Stephen Colbert has balls

[Mr Sparkle]

Yes I do.

Like, what a devastating, like comeback, like.

 

[Admiral_N8]

Like, what a devastating, like comeback, like.

Thank you.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

So you think its wrong we went into Korea? You think it would have been better if N Korea took over S Korea?? Tell that to the S Koreans....

"Cant change minds with weapons"...okay Mr Hippy Idealist. We sure changed Germany and JApans minds with our weapons.

Perhaps, perhaps not. However we allow Africa, specifically places like Uganda, and other such countries (Hutus and Tootsies as well in Rwanda) to utterly destroy themselves and don't appear to bat an eyelash. So if the base for such a war is to depose a dictator or prevent an uprising then we are a fairly hypocritical country and very selective about who and what we fight for. Also if you look at the context surrounding Vietnam, Korean and Iraq war you'll realize there were very ulterior motives behind all of them (at least the latter two).

 

[sinewave]

Yeah Colberts skit.

So Bush has to tolerate it, and he did.

i still don't get why you're saying he "had" to tolerate it? he could have stormed out of the room or had his secret service agents throw a black bag over colbert's head mid-speach and exercised "rendition" while sending him to a secret torture prison in the middle east like he's done to so many other people. but, he actually exercised some good judgement and sat there and took it, all the while pouting like a little kid who's being disciplined by his daddy.

 

[sinewave]

Dreadlocks? I dont even have dreadlocks


And here we have another cheerleader!!!

sorry. that's what it looks like in your avatar.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Thank you.

ohmygawd!

Like, I was just, Like you know *twirls gum again* Joking.
I think , you like, come of as a, like total *****e when It comes to like, politics ya know?

 

[Admiral_N8]

Perhaps, perhaps not. However we allow Africa, specifically places like Uganda, and other such countries (Hutus and Tootsies as well in Rwanda) to utterly destroy themselves and don't appear to bat an eyelash. So if the base for such a war is to depose a dictator or prevent an uprising then we are a fairly hypocritical country and very selective about who and what we fight for. Also if you look at the context surrounding Vietnam, Korean and Iraq war you'll realize there were very ulterior motives behind all of them (at least the latter two).

We cant fight everyone.

And of course there were many motives for the wars, like in Korea and Iraq 91...doesnt change the fact that Korea is much better off because the USA didnt "Stay out of foreign soil"

As for Africa, if we went in, we would never get out, and we would never win. Because the entire continent needs our help, and how could we possibly do that

However, I am a fan of going into Darfur right now

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

So you think its wrong we went into Korea? You think it would have been better if N Korea took over S Korea?? Tell that to the S Koreans....

"Cant change minds with weapons"...okay Mr Hippy Idealist. We sure changed Germany and JApans minds with our weapons.

You're damn right I thought Korea was a huge mistake. It was the wind up to Vietnam. It would have been bad for the South Koreans if the North invaded them, but why was that our concern? Do you realize we spend more manpower protecting other country's borders as opposed to our own. If we were attacked by a hostile force, do you think all these nations we've helped would lend us aid? In this world at this stage in time we have to take care of our own. We do not have the manpower nor the money to be a global policing unit.

 

[Admiral_N8]

sorry. that's what it looks like in your avatar.

Nope, just long and straight....my hair.

 

[Admiral_N8]

i still don't get why you're saying he "had" to tolerate it? he could have stormed out of the room or had his secret service agents throw a black bag over colbert's head mid-speach and exercised "rendition" while sending him to a secret torture prison in the middle east like he's done to so many other people. but, he actually exercised some good judgement and sat there and took it, all the while pouting like a little kid who's being disciplined by his daddy.

He didnt have to tolerate that skit, he could have left, but he chose to stay

But people are saying Bush doesnt tolerate questioning and criticism etc....but obviously Bush does, more so than any other president has that I can think of.

Look at all the stuff he puts up with...thats called tolerating, doesnt mean he has to like it or adress it, just means he has to put up with it.

 

[Admiral_N8]

You're damn right I thought Korea was a huge mistake. It was the wind up to Vietnam. It would have been bad for the South Koreans if the North invaded them, but why was that our concern? Do you realize we spend more manpower protecting other country's borders as opposed to our own. If we were attacked by a hostile force, do you think all these nations we've helped would lend us aid? In this world at this stage in time we have to take care of our own. We do not have the manpower nor the money to be a global policing unit.

Wow, you really thought Korea was a mistake?!

You really think S Korea and the world would have been better off if communist N Korea just rolled over S Korea without any resistance from the free world?! I have some S Korean friends who would be very upset at that.

Wow

And we spend more money protecting other countrys borders because it protects our interests at the same time.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

So you think its wrong we went into Korea? You think it would have been better if N Korea took over S Korea?? Tell that to the S Koreans....

"Cant change minds with weapons"...okay Mr Hippy Idealist. We sure changed Germany and JApans minds with our weapons.

Mister!? MISTER!MISTER?! That would be MISS Hippy Idealist to you!!!!


Actually I don't believe in Hippy Idealogy at all. I'm 100% drug free since birth and I don't listen to Grateful Dead of Phish. I do however believe in a more cosmic, shall we say New Age style of beliefs and world views. Humanity as a whole hasn't risen above the animalistic, barbaric behaviors of our evolutionary base yet.

 

[Admiral_N8]

Mister!? MISTER!MISTER?! That MISSHippy Idealist to you!!!!


Actually I don't believe in Hippy Idealogy at all. I'm drug free and I don;t listen to Grateful Dead of Phish. I do however believe in a more cosmic, shall we say New Age style of beliefs and world views. Humanity as a whole hasn't risen above the animalistic, barbaric behaviors of our evolutionary base yet.

Okkk, but your fluffy "cosmic" thinking doesnt work in the REAL world [you know, earth?].

Refer back to my Korea argument

 

[sinewave]

When did Bush take them out? Oct 2001 right?

And the tax cuts helped out, or do you guys really only give him credit for the bad but not the good??? I already know the answer to that, its a rhetorical question.

You "guarantee if we had a democrat" the last 6 years we'd be farther ahead? You have a crystal ball? What makes you think that, look at what Clinton didnt do.

i never claimed clinton took out the taliban. you falsely claimed bush did. nice dodge, though.

yeah, the tax cuts did help. they helped the rich get richer.

i guarantee because i know gore's stance on environmental preservation and i know that republicans fight the move to alternative fuels tooth and nails. they won't even admit what EVERY scientist on earth already knows: global warming is real and we're expediting it's effects with our gluttonous oil addiciton. not to mention the fact that the two most powerful men running this country made their names in the oil industry and i don't believe for a minute they'd do anything to jeopardize that industry for them and their buddies like ken lay.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Wow, you really thought Korea was a mistake?!

You really think S Korea and the world would have been better off if communist N Korea just rolled over S Korea without any resistance from the free world?! I have some S Korean friends who would be very upset at that.

Wow

And we spend more money protecting other countrys borders because it protects our interests at the same time.

Listen you malformed, misguided monkey, I could care less about the paranoic Domino Theory here. What business did we have with Korea other than importing sweatshop made goods that could have been made here on our own soil? I think as a country we should be exclusionists. We have the means to support our own people. We do not need foreign countries supplying us with goods and services.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Okkk, but your fluffy "cosmic" thinking doesnt work in the REAL world [you know, earth?].

Refer back to my Korea argument

Oh, my fluffy thinking will work when humanity has raised itself to a higher conscious state above that of warring animals. It's pigheaded apes like you who hold humanity back from its full potential.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Listen you malformed, misguided monkey, I could care less about the paranoic Domino Theory here. What business did we have with Korea other than importing sweatshop made goods that could have been made here on our own soil? I think as a country we should be exclusionists. We have the means to support our own people. We do not need foreign countries supplying us with goods and services.

yes you do.

al countries do as a matter of fact, it's the curse of the modern world.

 

[Admiral_N8]

i never claimed clinton took out the taliban. you falsely claimed bush did. nice dodge, though.

yeah, the tax cuts did help. they helped the rich get richer.

i guarantee because i know gore's stance on environmental preservation and i know that republicans fight the move to alternative fuels tooth and nails. they won't even admit what EVERY scientist on earth already knows: global warming is real and we're expediting it's effects with our gluttonous oil addiciton. not to mention the fact that the two most powerful men running this country made their names in the oil industry and i don't believe for a minute they'd do anything to jeopardize that industry for them and their buddies like ken lay.

I never said Clinton took out the Taliban...you said in 6 years if we had a Dem we'd be farther ahead in different energy...and I said what makes you think that, judging by what Clinton didnt do. Never said Clinton took out the Taliban.

The tax cuts made the rich get richer yeah, and it helped bring about huge growth and got us out of a recession. So I agree, the tax cuts did help.

How come Al Gore did as little as he did during his 8 years as VP?

 

[Admiral_N8]

Listen you malformed, misguided monkey, I could care less about the paranoic Domino Theory here.

Well I guess we are done here. We ALMOST had a civil discussion, almost.

And the saying is "could NOT care less".

It's pigheaded apes like you who hold humanity back from its full potential

Grow up??

 

[ShadowBoxing]

We cant fight everyone.

And of course there were many motives for the wars, like in Korea and Iraq 91...doesnt change the fact that Korea is much better off because the USA didnt "Stay out of foreign soil"

As for Africa, if we went in, we would never get out, and we would never win. Because the entire continent needs our help, and how could we possibly do that

However, I am a fan of going into Darfur right now

There would be many places that would be "better off" if we invaded, apparently you missed the point. If Africa is a country we'd never get out of then what is Iraq, and furthermore why do we still have troops in Korea and Vietnam (the infamous D Zone in Korea)...that logic did not stop us there certainly. The point is we select these countries for a reason, and the criticism for these wars in particular are quiet real.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

I never said Clinton took out the Taliban...you said in 6 years if we had a Dem we'd be farther ahead in different energy...and I said what makes you think that, judging by what Clinton didnt do. Never said Clinton took out the Taliban.

The tax cuts made the rich get richer yeah, and it helped bring about huge growth and got us out of a recession. So I agree, the tax cuts did help.

How come Al Gore did as little as he did during his 8 years as VP?

1.- what didn't Clinton do? this has been covered TIME AND TIME AGAIN. so please, god, let's hope it's not what I think it is.

2.- the tax cuts DIDN't help the economy, it DIDN't bring the US out of the recession, which you're not out of yet.


what the hell?

 

[THWIP*]

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I'M NOT GOING TO BOTHER WITH SCANNING THROUGH THIS WHOLE THREAD, BUT........AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T FIND THAT THE LEAST BIT FUNNY? HELL, PRES. BUSH HIMSELF DID A BETTER JOB AT CRACKING JOKES THAN COLBERT.

 

[Admiral_N8]

There would be many places that would be "better off" if we invaded, apparently you missed the point. If Africa is a country we'd never get out of then what is Iraq, and furthermore why do we still have troops in Korea and Vietnam (the infamous D Zone in Korea)...that logic did not stop us there certainly. The point is we select these countries for a reason, and the criticism for these wars in particular are quiet real.

Yes there are many places that might be better off if we helped, my point is that we cant not go into one place because it can be said "well what about that place too? theyd be better off". We cant go everywhere.

As for when I said "we'd never get out" of Africa I mean we wouldnt because the fighting we keep going, we'd still be fighting...not like in Korea where we just have troops sitting there. No, the violence would continue daily like Iraq. And we all know we DONT want another Iraq.

And yes I realize the criticism is real and has many valid points

 

[Admiral_N8]

1.- what didn't Clinton do? this has been covered TIME AND TIME AGAIN. so please, god, let's hope it's not what I think it is.

2.- the tax cuts DIDN't help the economy, it DIDN't bring the US out of the recession, which you're not out of yet.


what the hell?

1) He didnt do that much to research new fuel or do anything to free us from foreign oil.

2) We are still in a recession??? And the tax cuts did help the economy, remember all that huge growth recently?? remember?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I never said Clinton took out the Taliban...you said in 6 years if we had a Dem we'd be farther ahead in different energy...and I said what makes you think that, judging by what Clinton didnt do. Never said Clinton took out the Taliban.

The tax cuts made the rich get richer yeah, and it helped bring about huge growth and got us out of a recession. So I agree, the tax cuts did help.

How come Al Gore did as little as he did during his 8 years as VP?

Incorrect the recession ending had little or nothing to do with tax cuts, in fact the bulk of that money goes overseas. Most recoveries in economics are consumption driven, meaning as of right now we are buying more stuff. The problem was largely to do with Sept 11th, the War and several other smaller issues that were driving consumer confidence down.