The Dark Knight TDK Casting Sides

[regwec]

Hahah! Now for a game of regwreck.

 

[SilentType]

Did you make that? It's hilarious.

long ago.



Do you think these sides will actually be in the movie, or do you think they were written just for the audition process? I'm not willing to pin much on the sides, except perhaps the overall tone.

 

[Miranda Fox]

long ago.







Do you think these sides will actually be in the movie, or do you think they were written just for the audition process? I'm not willing to pin much on the sides, except perhaps the overall tone.

Wow, great job!

I feel pretty much the same as you - some of the scenarios hinted at will probably be in the film (ex. the ferry boats and the mall), as there is actual evidence to those things happening, but I really think overall, situations will play out differently. The dialogue, I really think, will be far more polished at the very least.

Hahah! Now for a game of regwreck.

No! SHH Bingo dammit!

 

[regwec]

They are possibly scraps of a very early draft- read into that what you will. Whole scenes could survive, or be lost altogether.

 

[Miranda Fox]

They are possibly scraps of a very early draft- read into that what you will. Whole scenes could survive, or be lost altogether.

Agreed. Look at how different the original BB script was to the finished product.

 

[Crooklyn]

No! SHH Bingo dammit!

Couple this with 'Guardball', these 2 masterpieces just show that this board...














...really needs more news. Please Nolan. See what we've been lowered to?

 

[Miranda Fox]

Couple this with 'Guardball', these 2 masterpieces just show that this board...














...really needs more news. Please Nolan. See what we've been lowered to?

Jealous.

 

[regwec]

I'd settle for a picture of The Joker's shoes. It's all about the spats.

 

[SilentType]

I'd settle for a picture of The Joker's shoes. It's all about the spats.

 

[Dark Knight]

I have a feeling this series may have some aspects on No Mans Land in it. That would be awesome!

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Really, how are you gonna spend the next 6 months before they release something from the movie? And it will probably be an image of Oldman and Eckhart sitting and talking.

 

[Ryan227]

^Even a press release with the full cast and crew should be released soon, at least that would give us something to look at and speculate on.

 

[The Guard]

Should I turn to in your face insults such as "self-*****iating"?

You've already turned to in your face insults. Many times.

That´s what you mean with "not belittling" anyone?

You are aware that "******iating" and "self-******iating" are concepts that are used in society, right? When someone talks about their own work for no particular reason but to list th eir accomplishments, it can be considered self-******iating.

How is me saying you were self-******iating belittling? It's an observation. Do you consider being called on doing something like that in a debate belittling Would you prefer me to say "tooting your own horn"? Is that more appropriate?

Where´s the insult in saying I´m not crazy about your writing? It´s an opinion.

I don't know that there is an insult inherent there or not, and I don't particularly care, outside the context of this discussion, whether you like my writing or not. What I care about is, and what is insulting, is that you seem incapable of debating me without resorting to personal attacks.

Should Nolan and Goyer feel it as an insult that you don´t like their writing.

I don't know. Does it matter? I doubt Nolan and Goyer care how I critique their writing. But imagine if, in some paralell world, Nolan and Goyer had invested time in having a discussion with me, and I resorted to insults rather than making actual points about their writings (which, btw, I have done whenever I critique their writing or movies), they might care, yes. Unless they are psychopaths...are they psychopaths?

And once again, I never said the writing was all bad. I said that I personally found it unimpressive, and that there are a few places I didn't like at all.

I can´t find links now, but if you want me to be specific, I saw samples of your fictions and the dialogue in there mostly felt to me as or more bland, mundane and flat as you accuse this of being. So much I can´t actually remember the specifics of the content.

That's not specific at all. I could say that about any author in the world without even reading anything he or she had written, and my opinion would be unproven on any level, and wouldn't have much weight at all.

The intention was to communicate things I don´t like about how you express yourself, so from my POV, at least, they were productive.

That doesn't mean they weren't insulting, or unneccessary.

Given that it doesn´t feel nearly as repetitive and boring to me as it does to you, all that is a moot argument anyway. The lines feel to me mostly not so much as attempts to witty zingers as things that, I feel, are right for the purpose of the scenes in the story and what such characters might say. The story doesn´t seem boring in the least to me, neither does the dialogue that communicates it. That´s your problem, not mine.

Agreed. It is indeed my point of view, and not liking the writing style and quality is my issue. Is there any particular reason you have so much of a problem with me saying I don't like something about a piece of writing? Is there any particular reason you felt the need to make a personal "attack" on me? Has SHH now become BATMAN ON FILM where everyone must agree with a hive-like mentality?

The Guard's prematurely judgmental attitude has made him look like a fool more than once. I distinctly remember arguing with him when he was making a big deal about the 'inappropriateness' of Wayne Enterprises manufacturing military equipment

The comic book Bruce Wayne would likely loathe the idea of his company producing military weapons, as he loathes (and even, in many versions, fears) guns. I have seen issues where he tells Fox and other business partners he wants nothing to do with weapons, etc. And yes, back when BATMAN BEGINS was in production, I stated, before the script came out I believe...that I found it odd that no one questioned Wayne Enterprises being militarized, and Bruce just possibly being ok with it. And lo and behold, when the movie arrived, someone put a line in that says "I don't believe Thomas Wayne would view heavy arms manufacture as a suitable cornerstone for our business". So someone was paying attention when they read years upon years of Batman comics, and made a nod to that aspect. I made a simple statement that I didn't think Wayne Enterprises should produce weapons. Sue me for caring a bout the comic book characters and their relevance applied to film. And this is my "judgemental attitude" making me look like a fool? Eye of the beholder, I guess.

and crying foul about how the Tumbler crushing the police patrol car outside Arkham killed or severely injured the two cops inside, one of many points we debated about before the film was released. I actually got a laugh in the theater seeing many such 'problems' Guard had with the BB script properly addressed in the final cut of the film.

And I still care that he RAN OVER A POLICE CAR IN THE FIRST PLACE, regardless of the outcome. It's still seems incredibly out of character. I must be the only Batman fan who cares that they showed Batman running over a police car in a tank. I also still care that he dropped bombs in front of a police car. These aspects don't ruin the movie for me, and I can appreciate the effects that go into the sequences...but I think it's a bit "off" as far as Batman goes.

On a side note, even though some may deem it a bit harsh or even uncalled for, 'self-falatiating' is actually very much an appropriate term for The Guard's tirades around this place, especially on the basis of the countless (and seemingly endless) arguments I've had with him prior to BB's release. I have seen him tout and hint at his 'superior' fan-scripts and writing skills more than once.

When? In the five years I've been here, since I do write, I'm sure that I HAVE said to people that people seem to like my writing? I certainly have. Who cares? I have not generally spoken in such a way, except to defend myself against ridiculous attempts to undermine by credibility when people go "Well, you're a bad writer, so you can't judge or analyze anything anyone else writes!"

I'm going to have to 'word' this one.

It's nothing particularly personal against Guard, but saying the Joker is most definitely being wrongly portrayed based on those sides is pretty ridiculous (and before anyone starts, I was happy over the 'laugh' because there were people who, in all seriousness, kept saying the Joker wouldn't laugh. Maybe it is incredibly premature to say they got NOLOWNED but damn, that was one of the most annoying quibbles I ever saw and it was cool to at least see one stupid nitpick bulldozed).

Umm, I never said that the Joker has been wrongly portrayed here. I never said a word that indicated that. I've not said anyone has been wrongly portrayed. Only that the dialogue didn't really impress me.

 

[Miranda Fox]

Umm, I never said that the Joker has been wrongly portrayed here. I never said a word that indicated that. I've not said anyone has been wrongly portrayed. Only that the dialogue didn't really impress me.

*puzzled* Actually now I've just rechecked, no, you didn't. I completely mixed you up with someone else. Full apologies about that.

 

[ultimatefan]

You've already turned to in your face insults. Many times.



You are aware that "******iating" and "self-******iating" are concepts that are used in society, right? When someone talks about their own work for no particular reason but to list th eir accomplishments, it can be considered self-******iating.

How is me saying you were self-******iating belittling? It's an observation. Do you consider being called on doing something like that in a debate belittling Would you prefer me to say "tooting your own horn"? Is that more appropriate?



I don't know that there is an insult inherent there or not, and I don't particularly care, outside the context of this discussion, whether you like my writing or not. What I care about is, and what is insulting, is that you seem incapable of debating me without resorting to personal attacks.



I don't know. Does it matter? I doubt Nolan and Goyer care how I critique their writing. But imagine if, in some paralell world, Nolan and Goyer had invested time in having a discussion with me, and I resorted to insults rather than making actual points about their writings (which, btw, I have done whenever I critique their writing or movies), they might care, yes. Unless they are psychopaths...are they psychopaths?

And once again, I never said the writing was all bad. I said that I personally found it unimpressive, and that there are a few places I didn't like at all.



That's not specific at all. I could say that about any author in the world without even reading anything he or she had written, and my opinion would be unproven on any level, and wouldn't have much weight at all.



That doesn't mean they weren't insulting, or unneccessary.



Agreed. It is indeed my point of view, and not liking the writing style and quality is my issue. Is there any particular reason you have so much of a problem with me saying I don't like something about a piece of writing? Is there any particular reason you felt the need to make a personal "attack" on me? Has SHH now become BATMAN ON FILM where everyone must agree with a hive-like mentality?



The comic book Bruce Wayne would likely loathe the idea of his company producing military weapons, as he loathes (and even, in many versions, fears) guns. I have seen issues where he tells Fox and other business partners he wants nothing to do with weapons, etc. And yes, back when BATMAN BEGINS was in production, I stated, before the script came out I believe...that I found it odd that no one questioned Wayne Enterprises being militarized, and Bruce just possibly being ok with it. And lo and behold, when the movie arrived, someone put a line in that says "I don't believe Thomas Wayne would view heavy arms manufacture as a suitable cornerstone for our business". So someone was paying attention when they read years upon years of Batman comics, and made a nod to that aspect. I made a simple statement that I didn't think Wayne Enterprises should produce weapons. Sue me for caring a bout the comic book characters and their relevance applied to film. And this is my "judgemental attitude" making me look like a fool? Eye of the beholder, I guess.



And I still care that he RAN OVER A POLICE CAR IN THE FIRST PLACE, regardless of the outcome. It's still seems incredibly out of character. I must be the only Batman fan who cares that they showed Batman running over a police car in a tank. I also still care that he dropped bombs in front of a police car. These aspects don't ruin the movie for me, and I can appreciate the effects that go into the sequences...but I think it's a bit "off" as far as Batman goes.



When? In the five years I've been here, since I do write, I'm sure that I HAVE said to people that people seem to like my writing? I certainly have. Who cares? I have not generally spoken in such a way, except to defend myself against ridiculous attempts to undermine by credibility when people go "Well, you're a bad writer, so you can't judge or analyze anything anyone else writes!"

I'm going to have to 'word' this one.



Umm, I never said that the Joker has been wrongly portrayed here. I never said a word that indicated that. I've not said anyone has been wrongly portrayed. Only that the dialogue didn't really impress me.

So, making a criticism on your writing, which is the exact same thing you´re doing on the writing mentioned on this thread, is insulting and personal attack but using gross and juvenile imaggery to refer to simple facts I was stating about myself isn´t? You used a very rude term to make me sound arrogant, that´s very much the concept of being insulting.

Again, I have no idea how giving an opinion on writing that someone makes public online and is subject to criticism as well as compliment has any insulting elements. To express problems I have with your way of posting is also criticism, I have no idea where the insult in that is. I never called you an idiot or bastard or made any rude comments on your private life - which the suggestion of "self-*****iating" fits right in. Like I said, I think it´d be interesting to debate with you if just your attitude was a bit different. Since you prefer to believe the problem is my "insulting" ways, there´s sadly nothing I can do.

But you know what? Who cares, really? Life right now is too damng good to waste with arguing with someone whose opinion I care less and less about every day. You like, you don´t like, screw it. I have A LOT of better things to do. You said nobody has to read your posts, and you´re right, as of now I won´t read them anymore.

 

[Aquaman]

Sure, I'm probably going to come off sounding like a liar but either way....

My dad is a personal trainer in Illinois and one of his clients is an actor. He was telling my dad that not too long ago he got to try out for several parts for a movie filming in Chicago that had some weird name ( I assume Rory's First Kiss), but it turns out it was The Dark Knight. He didn't get any of the parts but they did seem to like him, so he's hoping maybe it'll help him out in the future. One of the roles was that of a bank teller who gets shot by the Joker.

 

[saginaw]

Does anyone have login info for this website: http://www.sidesexpress.com

I came across it looking for some of the other sides and fond more then what you guys showed. But I cant get on there.

Miranda, anything?

--Sags

 

[superglowy]

Does anyone have login info for this website: http://www.sidesexpress.com

I came across it looking for some of the other sides and fond more then what you guys showed. But I cant get on there.

Miranda, anything?

--Sags

U sure it wouldn't just be the same sides we already have?!?

 

[saginaw]

Is this one a new one? I don't remember it in the last ones.

 

[Miranda Fox]

Is this one a new one? I don't remember it in the last ones.

It's not new. I'm pretty sure those at sidesexpress will be the same ones, sadly.

 

[saginaw]

I missed it last time it was posted. But what about these. Never saw both either.






I cant wait till 2008.

 

[Anjow1060]

Something tells me those are doctored sides.........


but it's def. something I have NOT see yet.

Can someone with a higher post count confirm this?

 

[mad-sci]

Okay, that 2nd one is DEFINITELY new (IF true!) and reveals a HELL of a lot more about TDK than any of the other sides combined.


This had better not be an April Fool's joke...


Thing is, the first one is definitely genuine (came out with the other sides). This new one, otoh, matches the 'design' of the others (but can be copied). Who knows?

 

[Anjow1060]

Only reason I raise doubt is because I remember seeing quite a legit "looking" scan of a call sheet for BB with "Brandon Routh" listed as "C. Kent"

 

[mad-sci]

There's things FOR and AGAINST the side's authenticity.

FOR:-

The design matches previous sides, down to the codenames AND marker points.

The 1st 2 sides posted are 100% genuine, not made up.

AGAINST:-

It's April 1st

It could be WB's way of having fun with the fans.

In the original sides list, there's no single casting side for 'Thug', only 'Cop/Thug' and 'Detective/Fat Thug'.

The poster of the sides has been a member since May 2006, but only posted 8 times (no offence to saginaw, but the rules in forums are to trust no-one).



There's a lot AGAINST the sides validity, but who knows?