Stephen Hawking claims aliens exist and are likely hostile

[blksuperman2]

I'd like to think that aliens are all hot Blondes like in the "Species" movies. They just want to come to earth and procreate before killing us.

 

[BlackLantern]

I would love to have a Xenomorph as a BFF.

yea...until it drops acid poo on your new shoes

 

[Metamorpho1977]

Once again, the whole argument that "Because the universe is so big, odds are life is out there," is faulty. I am not saying one way or another, but to base the idea of extra terrestrial life on that is foolish. After all, there is a key variable missing from that equation. We do not know under what circumstances intelligent life is formed. We can be the one in one zillion chance or we can be incredibly common. Until we know that variable there is no way to know one way or another.

Beyond that, I find Hawkings' line of thinking to be off. "Nomads looking for conquest and conquer." He is making the vital flaw of assuming their culture would be like ours. For all we know, conquest is an entirely foreign concept to ETs. I mean, to write off a species that could master intergalactic travel as "nomads," is a bit naive.

Agreed. Just the way the universe is structured is highly unsuitable for life. The location of Earth is in just the right place in the universe to sustain life.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

oh and Stephen Hawking is an idiot.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Hawking is an idiot? Bwahahaha. You're funny.


Who the hell are you? I'm pretty sure he's the Lucasian chair at Cambridge.


Plus Hawking has math on his side. Maybe you've heard of it. It sounds like some critics are trying desperately to defend some sort of egotistical exceptionalism idea.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

No, I'm basing my opinion on how the universe is structured. Science backs it up. Almost any other place in the galaxy is highly unsuitable for life. Black holes, dwarf stars don't provide enough heat to sustain life. If the Earth were anywhere else even in the milky way it would be absorbed by a black hole or struck by asteroids.

Hawking thought he could beat Data at poker.

 

[BlackLantern]

any other place, that we know of....we are carbon based life forms...who's to say that life couldn't generate some other way

in short, the universe is a big frakkin' place and who the frak knows what's out there

 

[SuperFerret]

No, I'm basing my opinion on how the universe is structured. Science backs it up. Almost any other place in the galaxy is highly unsuitable for life. Black holes, dwarf stars don't provide enough heat to sustain life. If the Earth were anywhere else even in the milky way it would be absorbed by a black hole or struck by asteroids.

Hawking thought he could beat Data at poker.

I have two issues with common theories supporting the existence of extraterrestrials. One, why is there always the assumption that life that evolved on other planets would adhere to the rules and limits of life on Earth (needing oxygen, water, etc.).

 

[kane9321]

what about the female ones?

That's a Big hell not:

I want the aliens to look like humanoids

 

[BlackLantern]

I want the aliens to look like humanoids

why?

 

[kane9321]

Bingo. The only way humanity is going to reach the stars.... is if they find out that blue cat monkey people are sitting on tons of a super expensive element on another planet that can be sold for amounts of money not even thought of yet. Hm... agabaziltratanillion dollars. That's what it's worth for an ounce.

Sounds like a movie I just bought..mmmmt:

 

[kane9321]

why?

Well..we all know about the "greys and lil green guys"

 

[BlackLantern]

can you not handle an alien species that is not in a "humanoid" or "animal" form??

 

[Metamorpho1977]

the problem with the "other element" life form theory is that none of the other elements are strong enough to handle the structures of creating life. Carbon is the only one with the right bonds to be able to hold everything together to enable to life to exist.

 

[BlackLantern]

that we know of

 

[Paradoxium]

Hawking is an idiot? Bwahahaha. You're funny.


Who the hell are you? I'm pretty sure he's the Lucasian chair at Cambridge.


Plus Hawking has math on his side. Maybe you've heard of it. It sounds like some critics are trying desperately to defend some sort of egotistical exceptionalism idea.

I am pretty sure Hawking would say something to the effect that math is just a tool subordinate to science.

 

[Danalys]

Hawking is an idiot? Bwahahaha. You're funny.


Who the hell are you? I'm pretty sure he's the Lucasian chair at Cambridge.


Plus Hawking has math on his side. Maybe you've heard of it. It sounds like some critics are trying desperately to defend some sort of egotistical exceptionalism idea.

well it maybe a bit silly to say he's an idiot, but to take an argument from him outside of his speciality just based on his authoritative position is a logical fallacy.

also the math is simple. the accurate data to calculate from not. it's like working out miles per gallon is easy but working out the mpg of the batmobile isn't.

 

[Danalys]

the problem with the "other element" life form theory is that none of the other elements are strong enough to handle the structures of creating life. Carbon is the only one with the right bonds to be able to hold everything together to enable to life to exist.

that doesn't discount other hypothetical systems of replication. i agree it's best to calculate based on what we actualy know is possible thus far.

 

[Paradoxium]

I can fathom a extra-dimensional species looking at us. Like a human (alien) looking into an aquarium, where the fish (us) has no sense of what reality is like outside of water (our reality). Or another species vibrating within the same time space only to the point we can't see them.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

Science is science. Chemistry is chemistry, bonds don't change. That is one of the constants of science.

 

[Danalys]

you're not really thinking outside the box on this. that box being life as we know it.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea but you're acting as though us humans know everything about everything.

The fact is, we don't. We haven't explored 0.0000000000000000000000001% of the universe.

To say no where else in the universe can support life, after exploring literally NONE OF IT is arrogant and foolish. You cannot limit the possibility of other life by things we have discovered or invented, because the rules us humans have discovered or invented may not apply to the rest of the universe. And again, to think that the rules we have come up with apply to everything else in the universe is arrogant and foolish.

 

[C. Lee]

They keep finding life on places of the Earth that they previously thought were incapable of sustaining life......somewhere out there (in the slightly larger area known as space) there is sure to be life....and some of it is sure to be smarter than us fanboys.

 

[Danalys]

there's places that can only support simple life (that we know of) and not many places or conditions under which life could begin, which could then evolve to live in these harsh environments.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I just don't understand why people think rules that govern our planet govern anywhere else in the cosmos.