Superman VS the Hulk

[X]

And my main point with the whole DD thing was he would at first just underestimate The Hulk's strength/speed and try at first going toe to toe with him, I dont think at first he would have the notion of staying out of his reach and using all of his other powers...and then get him angry so it would cancel out Superman trying to take him out fast. And another thing, Superman was shown to have a fear of DD, a fear which held him back from grabbing him before he entered a boom tube,among other thigns, because he was afraid. What do you think fighting The Hulk would be like? Dont you think it would bring back those fears? Make him make a couple of mistakes? Make him afraid? I pretty sure it would...you have to take that variable to mind as well...

 

[Guyverjay]

Nah supes has got over his fear now

 

[Spider-Hulk]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Oh, and another thing I forgot to add earlier. The Hulk has no qualms about fighting dirty if he had too. A couple of examples. In the past when he was fighting Thor, he took a hostage and threatened to kill her unless Thor put his hammer down, Thor did so and The Hulk then got ahold of him, and beat him bad. Also, The Huk was once fighting The Thunderbolts, and decided to break a dam, turning there attention saving the town people's lives. And in a fight with Superman, he wouldent have any problem throwing a bus full of people a mile straight up into the sk, making Superman fly up there and get them, and then jump up and grab Superman and then drive him 150 straight down into the earth up impact. Or collapse a building full of people, diverting his attention to them and then getting his hands on him, allowing for an attack on a vurnable Superman, or take a hostage...I mean, take your pick...I peronally think that would give the Hulk an advantage...having no morale dilema's and all...

Its for those above reasons, why, I reckon that Grey Hulk stands the best chance of beating Superman. Good job X

 

[Guyverjay]

Grey hulk is a murderer

Then again so is superman

Isn't it ironic that mr X hates X-men (I dunno why I just thought of that )?

 

[X]

Yeah, but The Grey Hulk murders with a smile...a big evil grin actually...

And thanks Spider-Hulk...I appreciate it...

And it's the same thing for almost anyone who's ever died in comics, if they come face to face with it again or something similar, I dont care who you are, it's going to invoke some kind of fear. One good example is Wonder Man, I remember when he was fighting The Hulk, and The Hulk got his hand around his head and he said something to the extent of "old fears rising..I can feel it again". Another example, Cyber was one of the only people that ever put fear into Wolverine. Wolverine couldent even remember what exactly it was that Cyber did to him, but he knew it was bad and on a sub-conscious level, he feared him and that affected his performance against him. And hell, even if Superman had never died and fought The Hulk, I still think The Hulk's mere presence and intimidating stature and ability's would come into play...it's kind of like how Mike Tyson used to be.

You could literally see his openants shaking before the bell had even rung...People were afriad of him and it made him all that much better. Im just getting really deep into this discussion though, but If you want to take everything into account and get really into it, then yes, Supermans fear would play some part in a match up between the two. And yes, I know it's a not a piss my pants and cower in a corner fear, Superman would still easily have the courage to fly right up to The Hulk and punch him in the face, but in some way, perhaps even sublimily, the fear, the reluctance, whatever you want to call it would come into play...

 

[X]

Lol, I dont really hate them...there not my favorites but I do like a few on them. The main thing that bugs me is just how over rated some of the characters are, in the eyes of many X Men fans anyway...that and how ****** a lot of the X books have been lately. And heres a secret, my name comes from the old NES game Kung Fu, Mr. X was the last boss, and he was frankly funny as hell. His laugh, mosly. It's also the name of one of Wolverine's newer enemy's, a pretty bad ass one at that...and on top of that I just like the name. Im probably never going to repeat that...so cherish that rare and interesting piece of information!!! Tell story's about it to your kids...your grand kids...and fellow SHH members!!! Man im a Dork...

 

[Spider-Hulk]

Originally posted by guyverjay
Grey hulk is a murderer

Then again so is superman

Isn't it ironic that mr X hates X-men (I dunno why I just thought of that )?

GRRR!!! There you go with that whole Grey Hulk is murderer thing, so what, Glorian was trying to destroy him, he was in league with Satan for pitys sake!!! Glorian was killed by Grey Hulk yes, but he came back to life, and then despite the fact Glorian was trying to destroy the Hulk, Grey Hulk took on Satan to try and save his worthless carcass.

And yes Supes is a murderer too, which just goes to show, that even the best of us have a killer instinct.

 

[Spider-Hulk]

Originally posted by Mr. X
Yeah, but The Grey Hulk murders with a smile...a big evil grin actually...

And thanks Spider-Hulk...I appreciate it...

Grey Hulk is probably the baddest ass in the Marvel Universe, but hes not evil, hes just quite selfish and has little regard for some people round him, but hes not evil.

Although, he does enjoy inflicting pain, and he does have a wicked smile.

 

[gammamega]

Hulk should have no probelm , grey Hulk should beat superman

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by Spider-Hulk
GRRR!!! There you go with that whole Grey Hulk is murderer thing, so what, Glorian was trying to destroy him, he was in league with Satan for pitys sake!!! Glorian was killed by Grey Hulk yes, but he came back to life, and then despite the fact Glorian was trying to destroy the Hulk, Grey Hulk took on Satan to try and save his worthless carcass.

And yes Supes is a murderer too, which just goes to show, that even the best of us have a killer instinct.

Liar


murderer...........merrrrrrrrrrrderrrrrrrrrrrrrrruuuuurrrrrrr

 

[Spider-Hulk]

Originally posted by guyverjay
Liar


murderer...........merrrrrrrrrrrderrrrrrrrrrrrrrruuuuurrrrrrr

No, not a liar, check out the Mr Fixit issues of the Incredible Hulk volume two if you dont believe me.

Hulk is not a muderer, a guy who commited manslaughter, but he didnt actually murder, there is a subtle difference.

 

[Guyverjay]

Murderer

 

[X]

The Grey Hulk has done several things that very easily could of killed people though. Remember when he was in the crowd watching "The Incredible Hulk" wrestler guy? He jumped in and beat the **** out of that guy, and then threw him through the roof...

 

[Varient]

Originally posted by Sentinel
Who will win?

Superman.
Always surprising how folk who geek on Marvel can ignore feats to have there hero win.

*Sonic slap/clap stunning superman? Please,.. it's air. The only time sound has bothered him was when it was mystical.

Speed? Please,.. Thor has punched "faster" than the Hulk when those two have fought,.... The Thing has punched faster when he as fought the Hulk. Superman was fast enough to knock up and slap down Thor 1.0 in the begining of the battle between the two.

Strength? Consider,.. if there was a story written about Thor and the Hulk fighting for days,.... How could any of you pro hulkers believe that the Hulk could survive the sort of beating Supes gave Thor?

This is just another thread on the scale of "Spiderman versus God."


stupid in folk believing that the Hulk could beat Superman,.... Heck, Mr. Fixit is DOCUMENTED to be weaker than any of the green hulk versions, yet sumbody here thinks he has a chance against Superman?

 

[Guyverjay]

Originally posted by Varient
Superman.
Always surprising how folk who geek on Marvel can ignore feats to have there hero win.

How can it ALWAYS be surprising? Take your head out of your ass and lets not turn this into another lame ass marvel vs DC row

*Sonic slap/clap stunning superman? Please,.. it's air. The only time sound has bothered him was when it was mystical.

Tell that to nightwing

Speed? Please,.. Thor has punched "faster" than the Hulk when those two have fought,.... The Thing has punched faster when he as fought the Hulk. Superman was fast enough to knock up and slap down Thor 1.0 in the begining of the battle between the two.

Yeah it documented when they fight: its got grim saying look hulk I punch faster than you Hulk punches at mach 3:. The figfhst you mention happened a long time ago, characters change

Strength? Consider,.. if there was a story written about Thor and the Hulk fighting for days,....

I have no clue where you're getting the fight for days from (unless I missed it). I know they had a hugging contest where they just stood there holding each other for days. Not exactly the same thing is it?

How could any of you pro hulkers believe that the Hulk could survive the sort of beating Supes gave Thor?

Because hulk has the most powerful regeneration/healing factor in the marvel u? His durability gets higher (along with his strength) the madder he becomes? Does thor have any of this ? how about no. Plus crossovers suck ass and that fight was complete crap. What a conicidence that thor never used his godforce?. Btw I'd hardy call it a beating, unless you think that ONE punch (just shows how ******ed that fight was) that put down thor would put down the hulk?.What did supes say afer the fight? Oh yeah he said that thor was the single most toughest opponent he's ever faced. In fcat he was so tired that he got ass raped by the rest of the avengers afterwards

This is just another thread on the scale of "Spiderman versus God."

This is just another case of Superman fan arrogance *reads variants sig* Oh I see

stupid in folk believing that the Hulk could beat Superman,.... Heck, Mr. Fixit is DOCUMENTED to be weaker than any of the green hulk versions, yet sumbody here thinks he has a chance against Superman?

Weaker because he's got a lower BASE strength and is slower to anger. but he still has "the madder hulk gets the stronger hulk becomes" so saying he's the weakest doesn't mean a whole lot. Professor was the weakest, he is the slowest to anger and turns into savage banner. Fixit destroyed an asteroid TWICE the size of earth with ONE punch. He still took an uppercut from Cosmic spider-man that put him into orbit without a scratch If he's the weakest I hate to see what the strongest could do

That said I think supes would beat Hulk because of his speed and his speed alone. Don't disrepect the hulk because super speed is the only think that would stop hulk from plastering superman all over the side walk

 

[X]

I just read The Hulk vs. Superman, and The Hulk had no problem keeping up with Superman's super speed. Superman charged (flew actually) towards The Hulk, and The Hulk went to punch him, Superman evaded the first one barely, and then before he could react The Hulk punched him and sent him flying a couple of hundred feet through a store. Then Superman thought.."time to lay down the law", and he flew up behind The Hulk and got his hands around on. Before he could do anything else, the Hulk whacked him, into outer space. In there second fight, Superman really let loose and gave The Hulk everything he had. And this is after The Hulk fought a Hulk clone robot costing millions of dollars, created by Lex Luthor. The Hulk still went toe to toe with him. Superman also said "He's not only big, he's fast! And strong! Stronger then anyone Iv ever gone up against!". Superman has been up against people much stronger physically then himself, so that seems to signify The Hulk is physically stronger then him.

Anyways, back to there second fight. The Hulk had no problem getting ahold of Superman when he was airborn, and they both flell quite a distance. Superman then said "That...actually came close to knocking the wind out of me!" Do I dare hope The Hulk took it harder? No such Luck". And The Hulk had a harder fall, and recovered faster. In the end Luthor shoots Banner's giant gamma ray gun at Superman and The Hulk, and it causes extreme pain in both of them. The Hulk takes it better then Superman though, and Superman helps The Hulk jump away, The Hulk then destroys the machine. I personally think it was shown that The Hulk is not only stronger then Superman, but tougher. Superman still has the speed though, and still isnt weak by any means. He still has the strength to hurt The Hulk, I was just saying...Oh, and the big kicker is that this was Pre-Crisis Superman.......I hope that that clears everything up, specifically how a real Superman vs. The Hulk matchup would and should go...

 

[Guyverjay]

Pffft crossovers mean jack

 

[X]

Eh...whatever you say Guyverjay...

 

[ohwattagosiam]

Superman is strong, but the Hulk has held/braced (whatever) 150 BILLION tons before now in Secret Wars. That's gotta be in the same ballpark as Pre-Crisis Supes? Post-Crisis, Supe's not in the same league as the Hulk when it comes to strength, nor in durability when Hulk's pi$$ed.

What good is super-speed when he'd be using ALL his energy just trying to knock the Hulk on his butt. The fight would go on for ages and Supes would tire. Also, no one can just casually dismiss the Hulks sonic hand clap. It has hurt/stunned real strong people, and has caused a lot of damage.

Finally, just like the Supes/Juggernaut thread I can't see Supes actually BEATING the Hulk, only inconviencing him.

 

[X]

Hulk's thunder clap has been described as producing shock waves that "put to shame the most powerful hurricanes in the history of the planet". He also deflected Nightcrawlers sonics before with a thunder clap and destroyed an entire cosmos where a teleporting race of people lived as well...

 

[Caleb]

The Hulk is lucky that Superman isn't a killer. Otherwise he could just hurl the Hulk into space and end the fight in the span of a fastball pitch. In fact, Superman could beat just about anyone like this.

 

[Guyverjay]

Except people who can survive in space and can fly


Btw Superman IS a killer

 

[Caleb]

I know, he is. But what I mean is he doesn't make a habit of it like Spawn or Punisher. He doesn't like to kill.

 

[Varient]

Originally posted by guyverjay
That said I think supes would beat Hulk because of his speed and his speed alone. Don't disrepect the hulk because super speed is the only think that would stop hulk from plastering superman all over the side walk

Not gonna stoop and get personal on you like you did on me:
I'll just say that it's a cop out to say that I've disrespected the hulk simply becuase I've pointed out that weaker characters have punched faster than he, that Superman is more durable, has taken more punishment then your regeneration/invulnerability and come back to win.

I've read for years and have a feel for feats,... the hulk cannot beat the current version of Superman,... period.

BTW,.. explain what Nightwing has to do with using a "thunderclap" against superman?

BTW2,... There was a comic where the Hulk and Thor had a throw down that tore up the landscape up north for weeks before the US government decided to try to end it by dropping nukes on them. Think it was the Maistro one shot.

BTW3,... So becuase I'm saying what I am about this fight, (After going on about Surfer Whooping on Superman in a previous thread.), you want to get personal with me?

Whatever.

 

[War Lord]

Originally posted by guyverjay
Except people who can survive in space and can fly


Btw Superman IS a killer

When did Superman kill somebody?