Terminator: Genisys - Part 7

[Galactus123]

The theme song is awesome:

I hope the movie does well because I want more Terminator movies.

 

[Gold Samurai]

I kinda feel bad for Arnold. I mean, he got paid a truckload. But since his comeback, he hasn't been in any movies that have connected with audiences. I thought he was good in Escape Plan and Sabotage but no one saw those either.

"Maggie" was apparently good but it was below the radar for audiences to notice it.

 

[Jay Beezy]

2.3M in previews.

 

[lukebrodyg]

I kinda feel bad for Arnold. I mean, he got paid a truckload. But since his comeback, he hasn't been in any movies that have connected with audiences. I thought he was good in Escape Plan and Sabotage but no one saw those either.

I don't feel bad for Arnold. He's had a long, successful, lucrative career.

I will say that I wonder why on earth he agreed to this? When you look at his main counterpart, Stallone, coming back for Rocky and Rambo are still somewhat relatable and believable (proven by their continuing profitability). But I don't think anyone really wants to see a 70 year old terminator. The intimidation he had from T1 & T2 are gone, partly because of the hammy-ness of T3 and partly because he looks old.

I just don't see the same Arnold (to no fault of his own because, hey, we age) when I see anything about this movie, in addition to the fact that it just looks bad an unnecessary.

 

[Zantera]

I think Stallone did a smart thing by doing Rocky and Rambo as a combo after a streak of underwhelming movies, and they both put him back on the map. Rocky especially is one of those movies where Stallone gets to show a more dramatic side, and when you're 70 that's probably the easiest kind of role you can do, if you have the chops for it. Being an action hero at that age, it starts looking silly, unless you make it more grounded in reality. I feel like Arnold COULD pull off the dramatic part, but none of his major movie franchises would really be open for another hit, like Rocky was. As much as I would love another Predator, it would be kinda silly with Arnold in his 70s running around in the jungle again.

I feel like Maggie showed us what Arnold CAN do, but most of the times he plays that guy we loved 25-30 years ago. IF Arnold is gonna continue making action movies, I think he's ripe to play an older man in a revenge story, a movie that wouldn't be over the top, but more grounded in reality. I think of that movie Michael Caine did a few years ago, Harry Brown or something. An old guy who for whatever reason takes law into his own hands and does something, gets revenge, or whatever. As long as its played seriously and not Arnold flying in, hanging from a helicopter.

 

[Blue42]

2.3M in previews.

Awful for Genisys. It will make less than Salvation which is not what the studio wanted since Arnold was brought back and this had 3D and IMAX.

 

[Destructus86]

I can't get over the irony that the director said Marvel was changing his work too much (which turned out great!!) and then he makes a film with full creative control in an established franchise....and it sucks.

 

[Slushy]

Those of you praying for a new Conan movie with Arnold better pray this movie doesn't absolutely bomb.

Yeah because studios can't afford to make a $20 million film.

I kinda feel bad for Arnold. I mean, he got paid a truckload. But since his comeback, he hasn't been in any movies that have connected with audiences. I thought he was good in Escape Plan and Sabotage but no one saw those either.

You can only do the same type of movies before audiences get tired of you. Ask Van Damme and Seagal.

 

[Defacto]

This movie has no ****ing style! Just look at the posters. The first two:

And then Genisys:

Generic photoshopped crap! Basically how the movies are, too.

 

[Loki882]

I'd like to see him do more dramatic roles. Maggie shows that he can do it. For example, if he wants to play a cop, fine. But make it less of a "action" cop and more of a detective/who-done-it/mystery-solver cop.

 

[Loki882]

This movie has no ****ing style! Just look at the posters. The first two:

And then Genisys:

Generic photoshopped crap! Basically how the movies are, too.

That's how most big blockbusters posters are these days.

 

[Lily Adler]

Yep, lazy posing with BAYSPLOSIONS in the background... AT AN ANGLE!!!

 

[terry78]

^That smiley seems to imply that you enjoy the baysplosions in lieu of decrying them.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Yep, lazy posing with BAYSPLOSIONS in the background... AT AN ANGLE!!!

Just look at the first poster again. It started out as a cult 80's scifi movie with a shoe string budget. It has now blown up to this over stylized Hollywood machine

 

[Galactus123]

This movie has no ****ing style! Just look at the posters. The first two:

And then Genisys:

Generic photoshopped crap! Basically how the movies are, too.

They had poster like that:

 

[JackMercy]

Yeah because studios can't afford to make a $20 million film.

Who said Legend of Conan would only cost $20 mil.?

Regardless. It's not about whether they can afford it, it's about whether they think it's worth investing in, and its profit potential (and more often, it's about how much money the deals in and of themselves can generate prior to any production). And if one has developed a recent rep of not making a profit, well...

Scenario. I used to be a millionaire, but I went away and became a chef for ten years. Now I'm returning to the business that got me started, but my mojo seems to be gone.

You give me $500,000, I promise that you will make at least 50% profit on what you invest in me. The first four projects I invest $400,000 in fail to produce a profit, and even lose some money. The fifth breaks even.

I knock on your door. Would you invest another $500,000 in me?

 

[Rowsdower!]

I still wish Arnold would return to the Predator franchise. That's one franchise that has proven it can't really be successful without him, and his return to it would actually make sense (more than an aging robot, anyway). Predators show up to attack a city or a bunch of troops in the jungle, and the government goes and seeks out the guy who actually killed one. Arnie could be living alone as a semi-crazy survivalist out in the woods, setting up traps like he made in the first film.

 

[Supernova]

Who said Legend of Conan would only cost $20 mil.?

It's not about whether they can afford it, it's about whether they think it's worth investing in, and its profit potential (and more often, it's about how much money the deals in and of themselves can generate prior to any production).

Regardless...

Scenario. I used to be a millionaire, but I went away and became a chef for ten years. Now I'm returning to the business that got me started, but my mojo seems to be gone.

You give me $500,000, I promise that you will make 50% profit on what you invest in me. The first four projects I invest $400,000 in fail to produce a profit, and even lose some money. The fifth breaks even.

I knock on your door. Would you invest another $500,000 in me?

Bingo, studios dont make these films to break even or small profits, they wanna kill it everytime out the gate. If this tanks or breaks even then ot
Might be over for arnd getting big budgets again.

 

[chamber-music]

The critics have not been kind to Courtney and E.Clarke. I've recently watched Courtney in some aussie film on Netflix called Felony. I didn't think much of Courtney one way or the other honestly. My suspicion is, "not a leading man."

Courtney has a solid niche as jerk personality villains as seen in Jack Reacher, Divergent and I, Frankenstein.

Courtney just comes off as bland and forgettable in everything else I've seen him in like Unbroken and Spartacus.

 

[Supernova]

I still wish Arnold would return to the Predator franchise. That's one franchise that has proven it can't really be successful without him, and his return to it would actually make sense (more than an aging robot, anyway). Predators show up to attack a city or a bunch of troops in the jungle, and the government goes and seeks out the guy who actually killed one. Arnie could be living alone as a semi-crazy survivalist out in the woods, setting up traps like he made in the first film.

Or just be an ian malcom type in lost world where he told his story but the goverment made him look crazy to the public by discrediting him. He has a situation come up where his son is in south amaerica somewhere on a mission and gets caught prisioner. Arnold goes into to get him and doesnt realize 2 predators are there stalking and he and his son along with locals get caught in there crossfires. Twist is the government used his Son as bait to lure both arnold and predators there for there own technological gain. The government knows of the predators existence from both films and a minor mention of avp.

Film ends with a distress signal to the home predator world and an army of predators is since 1 of the 2 predators killed was a high ranking elder. Ensue sequel.

 

[Boom]

I still wish Arnold would return to the Predator franchise. That's one franchise that has proven it can't really be successful without him, and his return to it would actually make sense (more than an aging robot, anyway). Predators show up to attack a city or a bunch of troops in the jungle, and the government goes and seeks out the guy who actually killed one. Arnie could be living alone as a semi-crazy survivalist out in the woods, setting up traps like he made in the first film.

I'd watch that.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Or just be an ian malcom type in lost world where he told his story but the goverment made him look crazy to the public by discrediting him. He has a situation come up where his son is in south amaerica somewhere on a mission and gets caught prisioner. Arnold goes into to get him and doesnt realize 2 predators are there stalking and he and his son along with locals get caught in there crossfires. Twist is the government used his Son as bait to lure both arnold and predators there for there own technological gain. The government knows of the predators existence from both films and a minor mention of avp.

Film ends with a distress signal to the home predator world and an army of predators is since 1 of the 2 predators killed was a high ranking elder. Ensue sequel.

Damn, that's an even better idea than mine.

 

[dark_b]

i hope Shane Black writtes and directs a predator movie. with Arnold or not. it would be great if he was part of the story.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Just saw it, i enjoyed it. It wasn't as good as the first two but it certainly wasn't awful.

The audience i was in really liked it, they were laughing and some clapped at the end.

 

[Destructus86]

My problem is the movie just didn't feel serious enough...it felt cartoony. T2 had a weight of tension too it.