Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe

[Dr Lee]

it's only a few days difference.... but i know what you mean

 

[RetroNaz]

There are ways around that still...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Does Hulu work outside of the US? That's how I watch it.

 

[Kahoot]

Doesn't work in the UK that's for sure...

Torrents are always good though.

 

[Superfreak]

I'm enjoying it. I'm just a bit wary because, as familiar and comfortable as all the Stargate stuff feels, the creative team behind it can slide into stale, boring stories pretty easily.

that's why I'm being hard on it really. I figure they've had oodles of years to get their formula right... so this show should be held to a higher standard.

 

[Kahoot]

that's why I'm being hard on it really. I figure they've had oodles of years to get their formula right... so this show should be held to a higher standard.

It's a new show in the same universe as the old ones. The formula isn't quite the same.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

But Stargate was never as sophisticated or inventive as some of the better sci fi shows, like BSG or Farscape. Even their best seasons don't hold a candle to those shows. So holding them to a higher standard just because they've been at it for a long time doesn't really make sense, since they never really met extremely high standards in the first place.

 

[Happenstance]

Doesn't work in the UK that's for sure...

Torrents are always good though.

Yeah but id rather not use torrents if I dont have to and for the sake of a few days im not gonna bother.

As for Stargate compared to other Sci-Fi, I dont think its the fact that it doesnt hold a candle to them (Id rate SG1 at its best higher than BSG or Farscape). I think its just a different type of Sci-Fi, we know its more of a sci-fi adventure show not a sci-fi drama like say BSG.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Stargate's like Star Trek to me. It's been good, it's been bad, but more than anything else, it's familiar. I was pretty much indifferent to everyone on Voyager except the Doctor, but I still watched Voyager every week for years simply because it was "the Star Trek show" at that point. I feel comfortable just sitting down and killing an hour watching a show steeped in the familiar lore of the Star Trek universe. Similarly, I would've watched SGU regardless of its quality because it's "the Stargate show" right now. Thankfully, it's off to a pretty above-average start for the Stargate franchise as a whole.

 

[wiegeabo]

I've learned to keep my expectations low.

If it turns out to be as good as SG1 and Atlantis, I'll have nothing serious to complain about. If it turns out to be better, then I get to be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Manic]

So, this new Stargate Universe show...

What's it about, exactly?

 

[Gilpesh]

So, this new Stargate Universe show...

What's it about, exactly?

Whole bunch of people with varying issues, end up on a broken and old ship that is nowhere near home. So... LOST + BSG + stargates = Stargate Universe.

 

[Dark Helmet]

Dudes & Chicks. A dude beats a puzzle in a game. Two dudes show up at his house to enlist him in a government run program. They want to unlock the 9th Chevron on the Stargate. The base where the thing is gets randomly attacked. At the last minute they unlock the 9th Chevron & go through. The dudes & chicks end up on a ship no wear near their galaxy. The ship is ****ed up. The main scientist dude obviously has a secret plan & there will be random sex scenes that do nothing for the story. A dude dies in the first two episodes. The dudes & chicks get regular contact with Earth via a Long Range Communication device. The dudes & chicks gets to go to random planets as well. Rinse & repeat the last two sentences until they find a way to get home. Expect random experiences from some of fan favorite Stargate guys

 

[Manic]

Whole bunch of people with varying issues, end up on a broken and old ship that is nowhere near home. So... LOST + BSG + stargates = Stargate Universe.

Dudes & Chicks. A dude beats a puzzle in a game. Two dudes show up at his house to enlist him in a government run program. They want to unlock the 9th Chevron on the Stargate. The base where the thing is gets randomly attacked. At the last minute they unlock the 9th Chevron & go through. The dudes & chicks end up on a ship no wear near their galaxy. The ship is ****ed up. The main scientist dude obviously has a secret plan & there will be random sex scenes that do nothing for the story. A dude dies in the first two episodes. The dudes & chicks get regular contact with Earth via a Long Range Communication device. The dudes & chicks gets to go to random planets as well. Rinse & repeat the last two sentences until they find a way to get home. Expect random experiences from some of fan favorite Stargate guys

So... they're lost in space, exploring new planets, are jacked up people in general, have gratuitous sex scenes, and (from what I've seen by watching only the first few minutes of what I assume was the first episode), one of the main characters is an everyman geek?

Um... wow. Is there a charismatic leader whose first name starts with the letter J, and do they hope that each new stargate will be the gate home?

 

[Baggers]

Whole bunch of people with varying issues, end up on a broken and old ship that is nowhere near home. So... LOST + BSG + stargates = Stargate Universe.

+ Star Trek Voyager

 

[Manic]

+ Star Trek Voyager

So there's only one worthwhile character on the entire show?

 

[Gilpesh]

and do they hope that each new stargate will be the gate home?

Nah. Each new stargate is a hope they can fix something wrong with the ship so that they could one day find a way home.

+ Star Trek Voyager

Never watched it.

 

[Manic]

Nah. Each new stargate is a hope they can fix something wrong with the ship so that they could one day find a way home.

So they just repeated the plot to the first season of Stargate Atlantis all over again?

 

[Gilpesh]

So they just repeated the plot to the first season of Stargate Atlantis all over again?

We'll see in a few episodes.

 

[Gilpesh]

Alright. This might sound horrible and completely deus ex machina... but I think the Destiny recharges by flying into/near a sun.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

So they just repeated the plot to the first season of Stargate Atlantis all over again?

It definitely sounds similar at first, but the tone is much different and there are a lot of small differences in the execution. Atlantis featured an entire expedition specifically created for exploring and exploiting the resources of Atlantis; Universe features a group of about 1/3rd military personnel who were only supposed to be guarding a base and 2/3rds utterly ill-prepared civilians and scientists. Atlantis had Rodney McKay, a.k.a. the male, arrogant Carter, to figure out and explain everything; Universe has Dr. Rush, who isn't quite as smart as those two and is somehow even more arrogant than McKay and shady to boot, and Eli, a dude who's only there because he figured out an equation embedded in an MMO that Stargate Command designed. Atlantis could still contact Earth for supplies or support, or one of the Asgard-enhanced Earth ships could fly out to the Pegasus galaxy in a few weeks; Universe's Destiny is so far away from Earth that literally the only means of contacting Earth is the basic communication afforded by the stones. The Atlantis team could abandon Atlantis and gate back home whenever they wanted, even though it would mean losing the resources Atlantis provides; the Universe team is almost literally chained to the ship because it's automated and only opens its Stargate to certain pre-programmed worlds for 12 hours at a time--they've already unintentionally abandoned two people who gated to another planet and didn't come back before the 12 hours were up.

So basically Universe has a premise that's similar to Atlantis' but much more precarious. The tone of the show is also a lot more harrowing and character-centric--because these people aren't prepared for anything they're encountering, either in terms of experience or supplies, they're a lot more stressed than the Atlantis Expedition people were and the show itself has a darker tone than the action-adventurey feel of Atlantis.

So far it's off to a pretty good start.

 

[wiegeabo]

Alright. This might sound horrible and completely deus ex machina... but I think the Destiny recharges by flying into/near a sun.

I wouldn't really mind that at all. They think Destiny is sending them to a series of planets for survival, but what it's actually doing is setting itself up for a recharge so it can continue its mission.

Except, why didn't Destiny just do that with any star and keep it's batteries charged for all these centuries? So I'm wondering if Destiny made it's first mistake. The unpredictable atmospheric forces could have tweaked the course ever so slightly too far. The smallest fraction of a degree off, multiplied by hundreds of millions of miles, equals missing a planet and hitting a star.

 

[C. Lee]

Alright. This might sound horrible and completely deus ex machina... but I think the Destiny recharges by flying into/near a sun.

Me too. I was wondering at first if the gas giant flythrough would somehow recharge the batteries....but now that it's headed for the star, that has to be it.

Also.......I'm surprised no one has punched a few of Dr. Rush's teeth out yet.

 

[wiegeabo]

I'm really starting to like the focus on the characters. They're even giving the 'no-names' some personality. I'm wondering if they'll keep them all as irregular regulars.

Also, loved Peter DeLuise's little cameo as Peter. And I would never have thought of caffeine and nicotine withdrawal.

 

[C. Lee]

Who's to say the Destiny hasn't recharged a few times already on it's voyage. The arrival of 80+ people put a strain on it, and it's now recharging again.