Action-Adventure Terminator: Dark Fate

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Cameron in 2009
James Cameron on Terminator Salvation, Sold Terminator Franchise Rights for $1? – /Film
'' It also lacked a certain stamp of authenticity because Arnold wasn’t in it. I mean, he was in it briefly, digitally, but that’s not the same thing.''
''I’ve moved on creatively from The Terminator, so I’m not really interested in that imagery and even those ideas anymore — and I’m not sure the world is that interested either. It’s run its course, I feel.''

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

Cameron in 2009
James Cameron on Terminator Salvation, Sold Terminator Franchise Rights for $1? – /Film
'' It also lacked a certain stamp of authenticity because Arnold wasn’t in it. I mean, he was in it briefly, digitally, but that’s not the same thing.''
''I’ve moved on creatively from The Terminator, so I’m not really interested in that imagery and even those ideas anymore — and I’m not sure the world is that interested either. It’s run its course, I feel.''

It's almost like... he could see the future!

 

[OutOfBoose]

All that makes me think that Cameron was just sent there by Fox to promote and support another try. Because it certainly doesn't look like he woke up one day and said "I've got this idea". Cameron probably asked for a few favors from Fox regarding Avatar sequels and they asked him the same in return.

 

[Schlosser85]

I don't think Cameron has personally given a **** since 1991.

 

[-JKR-]

Well, that's exactly why that novelty was needed. It shakes things up.

Legion is winning.

Humans send someone back as a last stand.

Legion gets a hold of it and sends someone back to stop whoever was sent back. Oooor...

Legion is winning.

Humans sends someone back to stop a Terminator which was sent back before the victory.

Of course I just made this up in mere seconds, but if you give it some thoughts there are endless possibilities on how to approach the issue.

 

[Willi Berg]

I would've liked to have seen Tim Miller's version, without Cameron. I mean, I'm curious what it would've been like.

It's funny that people have been missing James Cameron's input in the Terminator movies but then his involvement in this one created a problem of clashing director visions. And his involvement is in the movie where they decide to finally move away in a major way from his version (i.e. John Connor and Skynet.)

The setup was bound to create a clash of visions.

If they were truly moving on then they should have done it.

 

[Filmfreak]

I would've liked to have seen Tim Miller's version, without Cameron. I mean, I'm curious what it would've been like.

It's funny that people have been missing James Cameron's input in the Terminator movies but then his involvement in this one created a problem of clashing director visions. And his involvement is in the movie where they decide to finally move away in a major way from his version (i.e. John Connor and Skynet.)

The setup was bound to create a clash of visions.

If they were truly moving on then they should have done it.

Yeah, by just renaming them Dani Ramos and Legion while maintaining the exact same plot every previous movie had. Such fresh ideas.

 

[GothamAlleys]

"I never really developed a sequel to T2. I didn't own the rights to the franchise, and I just got on with my life. As a friend of Arnold, I was supportive of his continuation of the franchise, but never directly involved. A few ideas have gone through my head from time to time, but I never developed them, as there was no need. - Cameron in 2016

 

[:eek:]

I don't think Cameron has personally given a **** since 1991.

And the only reason he did a second movie was because he didn't have the money or the technology the first time. T2 was the movie he always wanted to make. It's basically a big budget remake of the first movie disguised as a sequel.

 

[Mysteryman]

And the only reason he did a second movie was because he didn't have the money or the technology the first time. T2 was the movie he always wanted to make. It's basically a big budget remake of the first movie disguised as a sequel.

That may be true but ,The Terminator(1984) is the better film because it's the only film that has The Terminator as a cold blooded cybernetic assassin.

 

[henzINNIT]

I never really needed Cameron back on board to be honest. The problem wasn't a lack of him specifically, just a lack of talent in those roles after he departed. A moot point now I feel. There have been so many fumbles in the series that I don't think there's anything left that would feel fresh and not trample over the past.

Why would Legion send anyone to the past if they're winning?

Presumably to stop humans from altering the future.

 

[8ulk87]

DOMESTIC (23.9%)
$59,531,297
INTERNATIONAL (76.1%)
$189,800,000
WORLDWIDE
$249,331,297

Lowest box office performance since the original Terminator.

Boxoffice is already dying fast. No chance to hit $300 mil.

01) Terminator 2 JD (1991) - $520,8 mil.
02) Terminator Genisys (2015) - $440,6 mil.
03) Terminator 3 RotM (2003) - $433,4 mil.
04) Terminator Salvation (2009) - $371,4 mil.
05) Terminator Dark Fate (2019) - $265 mil.
06) The Terminator (1984) - $78,5 mil.

The movie has a cost north of $250 mil (production & marketing).
Needed a $450+ mil WW gross to break even.

Guess we re not getting another high budget sequel any time soon. Probably for the best.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Dunno if this was posted before, but looks awesome:

 

[Alien Anal]

I know it's tiring to hear but when I see people getting pumped up for 1917 I get jealous that we didn't get a future war film that has the same hype that 1917 does.

I imagine in another universe they announced a future war movie and went on to tell us that the flash back scenes we got in T1-T2 were only scratching the surface of the future and this movie would be going deeper into that world than ever before. Heck even do the "one take" idea from 1917 and add that extra intensity to the film. You have never seen a Terminator film like this before they could say. Uhh I'm a dreamer.

 

[Zorro]

What connection could World War 1 have to the original judgement day in 1997 and then the war between humans and machines in 2029 that led to the original time jumps?

Salvation failed because of misdirection with the story and odd locations. A proper future war film is still possible and the only thing that that interests in any new terminator movie. Terminators facing off against world war 1 era soldiers with tech and weapons of the time would be interesting..for like a one issue comic

 

[Alien Anal]

What connection could World War 1 have to the original judgement day in 1997 and then the war between humans and machines in 2029 that led to the original time jumps?

Salvation failed because of misdirection with the story and odd locations. A proper future war film is still possible and the only thing that that interests in any new terminator movie. Terminators facing off against world war 1 era soldiers with tech and weapons of the time would be interesting..for like a one issue comic

Huh? I didn't say there are any connections apart from both being set around a war.

 

[Zorro]

Then why do it? No reason for Skynet to care about the past pre John or Sarah Connor

 

[Alien Anal]

Then why do it? No reason for Skynet to care about the past pre John or Sarah Connor

Sorry I'm quite confused as to what you are talking about. I feel as though either I didn't explain my self properly or you are misunderstanding what it is I'm saying.

 

[Zorro]

I completely misunderstood you and thought you want a terminator war film like 1917. Thought you were the one that comes in sometimes and wishes for a Terminator film during world war 1 or 2

 

[Alien Anal]

I completely misunderstood you and thought you want a terminator war film like 1917. Thought you were the one that comes in sometimes and wishes for a Terminator film during world war 1 or 2

All good mate. Thought I was going crazy. Nah man I'm the one that comes in here with a written out with images and even commissioned an artists to design my Sarah Connor from my future war story. I compare it to 1917 as my plot is quite similar with a race against the clock to save resistance members before they fall for a trap set up by Skynet.

 

[Alien Anal]

Sorry for the size of the image. This is what I have come up with for a future war film that follows on from T1-T2

This is what I want.

 

[Zorro]

Ah yeah I remember that post. I'm with you then!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That may be true but ,The Terminator(1984) is the better film because it's the only film that has The Terminator as a cold blooded cybernetic assassin.

T2 is a much better film in every way imo. Even the evil terminator is better imo.

 

[The Chris]

T2 is a much better film in every way imo. Even the evil terminator is better imo.

The Terminator is an incredible movie, but i grew up thinking T2 was one of the greatest movies ever, and I still feel that way.

 

[Willi Berg]

The Terminator is an incredible movie, but i grew up thinking T2 was one of the greatest movies ever, and I still feel that way.

I think younger people dug T2 because it was bigger, bigger effects etc. But if you saw T1 first then you would be impressed by its story and see that T2 wasn't quite the same, but exciting in different ways.

I remember even Anton Yelchin in a TV interview saying he saw T2 first as a child and then he saw T1 after that and wasn't as impressed. Of course it looked cheaper, smaller etc. especially after seeing T2 first.