Technically, there is no "Final Confrontation" the way people seem to be thinking, is that Joker dies. That's not the case. It's pretty clear what happens to him, but theres always that miniscule iota of doubt.
I don't want to start a new thread, (I know how bad people get when one is started without cause), but Hot Toys have recently had their TDK figs on display at a toy show in Japan, and for their Bruce Wayne scuplt they had half of it facing away.
Apparently the show had a call from Warner the day before saying they could not show the right half of Brucie's face!
Does it get damaged? Has this already been covered?
interesting, I doubt Bruce's face gets injured... what's your source? maybe it's from the time before they revealed the new suit... or perhaps they're wrong and it's Dent's sculpture actually...
ok.....read that Dark Knight Plot Outline thing.....but according to that.....[BLACKOUT]the next movie will be about Two-Face.....meaning that Dent doesn't really die???[/BLACKOUT]
In many reviews it states Two-Face dies when he shots Maroni's driver which causes the car to flip and explode. What makes me believe this is the fact that this scene can be seen in t.v. spot #15. Also I thought Joker vanishes and isn't caught...
In many reviews it states Two-Face dies when he shots Maroni's driver which causes the car to flip and explode. What makes me believe this is the fact that this scene can be seen in t.v. spot #15. Also I thought Joker vanishes and isn't caught...
I don't know what reviews you are referring to, but
Two-Face dies in a confrontation with Batman on the roof of Gordon's apartment building when Batman stops him from shooting Gordon's son and Two-Face falls to his death. This is after the scene with Maroni. And as for The Joker, Batman leaves him hanging upside down from a building for the police to take into custody.
In many reviews it states Two-Face dies when he shots Maroni's driver which causes the car to flip and explode. What makes me believe this is the fact that this scene can be seen in t.v. spot #15. Also I thought Joker vanishes and isn't caught...
In an interview Roberts said the character is killed and I think it is safe to assume he is. At any rate he does not appear anymore in the movie after that.
In the scene we've seen so much in trailers of Bruce being emo in the Penthouse, is that
the subsequent scene after Rachel dies? Or is his apparent upset there over something else?
Also, can someone elaborate on the triangle between Bruce/Rachel/Harvey. I know there is a kiss between Rachel and Bruce-- but is she ever actually with Bruce in the film or simply dating Harvey?
I have heard rumors she is pregnant? Or possibly engaged? Does this tie in with the 'secret' Alfred holds from Bruce?
I have a question....does anyone know where the whole Batpod/semi/"hit me!" sequence fits chronologically into the movie? Some have said it's approximately halfway through the film, and isn't the final Batman/Joker confrontation, but others have said it is. Anyone clear this up?
quote=bkey;13252991]****WARNING**** LOTS OF SPOILERS
DON'T READ IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED
Someone recommended that this thread be started, to round up all the info that is known about the movie so far. This is everything I can remember right now. I'm sure there is a lot more info that can be added, and some of the accuracy might be a tad off, as I have added some of my own assumptions. Feel free to add any new info, and discuss the plot and scenes that we know are in the movie so far.
-Wayne Manor is being rebuilt; Bruce Wayne and Alfred are staying in a penthouse suite. Batman keeps the tumbler, his suit and equipment and a computer terminal in an underground garage.
-The Joker is the main villain. His first scene, which is also the opening scene of the movie, is a bank robbery where he and his goons wear clown masks. The goons begin taking each other out, under instructions by the Joker, in order to get larger shares of the money. It turns out that the bank is a mob bank, and the money belongs to the Falcone family. The Bank Manager (played by William Fichtner) tries to stop the thugs, but is shot by the Joker. He escapes on a stolen school bus.
-Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart) is the new District Attorney. He is seen as Gothams white knight. He is alsomdating Rachel Dawes.
-Bruce Wayne is up to his playboy millionaire antics. At one point in the movie he throws a party on his private yacht for the cast of an Opera, closing the show for the night.
-Salvatore Maroni (Eric Roberts) is the new head of the Falcone family. There are gang wars ensuing the streets of Gotham City including Maronis gang, a Chechen gang, and a mob lead by a man named Gambol (Michael Jai White). Joker meets with the various gang leaders at some point in the movie, demanding that they kill Batman in return for half of their stolen money. After one of the mobsters criticizes The Joker, he slams the goons head onto a pencil.
-Vigilantes, disguising themselves as Batman, their hero, patrol the streets of Gotham. They attempt to break up a confrontation between a Chechen gang and Scarecrow early on in the movie. The Chechens release attack dogs on the Vigilantes, who must be rescued by the Batman. Scarecrow tries to escape in a white van, but is also captured by Batman.
-Dent wants to stop the gang wars in Gotham and put an end to organized crime. To mount a case against Maroni he needs to bring an extradited accountant from Hong Kong named Lau (Chin Han), who has connections with Maroni, to Gotham. Batman travels to Hong Kong (as Bruce Wayne) with Lucius Fox in order to bring Lau to Gotham.
-Dent works closely with Lt. Jim Gordon and Batman, in order to stop Maroni and the organized crime in Gotham City.
-At some point, Harvey Dent announces that he is Batman at a press conference.
-Bruce Wayne throws a party for at his penthouse suite. Harvey Dent and Rachel are present. The Joker and his goons crash it, trying to kill Dent. Batman intervenes, but the Joker ends up kidnapping Rachel, threatening her with her at knife point, Batman intervenes, but the Joker gets the upper hand due to his goons. The Joker throws Rachel out of a window but she does not die.
-Reporter/radio/talk show host named Mike Engel (Anthony Michael Hall) hires a man named Reese (Joshua Harto) to dig up information on Bruce Wayne. Reese breaks into the applied sciences sector of Wayne Enterprises and somehow discovers Batmans true identity. Engel announces he will reveal the identity on his evening program. Not to be out of the limelight, Joker makes a bomb threat to the TV station, causing the program to be cancelled. Reese must be escorted out of the station. Lucius Fox somehow blackmails him into not revealing the identity to anyone else. The Joker also uses Mike Engel to broadcast an eerie television message.
-Tired of all the vigilantes running around Gotham, and wanting to find the real Batman, Joker kidnaps their leader and, after interrogating him on camera, hangs him from a flag pole outside the mayors office with a Joker card pinned into his chest with a knife. On the card it reads, Will the real Batman please stand up. Harvey Dent is making a proclamation of a crime-free 18 months in Gotham to Mayor Anthony Garcia (Nester Carbonell) when the wind blows the dead body into the window of the mayor's office. Once the police take the body down, they see that a smile has been cut into the dead mans face, and it has been painted white, with red around the lips.
-Batman/Bruce Wayne is struggling with falling into his persona, and juggling both the life of Batman and Bruce Wayne. He is seen doing more detective work this time around. He also gets a new suit before he goes to Hong Kong, due to the nature of the mission.
-Lt. Gordon (Gary Oldman) fakes his own death. His wife, Barbara (Melinda McGraw) is notified about his death by Detective Stephens (Keith Szarabajka). Gordon's son, James, Jr. is in the movie, portrayed by Nathan Gamble.
-Eventually Maroni and other gang leaders are rounded up and arrested by Batman, and SWAT squads led by Gordon. Maroni is in a night club with two mistresses (Sarah Jayne Dunn and Kerri Parker) when Batman breaks in and takes him.
-The Joker burns all of the mobs money in front of the Chechen Leader (Richie Coster)
-Due to the information learned from Lau, Dent is able to prosecute Maroni. During the trial, while one of Maronis associates, a man named Al Rossi (Michael Vieau), is on the stand, a gun is pulled out on Dent, but misfires.
-At some point, the Joker and some of his goons are arrested. Batman interrogates the Joker, and ends up beating him up. The Joker escapes by the use of a bomb planted in the stomach of one of his goons.
-Joker kills Commissioner Loeb by poisoning his wine and Judge Surrillo by a car bombing. This leads Gordon to be named as Commissioner.
-At Loeb and Surrillos funeral, the Joker (disguised as a cop) makes an assassination attempt on the mayor. The mayor does in fact die.
-Detective Stephens and Detective Ramirez (Monique Curnen) are cops loyal to who share scenes with Lt. Gordon.
-The Joker kidnaps both Harvey Dent and Rachel Dawes. He places them into two separate warehouses, and gives Batman the addresses to both. He must choose who to save. Batman goes after Rachel and sends Gordon to find Dent. However, when Batman arrives he finds the Joker lied and he is where Dent is. Gordon arrives late to Rachel, the warehouse explodes, and she is killed. Half of Dents face is now burnt as well.
-Dent is then sent to the hospital. Trying to finish Dent off, the Joker, disguised as a nurse, blows up the hospital, he also talks to Dent, now Two Face as he lies in his hospital bed.. Dent is somehow able to escape. $3CÖg> -There is a chase scene involving the Bat mobile afd the Joker in a semi-truck. The Batpod emerges from the Tumbler, and Batman uses it for at least part of the chase.
- Officer Berg (Matt Shallenberger) tries to kill the Joker, after his wife is killed in the hospital explosion, but is stopped by Gordon.
Dent, now scarred, confronts Maroni. He flips his coin to determine whether to kill Maroni or not. The flip determines that Maroni will live for the time being, but his driver is not so lucky. Maroni is later killed, as his limo now has no driver. Dent also makes an appearance at a bar where he confronts Detective Wuertz (Ron Dean).
-The Joker causes much chaos in Gotham, and makes a threat forcing all of Gotham to evacuate onto huge barges. The criminals are on one barge, while the many citizens of Gotham City are on the other. Joker announces that there are bombs on both barges, with the triggers for both bombs on the barges themselves. The people are the barges are timed, and must find the triggers and decide to blow up their own ship or the other ship, or both will be destroyed when the time runs out. Mush chaos ensues. Eventually, a tattooed prisoner (Tiny Lister) takes matters into his own hands and destroys the barge with the prisoners on it, sacrificing himself and the other prisoners to save the lives of other. This culminates to the final showdown between Joker and Batman.
-Batman and the Joker fight throughout the empty streets of Gotham, and eventually apprehends the Joker, hanging from the side of the building to be taken into custody by the police.
-Two Face, thinking that Gordon is partly responsible for Rachels death, goes after him. He kidnaps Gordons wife and son. He is about to flip a coin to see whether to kill or not when Batman intervenes. Two Face ends up falling off of a building, killing him.
After Harvey Two Faces funeral, Batman takes the credit for all of Two Faces killings. This forces the GDP after him and puts him on the run.
Cast:
Christian Bale-Bruce Wayne/Batman
Heath Ledger-The Joker
Aaron Eckhart-Harvey Dent
Michael Caine-Alfred Pennyworth
Maggie Gyllenhaal-Rachel Dawes
Gary Oldman-Lt. James Gordon
Morgan Freeman-Lucius Fox
Monique Curnen-Detective Ramirez
Ron Dean-Detective Wuertz
Cillian Murphy-Scarecrow
Chin Han-Lau
Nester Carbonell-Mayor Anthony Garcia
Eric Roberts-Salvatore Maroni
Ritchie Coster-The Chechen
Anthony Michael Hall-Mike Engel
Keith Szarabajka-Detective Stephens
Colin McFarlane-Commissioner Loeb
Joshua Harto-Reese
Melinda McGraw-Barbara Gordon
Nathan Gamble-James Gordon, Jr.
Michael Vieau-Al Rossi
Michael Stoyanov-Dopey
William Smiley-Happy
Danny Goldring-Grumpy
Michael Jai White-Gambol
Matthew O'Neil-Chuckles
William Fichtner-Gotham National Bank Manager
Lumiji Olawumi-Drug Dealer
Gregory Beam-Drug Buyer
Erik Hellman-Junkie
Beatrice Rosen-Natascha
Vincenzo Nicoli-Mob Boss
Edison Chen-LSI VP
Nydia Rodriguez Terracina-Judge Surrillo
Andy Luther-Brian Douglas
James Farruggio-Man #1
Tom McElroy-Man #2
Will Zahrn-Assistant D.A
James Fierro-Thug at Party
Patrick Leahy-Gentleman at Party
Sam Derence-Male Guest
Jennifer Knox-Female Guest
Patrick Clear-Judge Freel
Sarah Jayne Dunn-Maronis Mistress
Chucky Venice-Gambols Bodyguard
Winston Ellis-Gator
David Dastmalchian-Jokers Thug
Sophia Hinshelwood-Reporter
Keith Kupferer-Heckler
Joseph Luis Caballero-Cop Heckler
Richard Dillane-Acting Commissioner
Daryl Satcher-Cop at Intersection
Chris Petschler-Convoy Leader
Aidan Feore-Fat Thug
Philip Bulcock-Detective Murphy
Paul Birchard-Cop with Fat Thug
Walter Lewis-Medic
Vincent Riotta-Cop at 250 52nd St.
Nancy Crane-Nurse
K. Todd Freeman-Polk
Matt Shallenberger-Officer Berg
Michael Andrew Gorman-Cop at Hospital
Lanny Lutz-Bartender
Peter Defaria-Civilian
Matt Rippy-First Mate
Andrew Bicknell-Prison Ferry Pilot
Ariyon Bakare-Guard Commander
Doug Ballard-Businessman
Helene Wilson-Mother
Tommy Campbell-Passenger #1
Craig Heaney-Passenger #2
Lorna Gayle-Passenger #3
Lisa McAllister-Passenger #4
Peter Brooke-Passenger #5
Joshua Rollins-SWAT Sniper
Dale Rivera-SWAT Leader
Matthew Leitch-Prisoner on Ferry
Tommy Tiny Lister-Huge Tattooed Prisoner
William Armstrong-Evans
Adam Kalesperis-Man in Honor Guard
Tristan Tait-Uniform Cop
Bronson Webb-Bounty Hunter #1
David Ajala-Bounty Hunter #2
Gertrude Kyles-Foxs Secretary
Jonathan Ryland-Passenger Ferry Pilot
James Scales-Guardsman
Nigel Carrington-Warden
Ian Pirie-Corrections Officer
Lateef Lovejoy-Prisoner #1
Grahame Edwards-Prisoner #2
Roger Monk-Prisoner #3
Ronan Summers-Prisoner #4
Wai Wong-Hong Kong Detective
Michael Corey Foster-Honor Guard Leader
Hannah Gunn-Gordons Daughter
Brandon Lambdin-Armored Car SWAT
Martin Ballantyne- Jokers Henchman
Christopher Wilson- Gotham MCU Detective
Jeff Albertson- Police Officer
John Snowden- Detective
Tommy Bartlett- Maronis Attorney
Steven Hansen- Maronis Henchman
Don Kress-Maroni's Henchman
Kerri Parker- Maronis Mistress
Jamie Cho- Laus Bodyguard
Kelli Clevenger- Paramedic
Dean Mitchell- Firefighter
Angelina Lyubomirova- Ballerina
Sanjay Madhav- Senator
Stephen Armourae- Kirk Stedden
Dan Latham- Police Sgt. Spellman
Jay Fuller- Prisoner
Martyn Cooper- Prisoner
Robert Stone- Prisoner
Teresa Mahoney-Bostridge- Evacuee[/quote]
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