The Dark Knight Rises Stuff you like to believe happened in Nolan's series

What could have happened to Reese from TDK. I wish they would have explored that more.

 

I would have loved to see Coleman Reese being used in TDKR with the scenario of Wayne losing his money because that's what Reese's job was pretty much about in TDK....keep Bruce rich(in simple terms), so him being an ally and trying to find out how Bane did what he did and then having Bane kill him would've added some closure and some development to Reese from a guy who wanted to reveal the identity of the Batman to someone who became an ally.

But...as for things I would want to believe what happened in the series?

1.) Joker went into a coma-like state sometime during those eight years after finding out Batman went into exile and then wakes up soon after Blake becomes the new Batman.

2.) Blake's first mission as a FULLY-TRAINED Batman is capturing Scarecrow and he succeeds.

3.) Gordon retires and finally makes peace with his wife while Ellen Yindel becomes the new police commissioner.

 

Not to derail the thread, but I think had Heath lived, that's how they would have used the Joker in TDKR. Soon as Bruce makes his return as Batman, the Joker wakes up from his years-long catatonic state, just like how it played out in TDKR graphic novel.

 

I just read this over again and while I know this is something you would have, Batman at least had armor that protected him except for slamming down on his leg without his cape helping him out(in other situations in TDK), but Dent didn't have any protection and that's why the fall broke his neck.

I would have liked that as well, but as someone who was totally fine with the LoS being used and what not, I think I would have just kept Joker being in a catatonic state, even when Batman returns for one, two days tops, it never really happens until Blake becomes Batman...so, realistically, I would have liked that story to be told in form of a graphic novel and Joker wouldn't have to be mentioned at all in TDKR, still, if we're going by Ledger having passed. Joker could have been saved for a graphic novel after Blake's time as Batman.

 

Batman spent 7 years traveling the world and training and lost to scarecrow his first bout with him. There is no way Blake would defeat Scarecrow on his first night out

 

There is when Crane didn't seem like he had his mask or any of his fear gas on him as the judge.

 

Then that's not really Scarecrow

 

You know what I mean

 

As much as I love that Dark Knight Returns idea, I can't see it in this movie verse because I cannot fathom Joker slipping away into a comatose state knowing Gotham is thriving on a lie about Harvey Dent that is stopping him from winning the battle for Gotham's soul.

He wouldn't sit by and not try and do something about that. That was his ace in the hole.

 

Yeah I can agree these are all plausible in a "what if?" factor, we can all assume something like this could've happened especially in the 8 year interim.

 

I like to think that Joker was taken into federal custody after TDK. It makes more sense than him being the only patient in Arkham. I like to think Gotham is a level of Limbo and all the characters are facets of Cobb's personality at different stages in his life.

 

Batman had just been shot wearing a suit that is susceptible to knives and gun fire. I don't think he had time to strategize a non lethal way to stop Dent. I think he acted at the last second out of desperation to save a child.

 

Gotham's White Knight was going to blow an innocent kid's brain out, too.

 

Agreed

and agreed.

 

I like to believe that jakinj's webcomics happened, and that Batman made 9 covert appearances to stop major crime during his absence before he couldn't carry on any further. The "new Batman" isn't required to act very often though, but still gets advice from Bruce from time-to-time.

 

I like to believe that Bruce Wayne's favorite food is nachos. Like after a long night of crime fighting he's like - "Yo, Alfred! Cook up a plate of nachos!"

 

That Selina and Bruce did a sex-tape, as Catwoman and Batman.

 

The way Selina can bend her legs...I bet Bruce would have fun in that sex tape, lol.

 

I like that idea of Joker in a catatonic state like Returns. But only for a portion of the 8 years.

As the years went on after TDK he slowly lost hope in the lie being uncovered, as well as Batman returning. To have it parallel Bruce's story, Joker falls into that catatonic state around the time that Bruce becomes a recluse in Wayne Manor. So the last 3 years before Rises picks up. Would love to think of Harley Quinn as the psychiatrist slowly helping out the Joker before and after this.

I also am a fan of Jakinj's 9 Bat appearance idea (post-tdk). Sometimes i like to believe that some of his pieces were true. Not really the bat-family stuff though.

Im a believer of the 3 year gap between Begins and Knight so my imagination runs wild with that. Batman taking on more mob bosses and henchmen (Penguin, Black Mask, Alberto Falcone, Killer Croc). Leftovers from the previous film (Zsasz, Scarecrow). And inmates from Arkham who broke out (Mad Hatter, Poison Ivy, Ventriloquist).

Then there's Blake. He's gonna battle Joker eventually. You have Riddler, Scarecrow & Freeze as antagonists too.

I like this too. But with Gordon having a fling with Sarah Essen first. They agree to not see each other anymore, he wants to retire and misses his wife and family. He leaves Gotham to work out things with them. Ellen Yindel takes over.

 

How was Batman supposed to save the kid and shoot the grappling gun to save dent and save himself?

 

In no way did the movie imply that he let Dent die, even when paired so closely with the Joker scene.