Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe

[lars573]

Ra's guards in the movie were regular guys, when they spoke with the helmets down they sounded normal. Ra had all the same thing that the snake heads in the TV show do, glowing eyes, and a wired voice. His guards don't, and the people of Abydos think the guards are gods too. There are 3 things they worked into the Stargate mythos when they started SG-1.

1.The stargate goes to multiple planets
2.The Goa'uld are snake like parasites in your head
3.The soldiers are Jaffa, gen-tech soldiers with baby goa'ulds in a pouch in their gut.

In the movie Ra is a dying alien who transfers his mind into a young adult Egyptian to survive. Ra's original body looks like a cross between an Asgard and an Unas.

IMO it's a credit to the creators of SG-1 that all the changes they shoe-horned into the Stargate concept not seem at all forced.

 

[Superfreak]

I remember an episode where they explained Ra's guards.

The Horus Guard were the most bad @$$ of the Jaffa. They were for guarding the royal goauld family. That's why baldheadgotee goauld from the 4th season had them with him(?Heru-er?). There were fewer of them in number, because they were so much better than the average Jaffa.

as for the changes b/w movie and tv, I don't think the Jaffa were touched, only expanded. They never really explained why the Jaffa were Jaffa, or what they were, just that they were scary....



i hope for a joke, alternate universe episode at some point this season... Jack and Daniel encounter their movie counterparts. I think the writers and cast could have a lot of fun with that. McG vs. Kurt Russel, Shanks vs. Spader.

P.S. Teyla is a great character... but a totally neglected one. There really is no reason for her to be on the show, which is what makes her emensely annoying. If the writers give her a good reason for being, then her presence on the show will greatly improve. It would have worked better if 'her people' had stayed in the city, instead of moving to the mainland, never to be seen. She's essentially playing a female Teal'c. But where Teal'c had revenge and the fight for Jaffa freedom, Teyla has no motivation for her character, other than the wierd relationship b/w her and Shep

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Except now Ronon Dex is looking like he'll "out-Teal'c" Teyla. He's supposed to be a "specialist" in his people's military (just like Teal'c is a major player in the Jaffa military ranks) and he'll have a revenge motive against the Wraith because of that whole "runner" deal. Meanwhile, Teal'c's story just keeps getting more interesting as the new Free Jaffa Nation enters some sticky political situations.

 

[Superfreak]

Except now Ronon Dex is looking like he'll "out-Teal'c" Teyla. He's supposed to be a "specialist" in his people's military (just like Teal'c is a major player in the Jaffa military ranks) and he'll have a revenge motive against the Wraith because of that whole "runner" deal. Meanwhile, Teal'c's story just keeps getting more interesting as the new Free Jaffa Nation enters some sticky political situations.

agreed, all I was saying was that Teyla is a neglected character, that could be totally interesting if they flushed her out a little more... give her un raison d'etre.

I think I read somewhere that the new earth battle cruiser, will also have an Asgard crew member... my request was heard (perhaps). I love the little guys, and I'm glad they have (which they should have) a place on atlantis. Frik, the Asgard should be sending fleets to Atlantis

 

[lars573]

Teyla's whole raison d'etre is to be the attractive female in the main cast, nothing more. Not that I mind a whole bunch. THe adding of Ronon Dex is a less thean subtle indication that Teyla isn't working as the alien character.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, but the fact that her function is the attractive female alien doesn't have to be so incredibly obvious. Carter's function on SG-1 is to be the attractive female of that cast, but she's spunky and endearing and a great character in her own right. Granted, it looks like Vala's gonna be a bit more straightforward in her attractive female capacity this season, which is a shame because Claudia Black's capable of a lot more than just showing off her breasts.

There is an Asgard member onboard the Daedalus. Pics of him are posted on Gateworld's website and others. I'm looking forward to his interactions with the Atlantis crew. I missed the Asgard's presence on Atlantis in the first season, especially since Atlantis would probably be of great interest to the Ancients' old allies. As for why the Asgard aren't appearing in force, remember, they're still rebuilding in the aftermath of all the Replicator attacks. They've gotta completely re-establish their society after almost having their new homeworld destroyed last season. Plus they'd make things too easy as anything other than the occasional deus ex machina.

 

[Abaddon]

I watch it in syndication.I cant believe they killed off that doctor chick.She was cool.

 

[Superfreak]

Yeah, but the fact that her function is the attractive female alien doesn't have to be so incredibly obvious. Carter's function on SG-1 is to be the attractive female of that cast, but she's spunky and endearing and a great character in her own right. Granted, it looks like Vala's gonna be a bit more straightforward in her attractive female capacity this season, which is a shame because Claudia Black's capable of a lot more than just showing off her breasts.

There is an Asgard member onboard the Daedalus. Pics of him are posted on Gateworld's website and others. I'm looking forward to his interactions with the Atlantis crew. I missed the Asgard's presence on Atlantis in the first season, especially since Atlantis would probably be of great interest to the Ancients' old allies. As for why the Asgard aren't appearing in force, remember, they're still rebuilding in the aftermath of all the Replicator attacks. They've gotta completely re-establish their society after almost having their new homeworld destroyed last season. Plus they'd make things too easy as anything other than the occasional deus ex machina.

That was a whole season ago... I think the Asgard would be swarming the planet with ships (how useful they'd be remains to be seen) Atlantis could solve their cloaning problems permanently... and they could find tech to permanently deal with replicators (if there is a resurgence that is). The way I see it is, Atlantis is uber important to all the races in our galaxy

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Maybe the Asgard on Daedalus is heading there to determine how uber important Atlantis actually is. Weren't there also Replicators still in the Asgard's galaxy, too? They wouldn't be anywhere near as easy to get rid of over there, since the Ancient weapon was limited to our galaxy.

 

[lars573]

So does any body have any idea how long the Daedalus is going to be helping out Atlantis? Man I'm going to be seiously out of the loop for a while. I just hope that TMN picks up season 2 of Atlantis when it starts up. I hope that Space can get season 9 of SG-1 hot off the press too. This is the exact opposite of the US-Canada JLU thing. Unless you have an illegal statelite hook up you can't get the Sci-fi channel in Canada.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Doesn't Canada get the second half of the season earlier, though? I remember downloading episodes early from Canadian TV stations.

I'm pretty sure the Daedalus is a permanent fixture. I read that it'll be making frequent trips between Earth and Atlantis, presumably to save Atlantis from the Voyager curse.

 

[lars573]

Maybe we will get SG-1 season 9 when it starts, but more likely in September. Basically Space just got caught up on SG-1 this year. They got seasons 1-5 about a year ago when they went into syndication. They only got season 6, 7, and 8 this year. They put season 6 into the syndicated spot and started showing seasons 7 and 8 one after the other in a prime time slot. Season 8 ended last week. I hope that Space can get Atlantis, figgin movie channel is bogarting it right now.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That really sucks. Sci-Fi apparently can't seem to air enough Stargate right now. They show an episode every weekday at 6 p.m. and 4 more episodes on top of that every Monday from 7 to 11 p.m.

 

[lars573]

Well the way Space works it's prime time is 1 hour of "new" programming a night. Used to be at 10 PM now it's at 11, for Monday to Thursday. Timezones what are you going to do. The othe time slots are made up of re-run programs. Starting at 7 PM you have Star trek voyager, them Andromeda, SG-1 re-runs (seasons 1 to 7 now), then Mutant X. The rotation for the new stuff is Earth 2 (Mon), Jeremiah (TUE), Beyond/Tripping the rift (Wed), New SG-1 (Thurs). But tonight it says that the Stargate summer sensation is on, what ever the hell that is.

 

[Superfreak]

we usually get screwed in canada for SG-1. Last year's episodes have just finished their first airings.

Atlantis on the other hand, is partly produced by TMN Lars, so they actually have exclusive right to the show, so worry not, we'll be getting those on time. That's why we get it in High def etc. I believe the latest feature magazine has a little something to say about atlantis.

 

[lars573]

I however don't get TMN, my friend does and he tapes Atlantis for me. I just hope that Space gets SG-1 season 9 in the fall.

 

[Superfreak]

maybe they wised up, and realized that a show shot in canada should be aired first in canada, regardless of who is paying for the production

 

[LadyVader]

I watched Children of the gods, 1 and 2 today.
They were so young back then, And not really bad actors, but they weren't really comfortable with each other yet.

One thing that I loved was the fact that the chevron guy seemed nervous when performing his task. Live it up while you still can, this is going to be your life for the next ten years.

 

[Happenstance]

I watched children of the gods recently, im just so glad that they lightened Teal'c up coz watching it now he just seems way too emotionless

 

[lars573]

I've seen a few interviews that Space did with Chris Judge when they first got SG-1 and he said that when the series started Teal'C was very under developed. That as they shot the first season they were refining his character, motivation, personality stuff like that. And that is why for the first 2 seasons he doesn't say much.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

One thing that I loved was the fact that the chevron guy seemed nervous when performing his task. Live it up while you still can, this is going to be your life for the next ten years.

The interview with Walter in "Heroes" was great. "When I get to the 8th chevron, y'know, I like to switch it up a bit, so instead of 'chevron 8 encoded' I'll say 'chevron 8 locked.' It's small, but I think it, uh, adds a lot..."

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Anyone catch the all-day marathons? I missed a big chunk of them because of my classes, but I did get to see the beginnings and ends of both Atlantis and SG-1's marathons.

I hadn't really comprehended just how much the status quo in SG-1 changed over this season. I basically watched "New Order" and the next few episodes, then skipped a bunch because of class, then saw "The Reckoning" part 2, "Threads," and "Moebius," and I was like wow, all the major plots SG-1 had running since its conception are pretty much done now. It was really weird.

 

[Superfreak]

Atlantis premiers the 18th in Canada, for those who want to know

NEW TV THIS WEEK!!!!!!!

We gots Sg-1, Atlantis, and Battlestar, all starting up this friday. Should be exciting

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm going to be driving to Georgia this Friday night and staying for the weekend, so I won't be able to actually watch the premieres until Monday.

 

[Superfreak]

well, for me it's a late night on the computer, so that I can get all three by morning time