prison is dirty and cruel. The last place we want to be. Remember that prison in POTC DMC where Sparrow comes from in the beginning? Think of something like that but with a furturistic twist. Think of Kirk with some facial hair just being there for so many days, he's in a dark room, strapped to a chair, and this is how he's introduced. He can smart mouth the Gorn and they beat the **** out of him, and he gets into the light, tada, it's Kirk but with more hair!

Gets back on the ship, action scene ends, emerges cleanly shaved and gets into the captain's chair. There you go.
 
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Klingons are a must.

No to Khan. At least not yet. Besides...they already mentioned the Klingons in the first movie with dread in their tone...as if they are currently at war with them or about to be.

I'm thinking that the federation dodged the bullet on that one. Thanks to Nero and his destruction of 47 Klingon cruisers,... the "Klingon/Romulan War" kicks off 100 years early.
 
I'm thinking that the federation dodged the bullet on that one. Thanks to Nero and his destruction of 47 Klingon cruisers,... the "Klingon/Romulan War" kicks off 100 years early.

What was ever given as the reasoning for this battle? The battle happened at a time before the Romulans started the war with the Klingons and in Nero's time the Klingons were actually allied with the Romulans after the fall of the Dominion so neither party would have a reason to attack one another. :huh:
 
What was ever given as the reasoning for this battle? The battle happened at a time before the Romulans started the war with the Klingons and in Nero's time the Klingons were actually allied with the Romulans after the fall of the Dominion so neither party would have a reason to attack one another. :huh:

Well,... Nero had a bad habit of attacking ANY SHIP that he came across. When his calculations stated that spock may appear from the event horizon of that black hole in Klingon Space,... Nero probably detroyed them because they were between him and where he wanted to go.

V.
 
What was ever given as the reasoning for this battle? The battle happened at a time before the Romulans started the war with the Klingons and in Nero's time the Klingons were actually allied with the Romulans after the fall of the Dominion so neither party would have a reason to attack one another. :huh:
Here is one reason:
In the prequel comics, Nero and crew were captured by the Klingons and held for the 25 years...they escaped when it was time for Spock Prime to return and destroyed a Klingon fleet.

But since you can't really go by what was in a comic that few people saw as to reasons for an event in the movie.....here is another possible reason.

At the time that Nero and crew arrived in the past, they knew there was hostilities between their respective planets. They hid out along the Neutral Zone for 25 years, staying away from everyone. At the time of Spock Primes estimated arrival, they left their hiding place to go capture him....but encountered a Klingon fleet for some reason....and fought their way through them to get at Spock.
 
Here is one reason:
In the prequel comics, Nero and crew were captured by the Klingons and held for the 25 years...they escaped when it was time for Spock Prime to return and destroyed a Klingon fleet.

But since you can't really go by what was in a comic that few people saw as to reasons for an event in the movie.....here is another possible reason.

At the time that Nero and crew arrived in the past, they knew there was hostilities between their respective planets. They hid out along the Neutral Zone for 25 years, staying away from everyone. At the time of Spock Primes estimated arrival, they left their hiding place to go capture him....but encountered a Klingon fleet for some reason....and fought their way through them to get at Spock.


I don't remember that being in the comics.

I thought his capture by the Klingons were deleted scenes.
 
I find it completely fascinating how Kirk is so different from the original series Kirk but ending up in the same place.

TOS Kirk grew up rather bookish and a bit of an introvert. When he came to the Enterprise, he was definitely a strict military man. His sense of humour started to come out in Mudd's Women. In fact, I think that was his first love interest in the series. He really was NOT a ladies man before becoming Captain of the Enterprise and not much of that shoot-from-the-hip cowboy when it came to problem-solving until then. That came later as he started to evolve as a character but it wasn't who he was growing up. We know this from episodes like Shore Leave where the Finagan character picks away at him like the plebe he remembers him as. Kirk was a bit of a nerd from what we can gather.
...and we can attribute this to the fact that he grew up with a whole, loving family that included his father as an influence. Probably taught him to study hard and work toward goals.

The new Kirk, on the other hand, was aimless, restless, and you get the impression that he was chasing hedonistic activities to fill the void in his life from not having that calmining, strong influence of his father. He's in essence a boy in a man's body. It's only when he takes on the responsibility of the Enterprise that he begins to grow and become that Kirk that he's destined to become.

Eventually, they both become (or will become - I'm assuming) similar men with heroic legacies. I see this new Kirk becoming much like his predecessor as he matures.
 
Here is one reason:
In the prequel comics, Nero and crew were captured by the Klingons and held for the 25 years...they escaped when it was time for Spock Prime to return and destroyed a Klingon fleet.

But since you can't really go by what was in a comic that few people saw as to reasons for an event in the movie.....here is another possible reason.

At the time that Nero and crew arrived in the past, they knew there was hostilities between their respective planets. They hid out along the Neutral Zone for 25 years, staying away from everyone. At the time of Spock Primes estimated arrival, they left their hiding place to go capture him....but encountered a Klingon fleet for some reason....and fought their way through them to get at Spock.

The real reason for Nero's battle with the Klingons was because after he arrived in the past and the Kelvin disabled the Narada by ramming it, he was captured by the Klingons and put on Rura Penthe, who knows what happened to his ship. After 25 years, they broke out and got back to their ship, destroying 47 Klingon ship son the way to Vulcan.
 
Ah! I didn't realize that the ship had been disabled! I thought they had just been cruising around for 25 years biding time. That makes an immense amount of sense.

I've never seen this word before in my life.

And you never will again. :word:
 
Ah! I didn't realize that the ship had been disabled! I thought they had just been cruising around for 25 years biding time. That makes an immense amount of sense.

Yeah, the only question is what happened to the Narada for 25 years. The Klingons would have dissected the ship or destroyed it after capturing a psychotic Nero. I really wish they would have explained what happened to it, since the only thing I can think of is that Nero set it to autopilot or something before being captured, sending it to some desolate moon or something before activating a homing signal that brought the ship back to Rura Penthe to beam them up.
 
I don't remember that being in the comics.

I thought his capture by the Klingons were deleted scenes.

That's possible....I just remember hearing from someone that he was captured by the Klingons....and he hadn't heard that.
 
It wasn't in the prequel comics. Nero and his crew captured by Klingons for 25 years was a deleted segment of the film. Abrams and crew didn't want so much focus to be on Nero since this was the origin of the original crew (that interview is somewhere online where this is said). A cool thing is when Spock mind melds with Kirk, you briefly see a close-up of of an angry Nero and behind him are Romulans with shovels doing work.

And of course, in the TV spots, you see an even bigger close-up of this and in the teaser trailer, you see Nero break free from two armored Klingon guards. Some believe Nero's right ear being cut happened when the Kelvin hit the Narada, but I'm willing to bet that it originally happened at Rura Punthe.

Here is the Nero close-up I was talking about (:05 - :06):

 
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I'm thinking that the federation dodged the bullet on that one. Thanks to Nero and his destruction of 47 Klingon cruisers,... the "Klingon/Romulan War" kicks off 100 years early.

I'd be ok with that as a plot line. I want to see that the change in timeline actually has some big implications for the history of the alternate dimension.
 
Klingon/Romulan war for the sequel? I'd be all for that :up:
 
I'm all for a emotionally radical Vulcan movement of violence which produces pockets of insurgency on planets where their species is a minority. Many Vulcans, including Spock, could be called to question whether the old ways are worth preserving now that their homeworld and old culture is limited and no longer exists anywhere nears its original size. Even the Federation could become involved in what could become a larger conflict if Vulcan radicals are using their starships for transportation to supply terrorism or other ways of civil unrest, on planets such as Romulus or if more Vulcans began adapting to other cultures and abandoning their heritage. Perhaps some of the Vulcan elders become frustrated or angry with the lack of potential action being done by the Federation in order to restore the Vulcan population.

A nice political incident could be nice between various Vulcan survivors, Romulans, and the Federation. Perhaps racism between Romulans and Vulcans could lead to one seeking to commit genocide in order to eliminate one another and prove one culture is dominate over the other, and possibly involve an impending threat of war with Star Fleet if it Romulan aggression is provoked in order to defend their vessels.
 
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