Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer

[Goshdarn Batman]

from Eugene Kaik.

Love the Creepshow comic

 

[GremlinZilla89]

"IT" is probably my favorite book of all time and while I do like the TV movie it doesn't really capture the absolute cosmic horror of the novel. Can a film even achieve this? I don't know.

The novel is so dense with subtext and characterization and plot that I would LOVE to see it turned into a 8-10 hour mini-series on HBO. Considering how dense True Detective is it seems like a no brainer to have Fukanaga do it all over again with IT.

But I can be happy with two 2-3 and and half hour films as well.

 

[Thundarr]

it's not the size that confused me. it's the shape.

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http://www.reocities.com/TelevisionCity/Studio/1589/Seth82.jpg

Could also be that he broke his nose somehow, which ended up altering it's shape. Combined with the physical effects of puberty, his nose could have "altered itself" to fit his face. Like I said before, there are lots of explanations.

 

[Thundarr]

"IT" is probably my favorite book of all time and while I do like the TV movie it doesn't really capture the absolute cosmic horror of the novel. Can a film even achieve this? I don't know.

The novel is so dense with subtext and characterization and plot that I would LOVE to see it turned into a 8-10 hour mini-series on HBO. Considering how dense True Detective is it seems like a no brainer to have Fukanaga do it all over again with IT.

But I can be happy with two 2-3 and and half hour films as well.

I think a film (or at least a pair of films) could most certainly achieve this. As I mentioned earlier, the problem with the made for TV movie was that it was made for TV. That means a smaller budget, which means fewer special effects. Also they had to work within the parameters of the allotted time slot (which is typically 2 hours). They not only had to squeeze as much of the book into the two 2 hour time slots afforded them, but they also had to leave room for commercials (making each half about 90 to 100 minutes). Without these restrictions, and with the technological advances in film making over the past twenty-some-odd years, I most certainly think that a movie (or pair of movies) could achieve the sense of cosmic horror from the novel.

The two movies just have to be long enough in order to fit in all the important stuff that's needed to provide such a sense of horror. 2 and a half hours I think would be the absolute minimum. Three hours would be better. I doubt it would go three and a half or four hours, except for on the unrated director's cut on DVD & Blu Ray.

While a longer miniseries (perhaps 3 or 4 parts) on HBO would certainly contain more elements from the book, and wouldn't have to put up with as much censorship crap as a regular TV network (or even the MPAA, I don't know if TV is in their jurisdiction) I REALLY want to see this movie on the big screen. So two 3 hour long movies gets my vote.

 

[Thundarr]

Love the Creepshow comic

I didn't even notice that! Good call!

Has anyone else noticed a lot of parallels between IT & Dreamcatcher? The main characters of both stories all grew up in Derry. Both villains come from outer space. Pennywise also calls himself "Robert Gray", while the hitch hiker in Dreamcatcher calls himself "Mister Gray".

Are these two stories supposed to be linked somehow? Or is Mister King just running out of new ideas?

 

[redhawk23]

The book of Dreamcatcher more or less drives home the connection. One character even visits Derry and sees a monument to the dead children that the surviving members of the Loser's Club built. Its a little obnoxious. Its less a matter of running out of ideas so much as extreme self indulgence. Dreamcatcher is one of Kings worst novels, written during his recovery after being hit by a car, and most of the book is rehashed ideas, and a character with similar injuries b***ing about it.

 

[redhawk23]

I think a film (or at least a pair of films) could most certainly achieve this. As I mentioned earlier, the problem with the made for TV movie was that it was made for TV. That means a smaller budget, which means fewer special effects. Also they had to work within the parameters of the allotted time slot (which is typically 2 hours). They not only had to squeeze as much of the book into the two 2 hour time slots afforded them, but they also had to leave room for commercials (making each half about 90 to 100 minutes). Without these restrictions, and with the technological advances in film making over the past twenty-some-odd years, I most certainly think that a movie (or pair of movies) could achieve the sense of cosmic horror from the novel.

The two movies just have to be long enough in order to fit in all the important stuff that's needed to provide such a sense of horror. 2 and a half hours I think would be the absolute minimum. Three hours would be better. I doubt it would go three and a half or four hours, except for on the unrated director's cut on DVD & Blu Ray.

While a longer miniseries (perhaps 3 or 4 parts) on HBO would certainly contain more elements from the book, and wouldn't have to put up with as much censorship crap as a regular TV network (or even the MPAA, I don't know if TV is in their jurisdiction) I REALLY want to see this movie on the big screen. So two 3 hour long movies gets my vote.

The problem with the made for TV film was that it was made for network TV. But even then it is no longer 1990. If something with amount of effects work and downright artful gore as Hannibal can exist for 2 or more seasons, an It adaptation could sustain itself and do justice to the material for 6-8 episodes or just two halves.

Along with dealing with a fairly large cast of characters and a somewhat hard to pin down monster, one of the most important and enduring aspects of the story is Derry itself. The place itself is poisonous. This type atmosphere building slice of of life environment presentation is something that True Detective excelled in when portraying its version of Louisiana. It was a place with history, and a history of violence at that. That aspect is what excites me most about Fukunaga's potential involvement.


Side note, seriously Hannibal is so well put together it is ridiculous.

 

[Sawyer]

The problem with the made for TV film was that it was made for network TV. But even then it is no longer 1990. If something with amount of effects work and downright artful gore as Hannibal can exist for 2 or more seasons, an It adaptation could sustain itself and do justice to the material for 6-8 episodes or just two halves.

Along with dealing with a fairly large cast of characters and a somewhat hard to pin down monster, one of the most important and enduring aspects of the story is Derry itself. The place itself is poisonous. This type atmosphere building slice of of life environment presentation is something that True Detective excelled in when portraying its version of Louisiana. It was a place with history, and a history of violence at that. That aspect is what excites me most about Fukunaga's potential involvement.


Side note, seriously Hannibal is so well put together it is ridiculous.

Yeah, I would definitely say that the bigger problem was the era of network TV, rather than network TV overall. Granted, I wouldn't necessarily want to see an adaptation on network TV today, but I think it would turn out a helluva lot better than the 1990 version did. Same with The Stand. That thing just did not have a good look to it.

 

[redhawk23]

Network TV wouldn't be ideal but TV in general would hardly be holding it back.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Network TV wouldn't be ideal but TV in general would hardly be holding it back.

Under The Dome is coming across as kind of half-assed. A step beyond the 90's but still cheap.

AMC or maybe FX could do this I reckon. I wouldn't trust it to the networks though.

I'm not feeling much faith in this, The Stand or Dark Tower right now to be honest.

 

[Sawyer]

Under The Dome is coming across as kind of half-assed. A step beyond the 90's but still cheap.

AMC or maybe FX could do this I reckon. I wouldn't trust it to the networks though.

I'm not feeling much faith in this, The Stand or Dark Tower right now to be honest.

Eh. It's CBS. They're cheap as **** for being the network that probably makes the most money.

NBC or FOX would give a much better result. This season of Revolution has had a great look to it, so much so that if it was pretty much copy and pasted onto The Stand, I'd be A-okay with it.

ABC may have given me LOST, but I just don't trust modern ABC.

 

[Thundarr]

The problem with the made for TV film was that it was made for network TV. But even then it is no longer 1990. If something with amount of effects work and downright artful gore as Hannibal can exist for 2 or more seasons, an It adaptation could sustain itself and do justice to the material for 6-8 episodes or just two halves.

Along with dealing with a fairly large cast of characters and a somewhat hard to pin down monster, one of the most important and enduring aspects of the story is Derry itself. The place itself is poisonous. This type atmosphere building slice of of life environment presentation is something that True Detective excelled in when portraying its version of Louisiana. It was a place with history, and a history of violence at that. That aspect is what excites me most about Fukunaga's potential involvement.


Side note, seriously Hannibal is so well put together it is ridiculous.

Part of it was the fact that it was made for TV. Part of it was the fact that it was made for network TV. And part of it was the fact that it was made in 1990.

Back then, you couldn't get away with as much on network TV as you can now. Look at TV shows like The Shield for instance. Lots of swearing, partial nudity, and some very suggestive scenes. And it ran for 7 seasons! Also, you didn't really have weekly series on HBO back then I don't think. I think it was strictly a movie network in those days, which didn't produce their own programming (although we get different stations here in Canada, so I may be remembering that wrong). And as I mentioned before, FX technology has come a long way since 1990. Just look at how well done Buffy & Angel were, and their budgets per episode are minuscule when compared to that of a made for TV movie.

And I'm not saying that doing another TV miniseries wouldn't work or be the best way to go. I'm just saying that I think IT would look totally awesome on the big screen, so that's how I'd prefer to see it (as long as they don't try and cram the whole story into a single 90 minute film, because that would just suck).

 

[GremlinZilla89]

The book of Dreamcatcher more or less drives home the connection. One character even visits Derry and sees a monument to the dead children that the surviving members of the Loser's Club built. Its a little obnoxious. Its less a matter of running out of ideas so much as extreme self indulgence. Dreamcatcher is one of Kings worst novels, written during his recovery after being hit by a car, and most of the book is rehashed ideas, and a character with similar injuries b***ing about it.

Completely disagree. It's one of his better novels of his later career. It's somewhat unwieldy and you can argue that he recycles many of his past ideas, but imo the sheer ridiculous forward momentum and craziness of the plot make up for it. The plot twists and turns with one whacked out situation after another but it still feels oddly contained-like he had an endgame for it. Kings grasp on characters is still as strong as ever and the book has a wonderful sense of building dread. His way of making something mundane/everyday scary is on full display here. An alien being that makes you bloated and gassy and upset in the stomach before it busted out of your butt sounds absolutely stupid and ridiculous. But King, man, he makes it horrifying. Because everybody gets bad gas sometimes don't they? Everybody has suffered from an upset stomach once or twice right? King taps into that uncomfortable feeling of being sick to your stomach, makes you remember the worst stomach flu you've ever had, and tells you next time it happens you could be host to an alien creature. It's darkly comedic and scary as hell at the same time.

Granted, the second half of the book isn't as tightly woven as the first and some of his idea's aren't as well thought out like some of his more acclaimed work, but Dreamcatcher is a hell of a yarn imo. Then again, I'm somewhat of a King apologist in that I thing many of his more forgotten/disliked books are underrated. I really only think he's written a handful of true duds in his life:

Cujo
Cell
Thinner
Insomnia
Just After Sunset
Blockade Billy
Full Dark, No Stars

Everything else ranges from either pretty good to great to masterpiece imo.

 

[redhawk23]

While not his best collection of stories, I thought the majority of Full Dark, No Stars was fairly good.

And I really can't agree on the characters in Dream Catcher. They were mere sketches in comparison to similar characters from It.

 

[Thundarr]

My Dream Cast

Don Cheadle as Mike Hanlon

Jerry O'Connell as Ben "Haystack" Hanscom

Christian Bale as "Stuttering" Bill Denbrough

Jim Carrey as Richie "Trashmouth" Tozier

Julianne Moore as Beverly Marsh

Jackie Earl Haley as Eddie "Spaghetti" Caspbrack

Jeff Goldblum as Stan "The Man" Uris

Gary Oldman as Pennywise The Dancing Clown

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(* Yes, I know his nickname in the book was "Eds", but I like the nickname they gave him in the 1990 movie better.)

 

[Schlosser85]

Tom Hardy's clown get-up in that one scene in Bronson was pretty ****ing creepy.

 

[Thundarr]

Tom Hardy makes a pretty ****ing creepy clown in that one scene in Bronson

Looks more like a mime to me. Although, mimes are pretty creepy too.

 

[Thundarr]

By the way, I didn't bother casting the kids, because by the looks of things, by the time they start shooting this damn movie the kids will be old enough to play the adult versions of the characters.

 

[OcStat]

What is the official status of this movie right now?

 

[redhawk23]

Its just essentially something that Fukanaga has reiterated his intent to do eventually, but not even necessarily next.

So basically

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[Thundarr]

What is the official status of this movie right now?

This is what I've found.

http://grantland.com/hollywood-pros...ve-and-well-and-ready-for-us-to-fantasy-cast/

 

[Thundarr]

I've looked on a bunch of websites, Trying to find more updated info on "IT". Pretty much everything already posted or linked on this site is all the current info that there is.

I just hope they get a final draft of the script and start casting soon. I'd really like to see "IT" in theatres by 2015.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

It will be like The Simpsons. You know the episode with Bart and the Itchy and Scratchy movie.

 

[Thundarr]

It will be like The Simpsons. You know the episode with Bart and the Itchy and Scratchy movie.

You know, I've always wanted to see The Simpsons spoof "IT" for their annual "Treehouse Of Horror" Halloween episode. Picture it! Krusty as Pennywise, Bart as Bill, Lisa as Beverly, Milhouse as Eddie, Gunter as Ben, Nelson as Henry Bowers (I don't know who could fill in for Stan, Richie, and Mike, they might have to be cut from the story). When the kids discover the alien behind Pennywise/Krusty, it's Kang/Kodos! It's almost perfect! It would work best if done like Family Guy's "Star Wars" spoofs, I think. It would be both funny AND creepy.

 

[:eek:]

Adaptation of Stephen King's IT Shifts from Warner Bros. to New Line

Source: The Hollywood Reporter
May 21, 2014


The Hollywood Reporter brings word this morning that the feature adaptation of the Stephen King's IT has shifted from Warner Bros. to their New Line division, which the outlet reports will now take the lead on all things horror for the studio.

True Detective's Cary Fukunaga was hired to helm the adaptation back in 2012, and it still seems that is the case. The studio is eyeing to release the film in two feature length parts, the first one focusing on the characters as children and the second featuring them as adults.

Previously adapted as a television miniseries in 1990, King's official site describes IT as follows:

A promise made twenty-eight years ago calls seven adults to reunite in Derry, Maine, where as teenagers they battled an evil creature that preyed on the city's children. Unsure that their Losers Club had vanquished the creature all those years ago, the seven had vowed to return to Derry if IT should ever reappear. Now, children are being murdered again and their repressed memories of that summer return as they prepare to do battle with the monster lurking in Derry’s sewers once more.

Fukunaga himself will also attend to scripting duties alongside Chase Palmer with David Katzenberg, Roy Lee, Dan Lin and Seth Grahame-Smith producing