Superman VS the Hulk

[X]

You want to know what else I always thought about? If The hulk mind was wiped by a physic or something (which would be hard to do but it still could be done) what would really happen? The Hulk literally has hundreds of differant personalitys..guilt, devil, grey, savage, mindless, and other obscure ones like a snake and clown hulk, shown in the recesses of Banners mind once. Wouldent one of them just take over? But if the Devil Hulk was unleashed, the world would literally end. It took the savage hulk, the grey hulk, and the professor just too subdue the guilt hulk....

 

[X]

Remember when Banner commited mental suicide and complety mentally retreated? The Hulk was still able to live without any influence what so ever from Banner, but yeah, once there seperated Hulk does start to die...

 

[Guyverjay]

and they were actually SCARED of him.

 

[War Lord]

Originally posted by Mr. X
You want to know what else I always thought about? If The hulk mind was wiped by a physic or something (which would be hard to do but it still could be done) what would really happen? The Hulk literally has hundreds of differant personalitys..guilt, devil, grey, savage, mindless, and other obscure ones like a snake and clown hulk, shown in the recesses of Banners mind once. Wouldent one of them just take over? But if the Devil Hulk was unleashed, the world would literally end. It took the savage hulk, the grey hulk, and the professor just too subdue the guilt hulk....

The professor is just simply Bruce Banner in control of the Hulk, probably in many ways, the best Hulk. Who wouldn't want to be 9 feet tall, 1000 lbs and have a genius IQ. Forgive me, who is the devil hulk and is it possible that he might really be Hulk's real personality without the mediating influence of Bruce?

 

[X]

Bio's...just because I feel like adding them...

Incarnation: Devil Hulk

Creator(s): Paul Jenkins and Ron Garney
First Appearance: The Incredible Hulk Vol.3 #12
Description: This incarnation has never manifested in the real world, but Banner has met it during his voyages through his subconciouss.

The Devil Hulk is the embodyment of all that's evil, and dark inside of Banner. It is even against all that was good in Banner's life.

The Devil Hulk has the appearance of a demon. His strength and intellect were not yet revealed, but it may be safe to assume that his intellect is like Banner's, a genius.

The Devil Hulk nearly burst free (Banner turned into it) during the days when Bruce was suffering from Amyotropic Lateral Sclerosis (from TIH3 #12 until TIH3 #32). But Banner was able to subdue him. Nevertheless, the Devil Hulk is now free from the "chains" that locked him, and he may come out someday.
Heigth: ~ 10 ft (3 m)
Width: ~ 2,000 lb (907 Kg)
Eyes: Green
Hair: None
Skin: Orange

Incarnation: Guilt Hulk

Creator(s): Paul Jenkins and Ron Garney
First Appearance: The Incredible Hulk Vol.3 #12
Description: This incarnation has never manifested in the real world, but Banner has met it during his voyages through his subconciouss.

The Guilt Hulk represents all the (you guessed it) guilt that Banner felt because he was unable to save his mother's life when his father killed her, a torment that build over the years.

The Devil Hulk has the appearance of a demon, and he is about 20 meters tall. His strength and intellect were not yet revealed, but it is safe to assume that his strenght is greater than the Savage Hulk's (more than 100 tons), and his intellect is like the Mindless Hulk (similar to a primitive man).

The Guilt Hulk nearly burst free (Banner turned into it) during the days when Bruce was suffering from Amyotropic Lateral Sclerosis (from TIH3 #12 until TIH3 #32). But the combined might of the Savage Hulk, the Professor, and the Gray Hulk were able to subdue him. Nevertheless, the Guilt Hulk may come out anyday.
Heigth: ~ 66 ft (20.12 m)
Width: ~ 10,000 lb (4.5 tons)
Eyes: Green
Hair: None
Skin: Green

 

[Guyverjay]

The guilt hulk is scary as hell

 

[War Lord]

Sounds like the guilt hulk is worse than the devil hulk.

Do they have any known powers that the hulk doesn't possess?

 

[Guyverjay]

Not alot is know about the guilt hulk, Only that is is bigger stronger and has a rage unlike any hulk that exists. Plus it took the 3 core hulks to stop him from emerging AND that are all **** scared of him. Considering that the hulk is scared of no one, he must a bad mofo

 

[X]

I cant even begin to imagine...

Remember you said Thanos marched into Asgard and fought Odin? Hulk did the same thing. Called him names the whole time as well... Dont you find it funny how Hulk has a name for everyone? Purple Puss=Thanos...Fish Man=Namor...and so on...

 

[War Lord]

Originally posted by guyverjay
Not alot is know about the guilt hulk, Only that is is bigger stronger and has a rage unlike any hulk that exists. Plus it took the 3 core hulks to stop him from emerging AND that are all **** scared of him. Considering that the hulk is scared of no one, he must a bad mofo

Considering it took practically all of Marvel heroes to tackle the Hulk, when he was split from Bruce, it sounds like nobody less than a celestial could stop him.

 

[X]

If the guilt Hulk has the same rage strength increase, I wouldent count on it...

Check this out...

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by Mr. X
I cant even begin to imagine...

Remember you said Thanos marched into Asgard and fought Odin? Hulk did the same thing. Called him names the whole time as well... Dont you find it funny how Hulk has a name for everyone? Purple Puss=Thanos...Fish Man=Namor...and so on...

Thor = Long hair
Superman= Silly cape man

 

[X]

And all of the Marvel hero's couldent tackle the mindless Hulk, he was Juggernaut'ish, they had to move him to the cross roads. He came close to killing Thor with a adamantium statue. Hulk 300 was so awesome though. Vision made himself 90 tons and hard as a diamond, Hulk just smashed him a couple of hundred feet into the ground, he took on everyone! Luke Cage, Thor, Iron Fist, Scarlet Witch, Namor, Wonder Man, Iron Man, Hercules, Sampson, and just about everyone else...

 

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[Guyverjay]

God damn it I NEED TO PICK THESE UP!!!

 

[War Lord]

That looked like it was a good comic. I liked the way the various Hulks compete against each other.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Remember when Banner commited mental suicide and complety mentally retreated? The Hulk was still able to live without any influence what so ever from Banner, but yeah, once there seperated Hulk does start to die...

No, when was this?

 

[X]

He started losing it in Hulk. vol 2. 295 I believe, then by the time 300 rolled around Nightmare had tortured him bad enough mentally for Banner to commit "mental suicide". He was then sent to the cross roads in ish 300. Sorry if im a little sketchy, recounting all of this off the top of my head...

 

[Bapman]

DAMMIT !!!
I WANT THOSE !!! I WANT I WANT !!!
Any IDEA from where I can get thm ??? n PLEASE don't say comic book store.
I meant... they are not in shelves or anywhere... sooo how can I get thm ???

 

[X]

Uhh, try ebay, or milehighcomics.com...

 

[XFanTim]

I think Superman would beat the Hulk, even though Hulk is probably stronger than Superman when Hulk is mad.

Superman would win because (1) He's faster, and (2) Hulk can't fly. All superman needs to do is grab Hulk before Hulk has a chance to hit him, and chuck him into space. I'm sure Superman has thrown large objects into space before. Hulk would have no way to ever get back down.

As for why Superman lost to Doomsday, I don't know, I didn't read that book (I don't read much D.C.). Can Doomsday fly? If so, maybe the writers made Superman fight stupidly, or maybe they just thought Doomsday was too fast for the trick I'm suggesting to work. I don't know what Doomsday's powers were besides strength and durability.

Speaking of stupid writing, the Marvel vs. D.C. crossover was absolute crap. Several of the fights played out in totally stupid and oversimplified ways, basically with the characters just pounding on each other until someone collapsed (see Hulk v. Superman), or just charging at each other until someone blew up (see Surfer v. Green Lantern), or by rolling around on the freakin' floor (see Wolverine v. Lobo). Plus, while I agree Batman beats Captain America, Batman would win with his *brain*, not by just fighting him to a stand still hand-to-hand and then getting a lucky toss with the batarang. Anyway, I wouldn't base any arguments on that crummy writing.

And yeah, Surfer would destroy Superman easy, by sucking all the energy out of him. You think Superman is only vulnerable to kryptonite? Please.

Edit: Oops, I didn't notice quite how many pages there were on this thread. I guess no one's even talking about Hulk vs. Superman anymore. Oh, well. Supes would still win.]

 

[Spider-Hulk]

Originally posted by guyverjay
God damn it I NEED TO PICK THESE UP!!!

Me too.

You see that, Grey Hulk nearly wet himself when Bruce started walking over to the Guilt Hulk. That just goes to prove how scary the Guilt Hulk must be, if Mr Fixit was afraid of him, he must be a piece of work!

 

[Caleb]

Originally posted by XFanTim
I think Superman would beat the Hulk, even though Hulk is probably stronger than Superman when Hulk is mad.

Superman would win because (1) He's faster, and (2) Hulk can't fly. All superman needs to do is grab Hulk before Hulk has a chance to hit him, and chuck him into space. I'm sure Superman has thrown large objects into space before. Hulk would have no way to ever get back down.

As for why Superman lost to Doomsday, I don't know, I didn't read that book (I don't read much D.C.). Can Doomsday fly? If so, maybe the writers made Superman fight stupidly, or maybe they just thought Doomsday was too fast for the trick I'm suggesting to work. I don't know what Doomsday's powers were besides strength and durability.

Speaking of stupid writing, the Marvel vs. D.C. crossover was absolute crap. Several of the fights played out in totally stupid and oversimplified ways, basically with the characters just pounding on each other until someone collapsed (see Hulk v. Superman), or just charging at each other until someone blew up (see Surfer v. Green Lantern), or by rolling around on the freakin' floor (see Wolverine v. Lobo). Plus, while I agree Batman beats Captain America, Batman would win with his *brain*, not by just fighting him to a stand still hand-to-hand and then getting a lucky toss with the batarang. Anyway, I wouldn't base any arguments on that crummy writing.

And yeah, Surfer would destroy Superman easy, by sucking all the energy out of him. You think Superman is only vulnerable to kryptonite? Please.

Edit: Oops, I didn't notice quite how many pages there were on this thread. I guess no one's even talking about Hulk vs. Superman anymore. Oh, well. Supes would still win.]

Superman didn't lose to Doomsday. It was a tie since they techniquely killed each other. The reason Superman died is because he used too much hand to hand fighting against Doomsday.

 

[X]

You know what, under further review I agree with Superman beating The Professor Hulk in Marvel vs. DC... Superman, as he said himself, was going all out, and even so he barely beat The Professor. Superman said "I gave him everything I had, and he almost took it." Now think about it... The Professor has a fixed strength level, a little bit above class 100 I believe, his skin wasnt anywhere near being invurnable, and he had the mind of Banner. Having the mind of Banner isnt a bad thing, but in a fight against Superman it would be better if the Savage Hulk was running the game mentally. First of all, Banner isnt nearly agressive enough. He doesent take advantage all the time, The Savage Hulk always capitalizes on his enemy's mistakes and takes advantage of there weaknesse's... Not to mention he's a lot more brutal, and would keep going long after the mind of Banner would have quit...

Plus, he would still have the occasionel Banner brilliance occuring to him in the fight. Meaning, if Supes did something which somehow left him open, or made it so something could be taken advantage of, The Savage Hulk would act on it, doing something uncharacter like that was very, very intelligent. And the savage hulk is crafty enough as it is... I personally think this is some of the most conclusive evidence yet that The Hulk could indeed beat Superman...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree that Superman could probably take the Professor Hulk but, as with the Superman/Thor fight, I think the execution was utter BS. Superman beat the Professor with a big blast of heat vision, which is ******ed given the Professor's encounters with the U-Foes. X knows the one I'm talking about in particular and has pictures, I believe.