SteveDeKnight

[BaK]

DeKnight was asked some interesting questions over at TWOP and he gave some interesting answers. Worth a check.

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3140929&pid=5305755&st=0&#entry5305755

Some real good answers..
Yep, the guy knows elementar logic when thinking about issues..
(unlike most of the "fanboys/girls")

This bit brings to mind recent "arguing" here - on this forum, about so called "double standards"..

The question was about (3) girls "beating up" Clark in Spell:

Seriously, guys getting beat up by girls is a whole different bag than
guys beating up girls. That's just the way it is.
Plus it's witches attacking Superboy, so no, I didn't see a problem with it.

 

[zanos]

I'm not an apologist for Smallville, hardly, but you're making quite an accusation on little or no evidence.

Well you sure sound like one judging from the rest of your post. It's basically the same argument I hear from every other diehard fan of the show. Deknight himself has admitted that it's a ripoff of SAW! How's about that for evidence. But the problem was the casual way he went about admitting it. Whether I was forced to write an episode like that or not I would feel like I owed the fans an apology, not make a joke out of it. There are ppl who take this stuff seriously. They would have to if they're still watching this mess of a show week after week.

The stories are similar but Steven didn't steal anything.... He maybe borrowed the general idea from Saw but the implementation was entirely different and that is an important distinction.

No it was stolen. It was completely lifted out of Saw. Everything from the voice, to the way the villian spoke, to the mask and to the torture games were completely lifted from that film. It seems for something to qualify as a ripoff you need everything to be an exact duplicate.

It's like a few years back when there were two huge-meteors-are-going-to-destroy-earth movies... (Armageddon and Deep Impact)

Those were totally different films but had one thing the same: a huge meteor was set to hit Earth.

Saw and Mercy are the same thing.

Same idea, but the episode and the movie have totally different expressions of that idea.

Smallville was ripping stuff off as earlier as the pilot episode. They haven't stopped since. Mercy wasn't the first instance. This happens when you have a couple of hack executive producers behind a show like this.

 

[avidreader]

^^^^ I still dont get your point of being here other than to bash Smallville.

And for your information, De Knight said it was a homage not a rip off.

 

[Serene]

Smallville was ripping stuff off as earlier as the pilot episode. They haven't stopped since. Mercy wasn't the first instance. This happens when you have a couple of hack executive producers behind a show like this.

There's a really easy way to solve your dilemma you know....

 

[zanos]

^^^^ I still dont get your point of being here other than to bash Smallville.

And for your information, De Knight said it was a homage not a rip off.

He said he preferred it to think of it as a homage when ppl accused it of being a ripoff of Saw and his next words were "ah forget it you know the score" What do you think that means? I don't understand the point of living in denial.

 

[zanos]

There's a really easy way to solve your dilemma you know....

My deliemma was solved quite a while go but I did watch like 25 minutes of Mercy on and off. I "saw" all I needed to.

 

[BaK]

My deliemma was solved quite a while go but I did watch like 25 minutes of Mercy on and off. I "saw" all I needed to.

how great for you to be able to see right through these evildoers plans to con you into watching some third grade ripp offs..

please, do come here more often, to enlighten and warn us of these monstruos fakeness and "plagerisms"..

 

[NHawk19]

Things I've learned or had confirmed from DeKnights myspace page:

Regarding Reckoning:

Also, I read some post in this swirling maelstrom that suggested Kelly and Brian not be allowed to write another script. That is grossly unfair, and exposes a true lack of understanding of how the whole television process actually works. Kelly and Brian play the story cards they're dealt. They're not the one's shuffling the deck, and to blame them because you don't like how Reckoning played out is just plain wrong. And Vessel? Yes, the rumors of a massive last minute rewrite are true. Actually, there were series of last minute rewrites for a variety of reasons, not the least of which were cutting the guts out of it to get the budget down. And Kelly and Brian were at ground zero, doing what all writers at their level are forced to do: keep their heads down and make the best of it. And I for one think they did an exceptional job under impossible circumstances.

And the infamous Bruce Wayne

At this point, we aren't allowed to use Bruce Wayne, period. Don't see that changing anytime soon.

Thought those comments were pretty interesting.

 

[Serene]

Time and time again I've seen TV writers say that what they write and what actually makes it to the screen is often two completely different animals. But I do wonder who makes the final decisions in what actually airs. I would think Al and Miles, but then I keep hearing that they are/were all involved with the new Aquadude series and weren't as hands-on with SV anymore. So, maybe the individual directors?

NHawk - that's a beautiful avy, btw.

 

[KalKai]

It's good for SV that Aquaman didn't make it, at least they'll be back for Season 6 and hopefully write some episodes. Al & Miles haven't wrote 1 single episode in Season 5, and we need more of these - Pilot, Rosetta, Exile, Crusade, Memoria.

 

[rumpuso]

I haven't been reading any of Steven DeNight's Myspace posts. It sounds like Vessel got a firm lashing from the posters. Is that the gist of it?

 

[Kaboom]

most of what i read on deknights page are pleadings by chlarkers

 

[NHawk19]

yeah the bulk of them are that . . .not to many discussing plot points.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

most of what i read on deknights page are pleadings by chlarkers

Oh for **** sakes are you serious?

 

[avidreader]

Chlarker's mixed in with lots of Clana's and the occasional no Lexana's.

I thought this was pretty funny though. The guy does have a good sense of humour.

Lex and lana and clark and chloe are pointless relationships!!!!!
I want to see....
CLANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lexana it is! Thanks, Elizabeth!

Hahahahahahahahahaha! Oh, that was mean, wasn't it?

 

[TrailerMusic]

It's good for SV that Aquaman didn't make it

It might be a Mid Season Show. Nothing is for sure yet. Unless that changed & I missed the memo ? Thats the last I read on it & also didn't Dean Cain say he is talking to / planning some other Project with Smallvilles Al & Miles ? So obviously if they are not busy with Aquaman they are busy with something else

 

[KalKai]

Mistaken Reports
Articles in The Washington Post and IGN.com have implied that Aquaman is still a contender for midseason placement, and that this was said at the CW Upfronts by entertainment president Dawn Ostroff on May 18.

We don't want to get up any false hopes, but as far as we know at AquamanTV, there are no plans to put the series on at midseason.

-

Cain said he met them once don't know when for another project, it could have been Aquaman, but whatever project it was, don't think it matters anymore. If they were busy with something else apart from Aquaman we would have known.

 

[NHawk19]

Found this little nugget today under the premier when someone asked about freeze breath.

Frayzeee breatathhh -- nope, I sure can't! But it'll be coming up soon...

 

[avidreader]

Found this little nugget today under the premier when someone asked about freeze breath.

Yipee!!

 

[KalKai]

DeKnight is writing the Season Premiere..

No need to bring the scrappy. As of today, yours truly will be writing the premiere. Don't get too excited. I am bound by many masters, not the least of which are budget problems. So when you see the episode and start screaming "Did Deknight even READ any of our posts about what we wanted to see?!!!" rest assured, I read each and every one of them. But much had already been set in motion. A lot of it I agree with. Some of I don't.
Kinda like all these posts!!!
Hahahahahahaha!

 

[BaK]

at this point I don't know if his reading all these posts is gonna make him "explode"..

 

[Brainiac 8]

at this point I don't know if his reading all these posts is gonna make him "explode"..

It might judging by the junk most are writing to him.

 

[triplet]

at this point I don't know if his reading all these posts is gonna make him "explode"..

I think it might, but he did say that he would read them all...

I wouldn't think anyone who is gainfully employed would have that kind of time.

Yikes.

 

[NHawk19]

^^What bothers me is where he says flight is a bank breaker

 

[The Caped Knight]

DeKnight is writing the Season Premiere..

What why isn't Alfred Gough and Miles Millar not writing The Season 6 Premiere

They've always written the season premiere episodes {Exspet for The Season 5 premiere "Arrival"}


DeKnight isn't my favorite writter . Oh GOD {he wrote some good episodes} but he also wrote some very bad episodes .