Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe

[Superfreak]

IDK about teyla being right for the Atlantis leadership. I guess as she was the leader of her people then she has the knowledge... but would Earth put a non-Tau'ri in charge of their only outpost?

I like the idea a lot actually. I think it's a wasted opportunity. Rachel is great(among the better actors in the series I think). But the character already has the built in leadership qualities. But her point of view would be more sympathetic to the people of the pegasus galaxy... and the fact that Sheppard and the expidition are singularly responsible for both the current Wraith cul... as well as the replicator onslaught. Teyla vs. the IOA, Teyla vs. the military element. And she's a very peaceful character... yet, she still likes to lay a beating every now and then. I think she'd be a great leader of atlantis. It would be especially interesting to see her deal with all the underlings.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It'd kind of kill what little realism is left to the show, though. The IOA and/or the US military appoints leaders to Stargate projects, and neither of them would ever endorse an alien as a leader. I doubt even Teal'c could command Atlantis because of that, let alone an alien the IOA and the US military have virtually no direct experience with.

I am probably the only perosn who likes the fact Keller is still going to be around... But only five episodes for Carson?

I love Keller. I look forward to more awkward romance between her and Ronon.

 

[Superfreak]

It'd kind of kill what little realism is left to the show, though. The IOA and/or the US military appoints leaders to Stargate projects, and neither of them would ever endorse an alien as a leader. I doubt even Teal'c could command Atlantis because of that, let alone an alien the IOA and the US military have virtually no direct experience with.

I love Keller. I look forward to more awkward romance between her and Ronon.

true, but you also do realize, that at some point, some one in the Pegasus Galaxy is going to go, WTF... why are you earthlings constantly screwing with our galaxy, and getting billions of us killed in the process.

i think it's clear, that even though the leaders of atlantis mean well, they are not equipped for the job at hand.

basicallly, I think Teyla would still fit the role well, most especially as a leader who conflicts with the greater authority she answers too. They tried to do this with weir, but it was like pulling teeth (because she sucked). But I think with rachel/teyla there, it would be much better.

atleast better than Picardo... who I've decided I respect because he is a sci fi nut.... but who I hate, because I think his character representation (in any property) is ultimately annoying, rather than entertaining (anyone who saw those god damn singing episodes of Voyager, will understand what I mean)

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The Doctor and Tom Paris were the only things I really liked about Voyager, actually. I do get what you mean, though; Picardo tends to give really smarmy performances, but in fairness, he usually plays smarmy characters.

I wouldn't be averse to Teyla as commander of Atlantis, myself. I just don't see it as very realistic. So what if the people of the Pegasus Galaxy get annoyed with the Earthlings? They're technological ******s; they can't do **** to the Earthlings. The more advanced races like Larrin's people and the Genii could probably take the Earthlings in a firefight, but McKay would probably come up with some deus ex machina to destroy all their ships simultaneously just before Atlantis is about to explode.

 

[Superfreak]

The Doctor and Tom Paris were the only things I really liked about Voyager, actually. I do get what you mean, though; Picardo tends to give really smarmy performances, but in fairness, he usually plays smarmy characters.

I wouldn't be averse to Teyla as commander of Atlantis, myself. I just don't see it as very realistic. So what if the people of the Pegasus Galaxy get annoyed with the Earthlings? They're technological ******s; they can't do **** to the Earthlings. The more advanced races like Larrin's people and the Genii could probably take the Earthlings in a firefight, but McKay would probably come up with some deus ex machina to destroy all their ships simultaneously just before Atlantis is about to explode.

precisely why Teyla should be incharge of the city... to keep us from mucking up the pegasus galaxy anymore than we already have. I see a contemporary metaphor coming on for our world, wherein those world superpowers, who think they are better than everybody else because they are more 'developed' ending up mucking up the world.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Again, fine metaphor, but it's not really practical within the show's universe.

 

[wiegeabo]

I thoroughly enjoyed tonight's episode. Felt like an old school SG-1 adventure. Lot's of silly humor and good suspense. Every time Rodney swung back and forth I caught myself lean back and forth with him.

And now Teal'c and Ronan are going to kick Wraith ass next week! Sweet.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, it was actually fun. Sam fell off of too much stuff, though. It became kind of farcical. The fact that Keller was there added some tension, too, because I'm not sure how many episodes she's committed to, so I wasn't entirely certain she'd survive.

And what the **** is up with Keller asking McKay out? Keller is meant for Ronon and Ronon alone!

 

[Gold Samurai]

Torri Higginson will NOT be in season 5

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/02/higginson_out_for_season_five.shtml

The actress has turned down an offer to appear in an episode of the show's fifth season, which the writers hoped would be the start of an on-going arc, according to executive producer Joseph Mallozzi.

The writers had devised a new storyline for Higginson's character, which they planned to revisit in Season Five

"We had a story in place for one episode, the starting point of a potentially bigger arc. The script was written and we eventually contacted Torri who, after much consideration, turned down the offer to reprise the role of Elizabeth Weir for the episode.

the relationship between the actress and the studio has been understandably strained since the actress -- who signed a 6-year deal and relocated to Vancouver when she was cast in 2004 -- was removed from the cast list.

The very last day of filming Season Three, as I finished filming the last scene on the last day, I was called up to the office and was told that my character was going to become recurring if I chose to be," Higginson recently said in an interview with DTRN's "SciFi Guys" Internet radio program. "So, I thought that was not a very dignified way to deal with it, and I was a bit surprised.

I don't think the writers treated her that well. Weir went nowhere and they didn't know what to do with Ford. Tapping has been underused and it's dragging Carter's reputation down too.


Repli Weir's plan will have to be reworked without the leader now

 

[LadyVader]

Yeah, it was actually fun. Sam fell off of too much stuff, though. It became kind of farcical. The fact that Keller was there added some tension, too, because I'm not sure how many episodes she's committed to, so I wasn't entirely certain she'd survive.

And what the **** is up with Keller asking McKay out? Keller is meant for Ronon and Ronon alone!

I know you can't have a pretty boy like Jason Momoa and not hook him up with some brainy chick just so the female fanbase can have somebody to identify with, but in all honesty Keller/McKay makes a whole lot more sense than Ronon/Keller.

 

[Superfreak]

Torri Higginson will NOT be in season 5

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/02/higginson_out_for_season_five.shtml








I don't think the writers treated her that well. Weir went nowhere and they didn't know what to do with Ford. Tapping has been underused and it's dragging Carter's reputation down too.


Repli Weir's plan will have to be reworked without the leader now

looks like step one to improving the show has been taken!!!!!!!!! Higginson gone, now they just need to get rid of sheppard, and replace him with someone a little more believable

 

[Dr Lee]

you do know that if the SAG strike then SG:A will lose both Shep and Ronon?

Personally i like Shep.

I do wonder how they'll get around not having Torri. Wonder if they'll remove Wier from the storyline or replace Torri with another actress?

On a slightly different note-

First we had Captain Alison Porter appearing in S&R (S5-E01) then it got changed to a Captain Vega.... Now DOCTOR Alison Porter is set to appear in 'Whispers' (I think thats the third Season five episode)

 

[Superfreak]

you do know that if the SAG strike then SG:A will lose both Shep and Ronon?

Personally i like Shep.

I do wonder how they'll get around not having Torri. Wonder if they'll remove Wier from the storyline or replace Torri with another actress?

On a slightly different note-

First we had Captain Alison Porter appearing in S&R (S5-E01) then it got changed to a Captain Vega.... Now DOCTOR Alison Porter is set to appear in 'Whispers' (I think thats the third Season five episode)

just wish they'd make him look the part, example, his hair. It'd be easier for me to deal with his *****bagery if he atleast looked like a colonel in the air force, instead of a rock star. Couple that with the new leather coats, and the irony is huge. (funny that Stargate made fun of things like this a long time ago in the fantasy of 'stargate extreme' - that's what atlantis feels like).

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Wormhole X-Treme, but I get what you mean. I think it's mostly because a lot of the people that were involved in SG-1 at that point have moved on. Mallozzi seems to have nothing but craptastic ideas, and he and Paul Mullie are the showrunners of Atlantis now. The buck stops with them.

I know you can't have a pretty boy like Jason Momoa and not hook him up with some brainy chick just so the female fanbase can have somebody to identify with, but in all honesty Keller/McKay makes a whole lot more sense than Ronon/Keller.

How so? Brainy chicks automatically fall for snarky, obnoxious guys?

 

[carrrnuttt]

just wish they'd make him look the part, example, his hair. It'd be easier for me to deal with his *****bagery if he atleast looked like a colonel in the air force, instead of a rock star. Couple that with the new leather coats, and the irony is huge. (funny that Stargate made fun of things like this a long time ago in the fantasy of 'stargate extreme' - that's what atlantis feels like).

I don't know if you were ever in the military or not, but I was in the USAF, and besides the fact that the Air Force was a bit more lax on the hair regs than the other services, certain Special Operators were also allowed to have their hair as long as they wanted to. As a matter of fact, they were required to NOT look military.

Now, I am not sure that that is Shep's background, but he certainly would be considered a Special Operator. In the special circumstance that he's in, maybe they're just a bit more lax about it where he is? Hell, his daily uniform is not within any regs that I know of. I do know that Carter's hair bun whenever she's in her command jumpsuit is within regs.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

His uniform is just BDUs, right? I thought those were what everyone on SG-1 wore the whole time, and that show was a lot more in line with USAF procedures, as far as I recall.

 

[LadyVader]

Wormhole X-Treme, but I get what you mean. I think it's mostly because a lot of the people that were involved in SG-1 at that point have moved on. Mallozzi seems to have nothing but craptastic ideas, and he and Paul Mullie are the showrunners of Atlantis now. The buck stops with them.

How so? Brainy chicks automatically fall for snarky, obnoxious guys?

When you have sci-fi show with a gorgeus guy you have to hook him up with a brainy wholesome girl so the thousands upon thousands of rabid fan girls will think they might have a shot with him.

In theory the relationship might sound good. Heck, Ronon's ex-wife was a doctor I believe, but there's nothing in how these actors play the parts so far that would make me believe they'd get together. To be fair, neither has been particularly well developed. Except for episodes focused solely on him, Ronon does little on the show.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I've seen couples in real life that make no sense to me, so I don't see how there's a need to somehow justify a relationship between Ronon and Keller. The bonding they did in that quarantine episode worked for me.

Speaking of which, has anyone noticed a trend of the Atlantis personnel to come up with solutions to problems that don't ****ing work? Everything they try in desperate situations fails miserably.

 

[wiegeabo]

I've seen couples in real life that make no sense to me, so I don't see how there's a need to somehow justify a relationship between Ronon and Keller. The bonding they did in that quarantine episode worked for me.

Just had a thought. What if there's a sort of love triangle between Keller, Ronan, and Rodney? Maybe Ronan even challenges Rodney to a fight. Or, funnier yet, in the heat of the moment, Rodney challenges Ronan (who would, of course, laugh it off).

Speaking of which, has anyone noticed a trend of the Atlantis personnel to come up with solutions to problems that don't ****ing work? Everything they try in desperate situations fails miserably.

Meh. The sames things happened on SG-1 all the time. Think of the episode when Anubus overloaded the stargate. Every idea Sam and Rodney tried either did nothing or made things worse.

 

[Dr Lee]

If the ideas worked first time then each episode will only bea bout 15 minutes long.

Untill we see more on this Ronon>Keller<McKay thing we dunno wtf was going on in that final scene.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but it's not an issue of the first idea not working. None of their ideas work. McKay blew up a solar system because his ideas didn't work!

Also, "Ronon>Keller<McKay" looks sexual to me when it's written that way.

 

[GyLocke]

I just hope Ronnon and McKay will **** each other up over Jewel. (Hell, I would)

That would be fun to watch. (Especially if McKay outsmarts him somehow giving him some street cred.)

 

[The Caped Knight]

Torri Higginson will NOT be in season 5

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/02/higginson_out_for_season_five.shtml

I can't say i'm sad, because I'm not . Weir was never IMO a strong leader to begin with . And just as she was starting too . They basically killed her off .

Tapping has been underused and it's dragging Carter's reputation down too.

Agreed, I really miss the Carter from the Good old Days with SG-1 . Bring her back damnit .

 

[TheCorpulent1]

She was better in last Friday's episode. I think she just suffers from not being front and center anymore. Carter's there, but she can't do anything we'd expect her to because it'd detract from McKay's "resident smart guy" status.

 

[Superfreak]

She was better in last Friday's episode. I think she just suffers from not being front and center anymore. Carter's there, but she can't do anything we'd expect her to because it'd detract from McKay's "resident smart guy" status.

ie. the same thing that happened when Jack became head of the sgc... they make the best characters suck