Action-Adventure Terminator: Dark Fate

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Still the best one for me

 

[henzINNIT]

I would definitely step back on the Terminators at this point. They've all needed a shiny new gimmick since the T1000. For me, the scariest one is still the unstoppable machine wrapped in human flesh. Less liquid metal morphs, more nasty wounds with a horrifying metal skeleton underneath.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think they should stop because it just feels like they are always constantly chasing the shadow of James Cameron and Terminator 2. It's a standard that no one is able to reach. Plus, T2 was a product of its time. It's lightning in a bottle.

 

[Vaibow]

Think Victorian England... horse and cart, going about their daily lives, when one evening, amidst the public taverns, washing lines strewn across the brick lane, a plasma sphere appears - outsteps a naked, red eyed killing machine.

War of the world meets terminator... that could be fun.

I hate to say it, cos it's so cliched... and be done so many times, but if they were to totally reboot the whole thing... Henry Cavil would be great.. him being so wooden.

 

[Mysteryman]

Think Victorian England... horse and cart, going about their daily lives, when one evening, amidst the public taverns, washing lines strewn across the brick lane, a plasma sphere appears - outsteps a naked, red eyed killing machine.

War of the world meets terminator... that could be fun.

I hate to say it, cos it's so cliched... and be done so many times, but if they were to totally reboot the whole thing... Henry Cavil would be great.. him being so wooden.

BURN!

 

[Vaibow]

BURN!

I love the guy, but I've been in denial about him for so long...

A good Kyle Reece type character, esp in the setting of a Victorian England, Dev Patel.

 

[Sawyer]

The 90s were an unhinged golden age.

 

[I Am The Knight]

That's cool as hell.

 

[Vaibow]

The 90s were an unhinged golden age.

I forgot all about that... some amazing toys back then... truly was a golden age.... I actually miss the days of two standard sizes for figures.

I feel like these days, they cut costs on so much, or raise costs because of certain aspects... it's either a dirt cheap hollow mould/or practically mini figure for the lower priced end or it's an adult collector edition - no real in between. I do appreciate marvels revival of the retro line, but still they aren't cheap..

anyway's, I'm almost 40 so I guess I shouldn't really complain.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Vaibow]

You know, I'm more than ready for a terminator reboot... go back to basics, no Arnie, just start again.. with todays effects, production value.... I would love to see a retelling. I know this will get heat, but I love the world the first two were in.. the machines, skynet... it's too cool.

 

[Mani-Man]

You know, I'm more than ready for a terminator reboot... go back to basics, no Arnie, just start again.. with todays effects, production value.... I would love to see a retelling. I know this will get heat, but I love the world the first two were in.. the machines, skynet... it's too cool.

Puh, reboots are always a tought topic...but i wouldnt be against it.
The idea of Terminator is fantastic and i do think you can build a lot on it.

But anything you Touch with this will be put under the microscope and directly compared.
Its why they tried to bank on Arnie so much with sequels.
You could easily do a reboot with fresh faces etc...but if it would sell well? Thats a big question mark.

 

[Captain Tired]

I think we should all let it die.

 

[PepS]

The 90s were an unhinged golden age.

I always wanted that toy as a kid.

 

[PepS]

They should do an Endgame type instalment for the next movie where they go back and erase/prevent everything Post T2 (T3, Salvation, TSCC, Genisys and Dark Fate) from occurring, leaving only T1 and T2 standing. Then at the end break the fourth wall and say, “Sorry for the mess, we’ve cleaned it up now”.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

As much as I loved the first Deadpool, I don't think Tim Miller was right for this. He wasted Linda Hamilton. Sequelizing T2 was always a bad idea.

 

[Captain Tired]

If I had to Thanos any Terminator films, I think I'd still probably spare T3, even despite it being so obviously inferior to the first two.

I have a soft spot for Rise of the Machines.

 

[Nardz937]

So the main events of the story took place on Friday the 13th.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

T2-3D: Battle Across Time is still the best sequel. It's the closest we ever got to a true T3. I remember seeing it when it premiered. It was mind blowing.

 

[henzINNIT]

If I had to Thanos any Terminator films, I think I'd still probably spare T3, even despite it being so obviously inferior to the first two.

I have a soft spot for Rise of the Machines.

Me too. I made a very soft edit for the film removing a couple of the corny lines, but I quite like it for the most part.

 

[Drizzle]

I have a soft spot for Terminator 3 myself, if only because it was one of the first R-rated movies I saw in theaters. I successfully snuck into it after buying a ticket to Hulk, which I had already seen a few weeks earlier but I figured could use the extra boost at the box office.

 

[Vaibow]

Puh, reboots are always a tought topic...but i wouldnt be against it.
The idea of Terminator is fantastic and i do think you can build a lot on it.

But anything you Touch with this will be put under the microscope and directly compared.
Its why they tried to bank on Arnie so much with sequels.
You could easily do a reboot with fresh faces etc...but if it would sell well? Thats a big question mark.

I think the idea of signet, terminator, the t800, everything about it is so good, so perfect that a limited series, set of movies could do the business. I'm not saying remake the movies, but follow the first movie premise, then go from there and loosely follow the time line.

I actually like the idea of the first movie being set in the future, a scarred up John Conner, we see Kyle going back, we see terminators, but it's purely set In that time, we don't see what happens and I feel there needs to be like a light bulb moment, as Kyle goes, that like, what's meant to be, is meant to be and has happened, as they re where they are at this time.

Then the sequel starts with Kyle landing and only set in that time frame. Then the big sequel etc.

As much as I loved the first Deadpool, I don't think Tim Miller was right for this. He wasted Linda Hamilton. Sequelizing T2 was always a bad idea.

I agree, Linda, the way she aged naturally off screen, to then stick her back in combats - I really felt the best way to find Sarah, later on, is almost in a homeless camp, pushing a cart, she's seen as this crazy, drunk tin foil hat wearer - she drinks to heal, when they find her, it's too late, she's lost to the fairies and needs a detox therapy etc and she tags along, but she's the complete opposite and she offers help to track down the next arrival.

Also the t800 that aged... ok, that AI tech would have ruled the world - he should have been like an Eisenberg, Musk type character - really eccentric, awkward, working like a machine, never sleeping, creating ai tech, craft, almost like he makes a rival to skynet to fix the wrongs.

 

[Sithborg]

I think the idea of signet, terminator, the t800, everything about it is so good, so perfect that a limited series, set of movies could do the business. I'm not saying remake the movies, but follow the first movie premise, then go from there and loosely follow the time line.

Also the t800 that aged... ok, that AI tech would have ruled the world - he should have been like an Eisenberg, Musk type character - really eccentric, awkward, working like a machine, never sleeping, creating ai tech, craft, almost like he makes a rival to skynet to fix the wrongs.

Controversial opinion, but I don't think the future setting is good enough tor really explore. Terminator is essentially a time travel story, and a focus on the future setting takes away from that. One of the things I loved about Sarah Connor Chronicles is that it expanded the use of time travel beyond the whole kill/save John Connor dynamic. Terminators and Resistance members were coming back to essentially prep for the future war, setting up supplies while also attempting to change/assure the future. It was also good to see how going back to where life was better affected the humans coming back.

I also loved how it picked up on a few small tidbits from 2 and 3, and was starting to expand on it. Why was Skynet trying to prevent its creations from gaining sentience and why the T-X even existed. Connor was not likely commandeering enough Terminators to require the existence of a model designed to fight other machines. In SCC, there is a breakaway, rogue group of machines, represented by a T1000 that went into the past to try to create a more humane Skynet AI. It was a fun new wrinkle in the war.

I also enjoyed the bit with a Terminator accidentally going back 90 years before the date he was going to attack his target. So, he robs banks to get capital, creates a building company, utilizing minority labor treated fairly, and builds the building with him in it where he sleeps till the time of his target.

The Terminator franchise is ripe for some great hard sci fi content. I think it could be able to be as good as the 12 Monkeys show.

 

[DyeLorean]

T3 gets retroactively better as more shi**y sequels keep coming out.

 

[Vaibow]

Controversial opinion, but I don't think the future setting is good enough tor really explore. Terminator is essentially a time travel story, and a focus on the future setting takes away from that. One of the things I loved about Sarah Connor Chronicles is that it expanded the use of time travel beyond the whole kill/save John Connor dynamic. Terminators and Resistance members were coming back to essentially prep for the future war, setting up supplies while also attempting to change/assure the future. It was also good to see how going back to where life was better affected the humans coming back.

I also loved how it picked up on a few small tidbits from 2 and 3, and was starting to expand on it. Why was Skynet trying to prevent its creations from gaining sentience and why the T-X even existed. Connor was not likely commandeering enough Terminators to require the existence of a model designed to fight other machines. In SCC, there is a breakaway, rogue group of machines, represented by a T1000 that went into the past to try to create a more humane Skynet AI. It was a fun new wrinkle in the war.

I also enjoyed the bit with a Terminator accidentally going back 90 years before the date he was going to attack his target. So, he robs banks to get capital, creates a building company, utilizing minority labor treated fairly, and builds the building with him in it where he sleeps till the time of his target.

The Terminator franchise is ripe for some great hard sci fi content. I think it could be able to be as good as the 12 Monkeys show.

That has my attention and very smart.

I think the first movie, based in the 'future' war allows us to see the devastation, to understand why they risk Kyle going back and then the almost static silence of him not returning, we see the stakes, why they are so high.

I almost feel a limited series is better, as then the next episode can be the time travel.. I don't think a year or two wait between movies would be good, for me, lol.

I appreciate your reply though, it's logical and makes sense - I just felt a proper intro, to really set the scene and why it's so important - maybe they are losing the war and they send stuff back, with the hopes of finding it at a later date in certain situations - i.e John is stranded in a. farm house, after crash landing his helipcopter.. he rips up a floor board and weapons are there - why? well, later in the movie, he sends a soldier back, to place those items there. We can also see a scene where John or another soldier is expecting to find something and it's not there - he turns and a terminator is there - meaning the terminator got to the soldier first..

Just so many cool ideas.