Action-Adventure Terminator: Dark Fate

[I Am The Knight]

The highway ending from T2 is iconic to me, so I'm glad they didn't use the other one.

Anyway, I think they should just leave the franchise alone. The story is complete with the Cameron films.

 

[Gold Samurai]

I just think it's too late.

Genisys tried to capture Cameron's aesthetic and showed the endgame of the war but that film was garbage.

Dark Fate completely did away with the classic mythology. John Connor & Skynet aren't even canon anymore.

Another theatrical release, in whatever form, would flat out bomb. Too much damage has been done.

Also. Enough with all these replacement directors. No one can recapture Cameron's lightning in the bottle except Cameron.

He'd have to direct the next movie even if it took 10 years to get right.

 

[Drizzle]

I don't think Cameron is remotely interested in directing another Terminator. He basically said as much even before Terminator 3 came out.

 

[Mani-Man]

Honestly if a studio did the Future War and actually distanced itself from the Terminator/John Connor mythos a la Rogue One and Star Wars, it could actually be a pretty good movie.

Thats what i think too...and we even got to see that it is still something you can make money with.

The Recent Terminator game shows quite well that the Future War setting is still interesting to people.
People like the game very much despite it being a bit clunky on all corners, because the care that has gone into the development.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I've said this before, Days Of Future Past is still the best Terminator film we've gotten since T2.

 

[Captain Tired]

I've said this before, Days Of Future Past is still the best Terminator film we've gotten since T2.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

At least Days of Future Past had a happy ending... just like the true ending of T2.

 

[Captain Tired]

It's funny because I know she's saying 'Hope', but it looks like she could just as easily be saying 'Cope.'

 

[Alien Anal]

At least Days of Future Past had a happy ending... just like the true ending of T2.

Maybe you are just being facetious but it's not the true ending.

 

[Drizzle]

Maybe you are just being facetious but it's not the true ending.

There is no true ending so you can take your pick. T2's definitive alternate ending, or Salvation since it carried on continuity from T3, or Dark Fate or Genisys if you're a fan of either of those.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

There is no true ending so you can take your pick. T2's definitive alternate ending, or Salvation since it carried on continuity from T3, or Dark Fate or Genisys if you're a fan of either of those.

That's the problem.

They've made such a mess of the overall narrative.

It's gross.

 

[Deck Rickard]

It really is baffling how much they’ve ****ed up this franchise. Just one bad decision after another. The way they’ve handled the John Connor character has just been awful after T2. Leader of the resistance? Nah, let’s just make him an emo drifter who can’t do anything unless his future self sends a Terminator back to protect him! Then a few years later, he’ll be a badass resistance fighter who… sits in a basement and listens to his mom’s tapes. Then we’ll make him a terminator and send him back in time to kill Sarah ‘cuz we need a plot twist! Okay, that didn’t work; let’s just ****ing kill him as a kid and start over.

To be fair to Dark Fate, I only watched about the first 20 minutes or so and it wasn’t terrible but I just realized I didn’t care anymore. Also, it’s insane that liquid metal morphing effects somehow looked better in 1991 than in 2019. But I guess that’s the difference between James Cameron and Tim Miller.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I was watching some of the cutscenes and gameplay from that Terminator Resistance game last night. From what I’ve seen of it, it’s amazing how that game’s story was better than most of the sequels after T2.

 

[I Am The Knight]

At least Days of Future Past had a happy ending... just like the true ending of T2.

You already know what the true ending is

 

[henzINNIT]

I enjoyed Terminator Resistance for the clear love the devs have for the source material, but it was a C-tier game at best, cheap and corny. Story is garbage by film standards. Yeah, this series has dropped some turds of its own but it still needs to aim higher.

 

[Vaibow]

I want this indie movie where we see a family hear an alert and straight off the bat they just have to pack their stuff and run, cities all evacuating, we see nukes going off, military, other craft that are obviously the aggressors and they get to their cabin in the valley of nowhere and the dad is almost like a pepper, he knew this day was coming - we see them survive a winter, we see how they retreat underground, hide heat sources etc - the tech is obviously advanced.

We hear them talking to a leader type character on the radio, plotting their next move, a few join them and they get the all clear to travel to a point.

they get there, plot twist, it's John Connor, it's set in the terminator universe.

I would love a surprise plot twist - it's not marketed as a terminator movie at all.

 

[Erik20]

It really is baffling how much they’ve ****ed up this franchise. Just one bad decision after another. The way they’ve handled the John Connor character has just been awful after T2. Leader of the resistance? Nah, let’s just make him an emo drifter who can’t do anything unless his future self sends a Terminator back to protect him! Then a few years later, he’ll be a badass resistance fighter who… sits in a basement and listens to his mom’s tapes. Then we’ll make him a terminator and send him back in time to kill Sarah ‘cuz we need a plot twist! Okay, that didn’t work; let’s just ****ing kill him as a kid and start over.

To be fair to Dark Fate, I only watched about the first 20 minutes or so and it wasn’t terrible but I just realized I didn’t care anymore. Also, it’s insane that liquid metal morphing effects somehow looked better in 1991 than in 2019. But I guess that’s the difference between James Cameron and Tim Miller.

It's not a terrible movie, well if you can forget about how it craps all over T1 and T2... if this wasn't a Terminator movie, it still wouldn't be great, but "okay." Problem is if you're a fan, there are too many things you won't like about it.

I want this indie movie where we see a family hear an alert and straight off the bat they just have to pack their stuff and run, cities all evacuating, we see nukes going off, military, other craft that are obviously the aggressors and they get to their cabin in the valley of nowhere and the dad is almost like a pepper, he knew this day was coming - we see them survive a winter, we see how they retreat underground, hide heat sources etc - the tech is obviously advanced.

We hear them talking to a leader type character on the radio, plotting their next move, a few join them and they get the all clear to travel to a point.

they get there, plot twist, it's John Connor, it's set in the terminator universe.

I would love a surprise plot twist - it's not marketed as a terminator movie at all.

So basically Cloverfield Lane (until they ruined it by using that name) A studio would never agree to that though, they would be too afraid of losing money.

 

[titansupes]

So basically Cloverfield Lane (until they ruined it by using that name) A studio would never agree to that though, they would be too afraid of losing money.

Not as big or as iconic as the Terminator franchise, but--

 

[Erik20]

Not as big or as iconic as the Terminator franchise, but--

True, but that movie was always going to get exposure just for it being the next M. Night Shyamalan movie.

I guess you could do it with Terminator, but a big name would have to be attached to the project. A studio wouldn't want to "waste" the rights on a small indie movie.

 

[samsnee]

Nah he made a good movie. It was just unfortunate it came after two horrible sequels.

It’s also a misleading headline as expected. He didn’t say he was wrong to make it. He was wrong in believing people would want to see it

Miller said, “I went in with the rock hard nerd belief that if I made a good movie that I wanted to see, it would do well. And I was wrong. It was one of those f**king Eureka moments in a bad way because the movie tanked.”

 

[Kane52630]

I've said this before, Days Of Future Past is still the best Terminator film we've gotten since T2.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

 

[Scarlet Spider]

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Shame her comeback wasn't successful. I actually like Terminator 3 but she should have been involved some how.