Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe

[LadyVader]

Yep, McKay is definitely the best character on Atlantis. Hell, he rivals O'Neill himself as most consistently entertaining character in Stargate history as far as I'm concerned, especially in the coming episodes.

Like in "Letters from Pegasus", right? I think that's my favourite Atlantis episode. It was extremely funny, chock-full of character developement and it had some action too. Not to mention I actually LIKED Teyla in this episode. KUDOS to the writers!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, "Letters to Pegasus" was great. His tape was alternatively hilarious and poignant. Ford actually did a lot of stuff in that episode too.

 

[Superfreak]

The Siege, Part 1 man that satellite 'was' cool. And I think Sheppard is getting a little crazy. Nothing really happens, as it's the first of a a two parter, well, some slightly important things happen, but I can't wait til next week.

Reconning, Part 1, that damn repicator Carter, Baal, the return of a 'suprise' villain, the jaffa rebellion, the Asgard, the Tokra, the SGC, and hell, even 'Oma'. They're all in this one. Again, can't wait to see the conclusion of this mid season cliffhanger. I suspect the replicators will be finished in the next episode, finished for good.

Both episodes were decent, but both, as cliffhangers are totally dependent on how they end. I'm very excited, back to back cliffhangers, Atlantis faces a reduced fleet of Wraith, While in the Milky Way, the Jaffa, the Goauld, and the replicators are all converging on a single planet (and each of their respective survival's are on the line)

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought it was kinda coincidental how To'kara just happens to house an Ancient device that can destroy the Replicators once and for all. Other than that, "The Reckoning" is going swimmingly. It's very tense, Jack is hilarious, RepliCarter is surprisingly fun (I'm not a big fan of the "evil double" plot device), Teal'c is doing Jaffa stuff again after a season filled mostly with his assimilation into Earth society, and the list of guest-stars and cameos is excellent.

"The Siege" was good too, although considerably quieter than "The Reckoning." Big stuff happens, sure, but the main things are seemingly handled right in that episode (the Wraith on Atlantis and the orbital weapons array). I already know roughly what happens thanks to gateworld.net and my weak will for resisting spoilers, but it was still entertaining nonetheless. Groden shouldn't have died though. He was Atlantis' Walter.

 

[Superfreak]

I thought it was kinda coincidental how To'kara just happens to house an Ancient device that can destroy the Replicators once and for all. Other than that, "The Reckoning" is going swimmingly. It's very tense, Jack is hilarious, RepliCarter is surprisingly fun (I'm not a big fan of the "evil double" plot device), Teal'c is doing Jaffa stuff again after a season filled mostly with his assimilation into Earth society, and the list of guest-stars and cameos is excellent.

"The Siege" was good too, although considerably quieter than "The Reckoning." Big stuff happens, sure, but the main things are seemingly handled right in that episode (the Wraith on Atlantis and the orbital weapons array). I already know roughly what happens thanks to gateworld.net and my weak will for resisting spoilers, but it was still entertaining nonetheless. Groden shouldn't have died though. He was Atlantis' Walter.

totally agree... yeah, and such a coincidence, that everthing, that everyone wants is on Tokara, and yet, so utterly predictable. Regardless, it excites me. Jaffa vs. Goauld (with Baal vs. Anubis) vs. Replicators. It's gonna be big. And then to add to that, we pesky humans and our allies will stick our nose in the battle.

Spoilers, I too have a weakness. I'M VERY EXCITED to see Threads, as anything to do with the ancients on SG-1 is mint (it's become redundant on SGA already)

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I've been curious about what happened to Daniel as an ascended being since his return last season. "Threads" is supposed to tie all of that up so I'm looking forward to it. And, of course, Oma and her incomprehensible riddles are always fun.

I don't mind the coincidence either, I was just saying that it's such a huge, obvious plot device. But whatever, the convergence of all the major players in SG-1 right now and the potential for a good story in its conclusion makes up for it.

 

[Superfreak]

just thought I'd throw this by you guys....

I WANT AN ASGARD TO JOIN THE CAST OF SGA NEXT SEASON!!!!!

it makes sense, the asgard have also been studying the ancient technology, and I'm sure they'd wanna get their little grey fingers on atlantis aswell. I think it would be and interesting, as well as extremely entertaining addition to the cast. Moreover, I'd like to see Rodney conflict with a little grey alien, who is infinately more intelligent than he is

 

[LadyVader]

oh, that sounds good. But I don't know... Asgards are cool but just like every other alien on the show, they can be real pricks in their so called "superiority". But what would a little grey guy do on the show? It's not like they can take him on missions. He definetely doesn't have ancient DNA and therefore can't use the technology (some of it, the most important part). Maybe have them appear from time to time but not permanently. besides, the budget per episode would increase quite a bit. An asgardian means CGI, puppet handling, voice actor.
That McKay scene however would be awsome to see.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd love for an Asgard to join the cast. It might be a little impractical to have him be a regular cast member, but a recurring character would certainly be welcome. I too would love to see McKay galled at the fact that the Asgard would be unlocking more and more of the Ancients' technology while he has to deal with being second-best. Not to mention the fact that things are looking grim for the Replicators, so the Asgard may soon have some people to spare.

 

[Superfreak]

I'd love for an Asgard to join the cast. It might be a little impractical to have him be a regular cast member, but a recurring character would certainly be welcome. I too would love to see McKay galled at the fact that the Asgard would be unlocking more and more of the Ancients' technology while he has to deal with being second-best. Not to mention the fact that things are looking grim for the Replicators, so the Asgard may soon have some people to spare.

Yes, the Asgard shouldn't be a regular character on SGA, but more like a Zilenka character, a semi regualr. Maybe insert him as an Asgard scientist trying to figure out their cloning problem, where atlantis might hold the key to they're reproductive issues. Maybe even bring back the Hindol character from the episode 'Revelations' (the season finale right after Daniel ascends). I think an asgard would be the greatest, and most creative addition to the cast of atlantis, and I hope someone involved with the show catches the idea

 

[TheCorpulent1]

If they do introduce an Asgard, I hope it's a dude named Balder. I've got a thing for Norse mythology and I think Balder could use some mainstream pimping.

 

[twylight]

Hey! Nice to see my fellow Stargaties again! ^_^ Lady Vader, Corp!
And I'm still killing myself over missing the new eps...Justice League kinda got all the attention..grrr...anyway...my *late* views...

Stargate SG-1-
Interesting Ep. Danial was hilarious. I loved it......expecially the dinner part.
All in all rather predictable, they couldn't get to Atlantis that would have ruined both shows. But it was enjoyable and correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the girl from Farscape?
I like how they alluded to the Tok'Ra *sp?* I miss them and their fine looking guys..

Stargate Atlantis-
I take back ANYTHING I ever said bad about this show, sometimes I get tired of it's rather worn plots but McCay always saves the show. I've liked him since his first appearance on SG-1 "It's just us and the glowing bugs."
Etreamally creepy show though, and heartbreaking when McCay showed the guy what he looked like..I started to actually feel sorry and had to pinch myself to remember myself it was just a show. And then when he killed himself. That part was sad and depressing..
Is it just me or did the little glowing 'bugs' look like those energy things from an ep of SG-1? All I can say is Those poor little bugs! They were kinda cute..

 

[LadyVader]

Nice to see you too Twy. You got good tastes.
yeah, they were cute! The way they begged for food. But I feel they survived the explosion... At least they did in my dreams.
McKay is the one character in this show who's really changing as time goes by. In the begining he was kind of a goof, at least that's how I saw him. Sheppard isn't changing so much , as he's showing us what he's really made of. He's an enigma.
And Teyla is less and less sucky!

 

[LadyVader]

@ corp... the way they're going with naming aliens in this show I got a feeling they'll call him Johnny.

 

[Superfreak]

on the asgard thing, I think this'd be interesting.

Bring Loki to Atlantis (last seen in the episode where Oneill is cloned, and we end up with Oneill, and mini-Oneill). Bring both Loki, and mini ONeill to Atlantis (he has the gene, he's gotta be useful) Works in two ways,

1) you get an Asgard on Atlantis, an Asgard who has a shady history. Which would work well to develop some character for Loki. An interesting character, because he's a renegade Asgard (which is an interesting concept in itself).

2) You get a human kid on Atlantis, who can interact with the Genosian children etc, Atlantis is a city afterall, and sooner or later, more people are going to end up living there. Moreover, mini Oneill has the gene, but is also a competent 'adult' (as far as his brain is concerned) allowing him to be useful on the show. Plus, that kid does such a great RDA impression, it's worth a revisit.

 

[twylight]

Nice to see you too Twy. You got good tastes.
yeah, they were cute! The way they begged for food. But I feel they survived the explosion... At least they did in my dreams.
McKay is the one character in this show who's really changing as time goes by. In the begining he was kind of a goof, at least that's how I saw him. Sheppard isn't changing so much , as he's showing us what he's really made of. He's an enigma.
And Teyla is less and less sucky!

They survived in mine too.

Sheppard reminded me so much of O'Neill in the beginning, it's sort of funny.

McCay...I really liked how they sort of had him 'wanting' action, slowly evolving his character. It's awesome the whole gun thing was great "What now!?"
I really think that I enjoy watching Atlantis more than SG-1. SG-1 is getting kind of boring, eache ep is just like about one person on the team. Though when they do O'Neill it's fun.

Teyla is getting better! She's not quite so annoying, which is great!

 

[Superfreak]

AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stupid Cliffhangers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyhow, The Siege, Part 2. Very very cool episode. Various plot lines become interlinked in this episode which I like. The military force from earth brings A LOT of guns. The shots of the city defence are excellent, aswell as the wraith assaults on the city. The episode ends on a cliffhanger (a big cliffhanger)... have to wait until July for the conclusion We also finally see Weir get to do some 'diplomatic' work. My only beef with the episode is the Colonel sent to relieve Weir, and take command from sheppard. This guy is possibly one of the WORST CASTING JOBS EVER, THIS GUY CAN BARELY ACT, HE'S HORRIBLE (I think he's dead though, so good riddens). Can't wait to see the conclusion.

 

[GothicPowerMix1]

Super you saw the siege part 2 already ?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Good to see you too, twy. It seems like the gang from the first half of the season is all back... you, LadyVader, Superfreak, and I were the only people who came to this thread regularly.

Canada gets Atlantis and the UK gets SG-1 earlier than the US of A. I've been downloading the episodes as they become available and I gotta say, I agree with Superfreak on all counts. Freaking cliffhangers kill me, but I guess that's their job. Ford kicked ass and McKay and Zelenka were great as always, but it's definitely Sheppard and Teyla that are drawing my attention for season 2's opener.

Colonel Everett really can't act, although I think I read on Gateworld that he's supposed to be creating a new dynamic for the Atlantis team in season 2, so I suspect he survives. He got a little better as the episode progressed, but that's not saying much considering how utterly terrible he was at the beginning, when the SGC troops first arrived through the gate. Probably the worst "announcement" voice I've ever heard.

The effects were outstanding, probably second only to "The Eye" in the amount of sheer visual splendor packed into one hour-long episode. The flashback still stings... poor Groden. The one minor problem I have with this episode is a result of the fact that the UK and Canada are showing SG-1 and Atlantis on different schedules, respectively: I want to know what happened over at the SGC that led to Everett and the crew getting to Atlantis. I have a basic idea from synopses at Gateworld, but I want to see the two shows weaving together for myself.

 

[Superfreak]

I'm in Canada.... I didn't want to say too much unless no one else had seen it, but now that corp is in watch out for spoiling

Can you say 'Bagdad'? The AA in part 2 is Amazing. Although the budget constraints on the set kind of detracted from the 'role out the cannons' montage. but it did it's job well enough.

Yeah, after watching the episode again, I don't mind the colonel so much... he's supposed to be annoying, and his bad acting only adds to the effect. I also saw the potential of his addition to the cast. If that's what's happening. The interaction was actually quite good as the episode went on (as you said corp). It opens up the possiblity for the military/civilian rule conflict, which they could really capitalize on with Sheppard in charge (you can't have to two main characters at absolute odds with each other)

My biggest question is this: it seemed at the end that Atlantis had all but fallen at the end. No Teyla on the radio, and a bunch of stunned or dead people lying on the ground, Ford and a couple of marines were surrounded by a zillion or so Wraith, the colonel appeared to have been fed upon. So how do they get out of this mess

Any predictions?

Obviously the Daedelus is going to show up in the premier, so maybe they save Shep from riding a bomb in strangelove style.

I had this thought that maybe the nuke is a dud (it's built by morons by our standards) I think that'd be a pretty funny twist.

 

[GothicPowerMix1]

I HATE SCI FI NOW

I do NOT want to wait until july to see part 2 cant anyone tape it and put it online

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree, Superfreak, I think they may have dug themselves in a little too deep for a quick resolution in next season's premiere. Things we can bank on, however: Sheppard's gonna find some way out of the kamikaze run, Teyla's gonna pop up from... wherever... safe and sound, and Atlantis will survive the attack. I think the Daedalus will show up to ring Sheppard out of the jumper at the last second. Then they'll deliver the ZPM, but I have a feeling something will go wrong (as somethings are always wont to do on a Stargate show), McKay will frantically work out a cross-your-fingers solution with Zelenka, and Teyla will somehow either provide the last piece to the puzzle and save the day or save Ford.

Chosen: Superfreak and I are talking about part 2. There's more to the arc than just the two parts that end this season. It's most likely a three-parter with the conclusion doubling as the premiere for the next season or maybe even a 4-parter with a 2-hour episode as the premiere, much like we had at the end of SG-1's 7th season and the beginning of its 8th. Frustrating, I know, but these extra-long arcs do tend to make some of the best stories on the shows.

 

[GothicPowerMix1]

I know you guys are talking about part 2 of the siege

It just PISSES ME THE **** OFF that us USA guys have to wait

 

[Superfreak]

I know you guys are talking about part 2 of the siege

It just PISSES ME THE **** OFF that us USA guys have to wait

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean honestly, it's not like the States gets EVERYOTHER TV SHOW BEFORE canada or europe. My belief: Stargate, SG-1 and Atlantis SHOULD air in Canada before anywhere else b/c they are filmed in Canada...

 

[Superfreak]

I know you guys are talking about part 2 of the siege

It just PISSES ME THE **** OFF that us USA guys have to wait

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean honestly, it's not like the States gets EVERYOTHER TV SHOW BEFORE canada or europe. My belief: Stargate, SG-1 and Atlantis SHOULD air in Canada before anywhere else b/c they are filmed in Canada...




And just a side note... I think the producers of SG-1 and SGA should have thought about what they were doing a little more. It's nice to see that Atlantis and Sg1 are playing off of eachother, but the problem that exists now, is that Atlantis is further ahead in the timeline than Sg-1. Atlantis gets a ZPM from earth... but as far as the airings of episodes go, SG-1 has not yet located a ZPM, that's happening in 2 or 3 weeks. I think they should play or organize both series better, so that the continuity is all where it's supposed to be.

It just annoys me that they can't get the continuity b/w both show working well in order