Comics State your opinion on a Spidey villain

[Spider-Aziz]

Ok ok, back to real villains

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[JJJ's Ulcer]

Was this the mushy-faced kinda-Harry clone who was originally intended to be Phil? If so, good riddance.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Yeah, he's the "Good Riddance" Goblin

 

[Themanofbat]

He's the Goblin that we never knew his identity... so yeah... who friggin' cares...

 

[Spider-Aziz]

 

[Spider-Aziz]

When Harry Osborn was a villain

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[Spider-Aziz]

Norman Osborn

The Original

Iron patriot​

And with today's double treat, I finish main Spidey villains of the 616 universe
Next I'll go to villains of other heroes in the same universe, before moving to other universes

 

[Themanofbat]

I liked Gog a LOT when I was a kid...

Harry first appearance as the GG was the only one that really mattered to me... though the JM Dematteis era really made me like him in that role again...

Norman was a great villain in the 60's/70's, but became a quick one tick pony...

Within 5 years, the main 3 GG stories (ASM #39/40, Spectacular #1 & ASM #96/97/98 all ended with Norman getting "amnesia")... this was obviously becoming a problem with Marvel, and since the death of Captain Stacy, Gwen had also become a two-dimensional "I hate Spider-Man because he killed my father" character, Marvel decided to kill two birds with one story... thus the infamous ASM #121/122... which should have been the "end" of Norman Osborn.

As far as Goblins go, we had a great few years with Harry, the Bart Hamilton story was lots of fun, and Stern made things interesting with a new generation in the form of the original HobGoblin.

However, when Marvel decided to bring back Norman as a "quick fix" to end teh Clone Saga, he was merely a "plot device"... much like he was back in 1973 when they needed a used up villain to kill Gwen.

I have a hard time believing that Norman has beenresponsible for all of Peter's hardships since his "death", and yes, while that potentially makes him Spidey's #1 villain on paper, I find it hard to swallow as a reader because it was never really the intent.

And don't get me started on how Marvel now treats Norman like their version of Lex Luther.... Norman should have stayed in the ground where he belongs back in 1973.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Norman's return made him my favorite Spidey villain, and I really liked him as an enemy for Iron Man as Iron Patriot
Dark reign: The list: Spider-Man is one of Slott's best
All the legacy he left behind and many goblins made him one of the most dangerous foes, he haunts his nemesis long after his death

Plus, all that was done to him made him great as a villain in TSSM animated

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Now WE'RE talking! You were smart to save the best for last (and not, say, end with Gog who no one gives a crap about ). But this is a biggie, so it might take me a while to formulate and put down my thoughts about these two. Maybe when I have some time later this weekend.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Thanks JJ
Kraven gave a crap about Gog

 

[Themanofbat]

Gog was awesome...

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Now from the X-Men rogues, one of the more popular ones, he even appeared in a recent Spidey game

 

[Themanofbat]

The original Juggernaut story still stnds the test of time as one of the greatest Spidey yarns of all time.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

 

[Wesley Dodds]

For me, he's a DD villain first and foremost but whoever he's fighting, Bullseye's a fantastic villain.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Of course he's a DD villain first and foremost, I'm now in villains from rogues of others who fought Spider-Man on more than one occasion

And I agree about him being fantastic whoever he fights, Deadpool more than anyone else

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Killer Shrike​

 

[Spider-Aziz]

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Time to go Ultimate, but here I'll post as order of appearance

Green Goblin/Norman Osborn

 

[Anubis]

The Juggernaut, Bullseye, and Absorbing Man are awesome.....that's why they're villains for better characters than Spider-Man.

But seriously, that Juggs story is one of the best Spider-Man stories ever written. Truly encompasses that never give up attitude people associate with Spidey. Up there with Ben vs the Champion of the universe.

Bullseye is just.....just cool. Coolest psychopath Marvel has. Which is saying something, cuz they got a lot.

And Absorbing Man is one of my favorites. Better for Thor/Hulk though. As dumb as he is, it's almost not fair going up against Spidey. (When he's not been dumbed down for the plot at least.)

Ultimate Goblin however sucks.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

You're not a fan of Ultimate, so it was expected to read that

I like UGG, he's still the original with some modifications

 

[Themanofbat]

I see we are no longer doing Spider-Man villains...

 

[Spider-Aziz]

We are now doing "Ultimate Spider-Man" villains
Not a fan of the universe I guess

 

[Themanofbat]

Nope.... never have....