Action-Adventure Terminator: Dark Fate

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah not seeing the comparison between the recent Ghostbusters movies and Terminator ones myself. The latter movies were much more expensive and probably had bigger marketing budgets also so they struggled much more to turn a profit and quite clearly didn't with Dark Fate.

If Cameron was to actually DIRECT a new Terminator movie though, all bets would be off as you just don't bet against the guy.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah not seeing the comparison between the recent Ghostbusters movies and Terminator ones myself. The latter movies were much more expensive and probably had bigger marketing budgets also so they struggled much more to turn a profit and quite clearly didn't with Dark Fate.

If Cameron was to actually DIRECT a new Terminator movie though, all bets would be off as you just don't bet against the guy.

But he isn't going to. He's not leaving Pandora

 

[DyeLorean]

For me the biggest offender is Genisys. That one had a somewhat entertaining first act but it fell apart so badly afterwards.
The franchise works best when it leans into the horror more than the action.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

But he isn't going to. He's not leaving Pandora

I know it's unlikely but you never know. He might hand directing duties over to a new director for further Avatar movies after 3/4.

 

[Drizzle]

This doesn't have to do with Terminator specifically but your golden god hates you, nerds.

 

[Zantera]

Even if Cameron directed another Terminator film I would be very sceptical. And I liked both Avatar films but they're just different beasts. What made T1 and T2 so special is not something I've seen from his movies in a long time. Some of those action set pieces in T2 still hold up so well today because they were shot in real locations with real stuntmen and it's different going back to doing that when you've been filming mostly with green screens in your slippers and the comfort of a studio for a few decades. I would never bet against Cameron in a financial sense and I'm sure a Terminator movie directed by him would make money, but does he have it in him still? The Avatar movies are their own separate thing and he does that thing very well.

 

[Kane52630]

This doesn't have to do with Terminator specifically but your golden god hates you, nerds.

If he had said anything else, it wouldn't be on brand.

 

[Drizzle]

If he had said anything else, it wouldn't be on brand.

It's like he's trying to single-handedly end the whole "Canadians are so nice" stereotype.

Love him or hate him, it's an absolute dick move to go out of your way to **** on your fans who are still buying your movies on physical media.

 

[DyeLorean]

Does Cameron know how to shoot live action at this point? If he does a Terminator movie is gonna look like Alita: Battle Angel.

I've said this before but make it low budget, make it horror. Give it to A24 or Neon. Go back to the first movie, make it a straight-out horror movie and release it in October. That endoskeleton is still scary as sh**. Just stop trying to make it into another big budget stravaganza.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Even if Cameron directed another Terminator film I would be very sceptical. And I liked both Avatar films but they're just different beasts. What made T1 and T2 so special is not something I've seen from his movies in a long time. Some of those action set pieces in T2 still hold up so well today because they were shot in real locations with real stuntmen and it's different going back to doing that when you've been filming mostly with green screens in your slippers and the comfort of a studio for a few decades. I would never bet against Cameron in a financial sense and I'm sure a Terminator movie directed by him would make money, but does he have it in him still? The Avatar movies are their own separate thing and he does that thing very well.

I think after a decade or so on Pandora he might want to get back into the live action game and get outside. So he might be reinvigorated at that point.

The guy ain't getting any younger though.

 

[Alien Anal]

I feel like it's going to be a reboot/remake new ideas all together that might not even be called terminator but in J.Cs mind it will be a "Terminator" story, terminator now just meaning a.i being dicks.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[TheVileOne]

You already killed John Connor!

 

[AndrewGilkison]

They've rebooted and butchered the Conners and the Arnold Terminator so many times at this point that they might as well start fresh with new characters.

I like what Cameron is talking about in regards to dealing with A.I., but lets get back to the anti-war aspect of this franchise and have something to say about it.

 

[Alien Anal]

It will probably be a better version of The Creator

 

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Blazing Saddles, North by Northwest, and The Terminator are getting 4K Ultra HD releases from Warner Bros. Discovery Home Entertainment.

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[dark_b]

In this video you can see in what direction the new terminator movie will go

 

[Alien Anal]

In this video you can see in what direction the new terminator movie will go

What ideas did you take from for a new terminator film? Just curious as it brought some ideas to myself.

 

[elgaz]

Very interesting listen that, not from a Terminator perspective, but just general AI. Cameron has obviously spent a lot of time thinking about the topic.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

In this video you can see in what direction the new terminator movie will go

This is why the first two Terminator movies were so good. They were about the dangers of A.I. in terms of being war machines. They captured the zeitgeist of the fears of the time. The sequels lost their way because they failed to update those themes and modernize them.

This bit from my Terminator Genisys review calls this out. That movie is the perfect example of how the Terminator franchise completely lost its way. Dark Fate not only doesn't fix that, it doubles down on those things, while also adding new problems.

Don't get me started on the "Genisys App". Making Skynet a social media thing misses the point of what the Terminator movies were about in the first place. Its not about being anti-technology. Its about what happens when you use technology to make war easier, and put life and death decisions in the hands of computers. Its about how real humans become dehumanized.

The sad thing is that we actually live in that world now. We have drone programs. We have the NSA. We have the freedom vs. security debate being more relevant than ever. A Terminator reboot had a major opportunity to address this and bring the original themes up to date, but this film fails to have any substantial themes at all, instead getting bogged down in the time travel and the one-liners and trying to be like a light weight comic book movie.

If the producers wanted to rip off Marvel's formula they should've taken inspiration from Captain America Winter Soldier instead of Thor: The Dark World.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think a big problem with everything that comes after Terminator 2 is that everything is desperately trying to recreate the first two films and imitating them and always failing.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

I think a big problem with everything that comes after Terminator 2 is that everything is desperately trying to recreate the first two films and imitating them and always failing.

Salvation had the right idea but terrible execution. A legit war film during the Future War, or something like Rogue One with the final push to send someone back, could've been an interesting angle that's only ever glanced over.

 

[TheVileOne]

The recent Terminator video game did the future setting better.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

The recent Terminator video game did the future setting better.

Is it good? I thought about picking it up.

 

[TheVileOne]

Is it good? I thought about picking it up.

Yes.