Action-Adventure Terminator: Dark Fate

[Kane52630]

How much control/input does Cameron have a producer? What stuff has been his ideas and saying?

More so than the last three films. He oversaw the script this time and has a story credit to the film.

 

[Zorro]

Very disappointed with what he came up with or okayed . I mean because I really wish this only ignored Genisys and was an all out war movie in the future set 10-20 years after Salvation with an older John Connor as a 5 star general being the protagonist having a major role

 

[Da-Scribe]

I think I misspoke. What I meant was that, for me, the story reached its full potential in T2. It merges and balances perfectly the horror and the action and stretches the premise as far as it can go. Now, I wouldn't say this if T: DF was the third movie in the franchise, but they've done so many different things at this point that I don't think there's a way to restore the simplicity of the first two.

I don’t think any of the other attempts have aimed for simplicity though. They use it as a launching pad and then kinda go wild.

I genuinely feel the sequels outside of TG were salvageable.

 

[Zorro]

They sure were to me. Nowhere near as great as the first two but still good films. They had their issues but not completely terrible sequels except Genisys.

There's franchises with way worse sequels

 

[Sithborg]

3 definitely benefited from not attempting to launch more movies like Salvation and Genysis.

 

[Mysteryman]

Can’t stand 3. It’s my least favorite of the films.

 

[Zorro]

The Terminator - 9.5

Terminator 2: Judgement Day - 10/10

Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines - 7/10

Terminator: Salvation- 7.5/10

Terminator: Genisys - 5/10

 

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How much control/input does Cameron have a producer? What stuff has been his ideas and saying?

To quote Cameron himself: “My belief is that if you get a director who’s a grown-up and knows what to do, you turn them loose,” Cameron said. “My role as producer was in pre-production, and prep and shepherding the script. But it was Tim’s film when it reached the floor.

 

[Zorro]

Makes sense but eh. He should have just waited after finishing the Avatar sequels to direct a new Terminator film or something

 

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Makes sense but eh. He should have just waited after finishing the Avatar sequels to direct a new Terminator film or something

Well, if everything goes according to plan Avatar 5 comes 2027, so... that would be quite a wait.

Honestly, personally I think he might resign from filmmaking after those movies, whether they are successful or not.

 

[DarkKnight88]

He’s gone on record that he’s been done with the Terminator franchise after the second.

The only reason he’s contributing now is cause they screwed it up so many times, that he’s like, alright since the purity of it doesn’t matter anymore, here’s where you can go.

But I don’t think directing another one presents any challenges or interests for him anymore.

 

[Zorro]

Avatar 5, wtf? I thought only a trilogy was planned with 2 and 3 filming back to back.

If this gets a sequel, that one will be Cameron's last film before officially retiring from the franchise!? Damn

 

[Teelie]

At the rate Cameron is going we'll be seeing 9 Avatar movies by 2050.

 

[Mysteryman]

Coming in 2061, Avatar 10!

 

[Mysteryman]

How about the crossover, The AvaTerminator?

 

[Deck Rickard]

Arnold would make a funny looking Avatar. I need to see it.

 

[DyeLorean]

Do people really want so many Avatar sequels? The movie was financially successful no doubt about it, but I don't see any lasting cultural impact.

 

[MadVillainy]

Do people really want so many Avatar sequels? The movie was financially successful no doubt about it, but I don't see any lasting cultural impact.

Yeah I think a lot of people have been saying/thinking that

 

[Zantera]

I remember my first time seeing Terminator 3, my best friend had downloaded it and burnt it on a CD and we watched it (this was back in the old DVD-RIP times) and we saw it on his tiny PC-monitor and I thought "wow this movie looks pretty meh". I kinda dismissed it for years as it probably being the downloaded file and/or the monitor but I've rewatched it 2-3 times over the years since and it really does look like a tv-movie. It's hard to put my finger on exactly why, if it's the lighting or costumes, but I think also the guy who plays John Connor is just such a flat note and there's nothing memorable about him or his performance, and I think for as good Claire Danes has become since then, she was pretty meh in that movie too. And the female Terminator was pretty meh as well. I don't know it feels to me like a made-for-TV movie where they happened to get Arnold somehow yet everything about it feels so cheap.

Salvation and Genisys while not great felt like big movies.

 

[Zorro]

I actually liked Avatar but a sequel or trilogy should be it's top limit. I don't see it being a franchise like Star Wars or something

 

[DyeLorean]

I remember my first time seeing Terminator 3, my best friend had downloaded it and burnt it on a CD and we watched it (this was back in the old DVD-RIP times) and we saw it on his tiny PC-monitor and I thought "wow this movie looks pretty meh". I kinda dismissed it for years as it probably being the downloaded file and/or the monitor but I've rewatched it 2-3 times over the years since and it really does look like a tv-movie. It's hard to put my finger on exactly why, if it's the lighting or costumes, but I think also the guy who plays John Connor is just such a flat note and there's nothing memorable about him or his performance, and I think for as good Claire Danes has become since then, she was pretty meh in that movie too. And the female Terminator was pretty meh as well. I don't know it feels to me like a made-for-TV movie where they happened to get Arnold somehow yet everything about it feels so cheap.

Yeah, you can clearly see the difference between directors and how that affects the film.
I do really like, however, the big chase scene. It's so damn destructive and chaotic that is just plain fun to watch.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Do people really want so many Avatar sequels? The movie was financially successful no doubt about it, but I don't see any lasting cultural impact.

People don’t know what they really want until they see it.

I remember before Avatar opened, people thought the same thought.

But it’s James Cameron making a sequel which, judging by history, he’s been pretty successful at.

 

[Zorro]

Yeah, you can clearly see the difference between directors and how that affects the film.
I do really like, however, the big chase scene. It's so damn destructive and chaotic that is just plain fun to watch.

Every film in the series has great chase scenes but that one is probably my 2nd favorite after the semi truck and motorcycles in T2

 

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[Deck Rickard]

Do people really want so many Avatar sequels? The movie was financially successful no doubt about it, but I don't see any lasting cultural impact.

Yeah, it’s been so long since the first one that I don’t think anyone is really that into it anymore. I know we all tend to get nostalgic for stuff after time passes but I don’t really see that happening with Avatar. I could be wrong though.