Sequels Team up villains for movies...

[KangConquers]

Yeah, We'd all like 1 villain movies; but if the team up really made sense, it could greatly enhance the movie.

Obviously the idea of Kraven and The Lizard in the same movie works wonderfully. Two of Spidey's best 60s villains who compliment each other completely in Story; you'd have The Lizard trying to conquer new york, Kraven trying to hunt the Lizard, and Spidey trying to fight off Kraven, defend himself from the Lizard, and cure Connors all at once. Brilliant.

So what are some of your ideas?

Another of mine for a Spidey 5 villain team would be Chameleon, and Rhino. Chameleon of course would come to New York to hunt down the men responsible for his brother's death. Since Chameleon isn't overly physically imposing, and Rhino is kind of a brainless idiot, the combination would work very well together.

Since Chameleon is the bastard son of a rich russian socialite, and Rhino is a big russian peasant, it would make sense that Rhino is Chameleon's bodyguard. Chameleon would be involved in all the tormenting of Parker (and maybe Curt Connors), and Rhino would be involved in the big fights against Peter.

What teams would you like to see?

 

[iamlegend]

When casting villains for the Spidey films, you've got to remember that they're going to go for villains that can lead to special effect bonanza type battles. Villains that can whip around just as fast as Spidey.

That's why the villains we've seen so far are two Goblins, Ock, and Venom. They can all climb buildings, or go in the air, etc.

Chameleon and Rhino can't do that... So I don't know if we'd ever see them in a Spidey flick.

I think, that if a Spidey 4 is born, we could see a tweaked version of the Scorpion. They'd give him the ability to climb/swing with his tail, making him an amalgram of Spidey and Doc Ock powerwise, I think.

I suppose they COULD have the last bit of Symbiote from S3 grow up and become Carnage, but I think that'd be lame. Carnage sucks.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I wouldn't mind a team up with Villians such as Electro and the Vulture. I mean it worked with Sandman and Venom in Spidey3. Even Chameleon and Kraven would work. Mysterio could team up with another Villian as well. But we have to remember that some Villians have storylines that might not go well with a team up. Rhino I don't think can team up with anybody becauuse he doesn't want to be controlled.

 

[AIRWOLF]

Yeah team up would be nice. My guess as to why Vulture was originally suppose to in the 3rd one was because he and Harry could have had a stunning aerial battle.

It would be sweet if we got to see a Spider-Man and any other villain team up to fight even greater threat. Sort of like Venom and Spidey partnerships.

 

[Venom 1988]

I mean it worked with Sandman and Venom in Spidey3.

Rhino I don't think can team up with anybody becauuse he doesn't want to be controlled.

These two statments made me lol. A Venom team up could work, but Rhino couldn't? lol

 

[KangConquers]

I wouldn't mind a team up with Villians such as Electro and the Vulture. I mean it worked with Sandman and Venom in Spidey3. Even Chameleon and Kraven would work. Mysterio could team up with another Villian as well. But we have to remember that some Villians have storylines that might not go well with a team up. Rhino I don't think can team up with anybody becauuse he doesn't want to be controlled.

Electro and Vulture would be a terrible team up. Both are incredibly boring characters imo. Sure they're powers are nice for SFX, but it's a doofus with a lightning bolt on his face, and an old fart in a canary suit; not my idea of a great villain team. All style, no substance.

Someone like Chameleon, Kraven or the Lizard can carry the movie based on their storylines. Chameleon as the sort of freak, Kraven for the Kraven Hunt story, and Lizard for his jekyl and hyde story...what's Vulture going to do, pop some geritol and reminisce about the 1950s? No thanks.

 

[Spiderine]

Electro and Vulture would be a terrible team up. Both are incredibly boring characters imo. Sure they're powers are nice for SFX, but it's a doofus with a lightning bolt on his face, and an old fart in a canary suit; not my idea of a great villain team. All style, no substance.

Someone like Chameleon, Kraven or the Lizard can carry the movie based on their storylines. Chameleon as the sort of freak, Kraven for the Kraven Hunt story, and Lizard for his jekyl and hyde story...what's Vulture going to do, pop some geritol and reminisce about the 1950s? No thanks.

Surely you don't believe that is the Vulture you would get fot the cinema? Geritol and arthritis? Why would they write any villain they put in the movie as not being able to hold his own against Spiderman?

 

[AIRWOLF]

Electro and Vulture would be a terrible team up. Both are incredibly boring characters imo. Sure they're powers are nice for SFX, but it's a doofus with a lightning bolt on his face, and an old fart in a canary suit; not my idea of a great villain team. All style, no substance.

Someone like Chameleon, Kraven or the Lizard can carry the movie based on their storylines. Chameleon as the sort of freak, Kraven for the Kraven Hunt story, and Lizard for his jekyl and hyde story...what's Vulture going to do, pop some geritol and reminisce about the 1950s? No thanks.

Well Sandman did not had much substance either. But after seeing him in the movie, I believe they can pretty much come up with alternate stories that suit the movie.

 

[Venom 1988]

Surely you don't believe that is the Vulture you would get fot the cinema? Geritol and arthritis? Why would they write any villain they put in the movie as not being able to hold his own against Spiderman?

Well Sandman did not had much substance either. But after seeing him in the movie, I believe they can pretty much come up with alternate stories that suit the movie.

Agreed almost any villain (well at least most of the A and B listers), can be used, as long theres a good script and the character is written with substance.

 

[weezerspider]

I mean it worked with Sandman and Venom in Spidey3. quote]

I loved Sm3, but that was the stupidest part in the whole movie.
"Hey, lets go kill Spiderman!"
"OK! BUT IM NOT A BAD PERSON!"

Raimi just pulled that one outta his ass. Lets do something that makes sense like Lizard and Kraven.

 

[iamlegend]

Yeah team up would be nice. My guess as to why Vulture was originally suppose to in the 3rd one was because he and Harry could have had a stunning aerial battle.

It would be sweet if we got to see a Spider-Man and any other villain team up to fight even greater threat. Sort of like Venom and Spidey partnerships.

You did see Spider-Man 3, right? THAT HAPPENED. Spider-Man and Goblin 2 teaming up to save MJ? You saw that, correct?

 

[AIRWOLF]

You did see Spider-Man 3, right? THAT HAPPENED. Spider-Man and Goblin 2 teaming up to save MJ? You saw that, correct?

You miss my point. I said ones like that of Spider-Man and Venom like in the comics. Harry in the end gave up on the idea of avenging his father and became his friend again. What I meant was partership that might involve betrayal or some sort of a conflict between the two partners.

 

[strikezone89]

ya lizard and hunter wuld be fantastic.

 

[Superhero 101]

I think That Electro will be too much like Doom you know with the electricity and all. Rhino can team up with Vulture or something.

Kraven And Lizard are a really good choice for the fourth film and can have Shocker as another minor Criminal like you see him in the Beginning or something.

Mysterio kinda seems dull because all he has are little magic tricks (although it would be cool if he made a hollogram thingy where he has Goblin Venom and Dock Ock yo scare the **** out of Spidey.)

 

[fletch1076]

all the villains have to play well off each other and the same time at lease on has to have a personal connection to Peter

Kraven and lizzard are a no brainer(Conners, and Peter)

Rhino and chameleon idea from the first post is brilliant. And Rhino in the fx degree would be awesome on the big screen. Think of him smashing through foundations of buildings leaving nothing but destruction in his wake.(connection to Peter, Chameleon had something to do with his parents death)

Vulture adn Electro--this team-up has been going on in the comics for a while. Don't know if its great but it is there(connection to peter, Vulture could start off as Aunt May's love interest)

Scorpion and caranage-This could end with a defeat of carnage and the symbioyte merges with scorpion like it is in the comics right now and then a final bettla between spidey and the new scorpion(connection to peter--carnage kills gwen)

 

[Venom 1988]

all the villains have to play well off each other and the same time at lease on has to have a personal connection to Peter

Kraven and lizzard are a no brainer(Conners, and Peter)

Rhino and chameleon idea from the first post is brilliant. And Rhino in the fx degree would be awesome on the big screen. Think of him smashing through foundations of buildings leaving nothing but destruction in his wake.(connection to Peter, Chameleon had something to do with his parents death)

Vulture adn Electro--this team-up has been going on in the comics for a while. Don't know if its great but it is there(connection to peter, Vulture could start off as Aunt May's love interest)

Scorpion and caranage-This could end with a defeat of carnage and the symbioyte merges with scorpion like it is in the comics right now and then a final bettla between spidey and the new scorpion(connection to peter--carnage kills gwen)

You were going good with your post...until you got to the Scorpion/Carnage one

 

[Spiderine]

Scorpion and Carnage? One is insane and the other is ....insane?

 

[Superhero 101]

all the villains have to play well off each other and the same time at lease on has to have a personal connection to Peter

Kraven and lizzard are a no brainer(Conners, and Peter)

Rhino and chameleon idea from the first post is brilliant. And Rhino in the fx degree would be awesome on the big screen. Think of him smashing through foundations of buildings leaving nothing but destruction in his wake.(connection to Peter, Chameleon had something to do with his parents death)

Vulture adn Electro--this team-up has been going on in the comics for a while. Don't know if its great but it is there(connection to peter, Vulture could start off as Aunt May's love interest)

Scorpion and caranage-This could end with a defeat of carnage and the symbioyte merges with scorpion like it is in the comics right now and then a final bettla between spidey and the new scorpion(connection to peter--carnage kills gwen)

Your connections are brilliant!!t:

 

[DACrowe]

No more team ups. It was lame in SM3. I'd like to avoid it.

I support Lizard and Kraven as they are two great villains who DO NOT have to work together yet compliment each other's stories perfectly.

 

[Mr. Socko]

In the next film, I'd like to see Lizard and Craven, but I certainly don't want them teaming up.

 

[fletch1076]

Also
Black Cat and morbius, they have had a love connection(connection to peter- love triangle and fellow students)

Kingpin's sinister 6 mysterio, shocker, hammerhead, tombstone, beetle, smythe Mostly because this villians suck and the only possible explanation would be that they were hired muscle for the Kingpin. Plus none of their backstories would have to be overly developed, Plus I am lazy and have no idea how to split them up in groups of two. But think about it if there was going to be amovie sinister six, wouldn't it be more 2nd level villians, and make more sense that they are hired hands working for someone like the kingpin. Having it constant of previous enemies makes no sense, one was insane, the othere was a misguilded doc and sandman is not bad jsut bad chioces(in the movie) Plus why retrid--new enemies, new sfx (connection to peter--no clue)

 

[shigsy2003]

Well Kraven and the Lizard in 4, that would be a fun free for all.

For five I think they should set up the Sinister Six. Have either two or three members of the six and then leave it open ended for...

Spider-Man 6....here the defeated villians from five can team up with the other villians...obviously we need Ock back for the SS so he would now be criminally insane from his near death encounter from 2 and would be the brains of the operation. This would then lead up to a final battle between Spider-Man and the Six. I also think it would work if the Balck Cat was also on Spideys side. IMO the Six should be the TAS version: Doc Ock, Rhino, Scorpion, Mysterio, Shocker and Chameleon.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Yeah, We'd all like 1 villain movies; but if the team up really made sense, it could greatly enhance the movie.

Obviously the idea of Kraven and The Lizard in the same movie works wonderfully. Two of Spidey's best 60s villains who compliment each other completely in Story; you'd have The Lizard trying to conquer new york, Kraven trying to hunt the Lizard, and Spidey trying to fight off Kraven, defend himself from the Lizard, and cure Connors all at once. Brilliant.

So what are some of your ideas?

Another of mine for a Spidey 5 villain team would be Chameleon, and Rhino. Chameleon of course would come to New York to hunt down the men responsible for his brother's death. Since Chameleon isn't overly physically imposing, and Rhino is kind of a brainless idiot, the combination would work very well together.

Since Chameleon is the bastard son of a rich russian socialite, and Rhino is a big russian peasant, it would make sense that Rhino is Chameleon's bodyguard. Chameleon would be involved in all the tormenting of Parker (and maybe Curt Connors), and Rhino would be involved in the big fights against Peter.

What teams would you like to see?

The idea of Chameleon and Rhino is very intriguing...and who says you cant have big, special effects-laden battles with Rhino? Think of it taking place in Time's Square, whith Rhino hurling cabs and buses at Spidey...it'd be spectacular.

 

[KangConquers]

The idea of Chameleon and Rhino is very intriguing...and who says you cant have big, special effects-laden battles with Rhino? Think of it taking place in Time's Square, whith Rhino hurling cabs and buses at Spidey...it'd be spectacular.

Yeah, and they could steal a page from the Hulk, and give Rhino that sort of leg strength. Imagine Rhino running up buildings, jumping from building to building charging Spidey...wow.

 

[Visionary]

TEAMS-UPS are pretty much hated in the comic books and movies. Avoid it at all cost.

The only villains Sam Raimi should be deciding on is who should be the secondary villain to THE LIZARD, KRAVEN THE HUNTER or ELECTRO. Story-wise THE LIZARD and KRAVEN would make more sense, and would be the stronger story. However, I'm not against THE LIZARD and ELECTRO.