Terminator: Genisys - Part 7

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yeah Arnold was on point, I really liked him in this, he is the main reason why I saw this. if they just did a remake of this and cast everybody including his character i would be meh. but with Arnie it adds something to this weirdness of a movie.
 
Okay, I just saw this and came home about 30 mins ago and I've been trying to gather my thoughts on it. Here goes:

So, this was horrific. Let me start by saying that credits running 12 minutes into the movie is never a good thing, for me it's annoying. Especially when you have locations and dates being displayed on the screen in among random peoples names appearing.

''Kyle Reese is a good man.'' says Pops... Eh when? Certainly not in this movie. Reese in this version is IRRITATING as hell and once he meets up with Sarah all he does is question everything and moan, it was pissing me off.

Lee Byung-hun was wasted as the T-1000 as was J.K. Simmons wasted on his absolutely pointless and bumbling fool of a character.

Pops' rehashed lines from the old movies were awkward.

''Genisys, the killer APP'', the flashbacks and the flashforwards... what a mess.
 
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also I have to say the score was very nice, nice use of bits of T1 and I liked the redo of the T2 theme they used in the end credits.
 
The T-1000 in this was no where near as calculating as the 1992 one. He could have easily killed Reese in the alley, and in the sports shop. The 1992 movie T-1000 would have simply walk past those two cops and killed Reese. But i have to wonder why he wanted Reese and young Sarah (from 1973) dead in the first place? If Conner/Skynet was the one who sent him back, he needed both Sarah and Reese to 'mate' in order to give birth to John..:confused:
 
Got back from seeing it. Was not expecting to like it, at all. The trailer made it look horrible.

I liked E. Clarke as Sarah Connor. Wasn't expecting much from Jai Courtney and he played the part as horrible as I thought he would. Never liked his casting. Always thought he was too bulky for the part. Made Kyle Reese look like he had never missed a meal as part of his workout regiment in what is supposed to be a post-apocalyptic world. I like Jason Clarke. I just didn't like him as John Connor.

I liked how they returned to Cameron's vision of the future war being fought with plasma/laser/weaponary. I suppose Salvation would have done it too in it's sequels. A terminator working as a delivery driver looked so ****in' stupid. In fact, the future regarding the captured humans was off. If I remember right, they were put into hard labor, factories that built the machines. While the film did a really good overall job retelling/recreating T1 scenes. Kyles' story on how he first met Connor didn't match what I remembered. They handle the time traveling pretty well. So well it made the entire film feasible. But it now looks like they'll be venturing into "Sliders" territory if the franchise continues.

7/10 is my score. Franchise rank: T2, T1, T5, T4, T3.
 
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Ok - just saw the movie, i was enjoying everything until John Connor showed up in 2017 - it just didn't make sense and seems rout of character - it just didn't fit from what we knew from previous instalments. Why send JC back?

Also, they destroyed Skynet, why didn't some one say,
'why bother sending anything back in time, we've won, proof is here, skynnet is down - anything we do now, won't change our past'. Which is true. All it made me think was that there were other dimensions.

What i did like is seeing the moment they sent the original terminators back - that was cool.

Arnold was great in it. A couple of cheesy moments, but i got over it (the bad cops theme tune as an example).

It wasn't a bad film, but it wasn't great and it missed a beat. It felt like Superman Returns, in that it tried to revisit something already done, in order to get more life out of it, but backed it into a corner where it can't really escape.
 
Yeah, the movie was good up until J.K Simmons showed up in 2017
 
How i would have handled this.

You want a soft reboot, for a new generation. You don't want to ruin what's come before - like the first two.

So, you have JC take out Sky net, in in this movie, then he realises he still has a prophecy to full fill - to send Kyle Reece Back, plus another Terminator for T2.

All he knows, was that a terminator was sent back to 84 along with Kyle, then 2 again to the events of T2, then 2 again for T3. He knows he has to make this happen.

So whilst the troops are happy that sky net is down, he knows his job is not yet finished (that's the problem with time travel). He may wrestle with himself and think - skynet is down, job done, therefor it shouldn't matter - but, obviously, he sticks to his mission.

This is where old Terminator comes into play. He literally comes out of hiding, and helps JC with the time machine (i forget it's name in the franchise) explaining what needs to be done next. He explains that JC should already know that a bad one has just been sent to T1, T2 and T3 periods and they need to counter act it, but also, sky net sent two more that need to be dealt with, as part of the bigger picture.

It's old Arnie that then helps KR get ready to go back for his mission in T1, then he reprogrammes a couple of Terminators for the events T2, T3. This could be a very cool moment with CGI interpretations.

We could see each time travelling and a small montage of those events.

Then, he explains another mission - out in Dubai or say perhaps Asia or Europe and get's JC to send two more Terminators, of any model to certain time zones.

JC doesn't have any recollection of this, but why would he - it was never in his life time, or personal experience.

We then focus on the two Terminators - old arnie is telling them, or perhaps giving him data information of his mission.

We then see from the this new terminator's perspective him going back in time and from there, we have a whole new movie.

Then the sequel could focus on the other terminator sent back.

That way, the time line is intact. No need to re do, or change the past - it's more of a side step, to say, whilst these movies happened, this also happened.

We could see two new, different adventures, where the person being protected could bring a whole different dimension to the franchise.

The Terminator could be any actor/actress.

We can then have a movie of the future, post sky net, see them rebuild a new world.

And the old Terminator - he could be the one that is sent back to dubai or europe and part of his mission is to wait until sky net is down, to help JC. Circle of life and all that.

Personally, the new terminator should be Michael B Jordan

(jokes)
 
I was absolutely giddy at the opening sequence and finally seeing the Future War and the moments leading up to sending Kyle back to 1984.

We've been told and known about this sequence of events for 30 years and to actually see it played out was just plain fun.
 
I was absolutely giddy at the opening sequence and finally seeing the Future War and the moments leading up to sending Kyle back to 1984.

We've been told and known about this sequence of events for 30 years and to actually see it played out was just plain fun.

This.
 
I liked a few bits of the future war scenes but those are mostly just watching Arnie stepping into the TDE which was only a few seconds. I didn't like the banter between Kyle and John, it felt so forced especially Johns cheesy laugh.
 
It's a really damn good point. Because of Marvel and Lord of the Rings everyone wants an automatic trilogy and a ****ing shared universe or multiverse. It's beyond moronic.

Also, maybe we have to recognize that what happened with Thor: The Dark World wasn't all Marvel's fault.

Yep, because Marvel can do no wrong... except IM3. :o
 
Taylor did a much much much better job with The Dark World than this. I saw Genisys earlier this week and Thor yesterday, hard to believe it's even the same guy. Not that he has a distinct style yet or anything, he's still green, but Dark World has more heart and substance.
 
Substance might be the last word I'd use to describe The Dark World but that's just me.
 
There's more to the family dynamic in The Dark World than whatever Genisys tried to run past us. Thor and Loki, Loki and Odin, Thor and Odin, Frigga. It makes for quite a few interesting scenes. I could make a sandwich right now that has more substance than Terminator: Genisys.

I'm usually not so vocal about disliking a movie, not proud about it, but damn.
 
just got back from watching this movie and i actually enjoyed it

it was nice seeing Arnold once again and the future scenes with the war between Skynet and the human resistance were pretty awesome. those dark future scenes were more in line with the teases we got from T1 and T2

personally, i would love to see a sequel because there are a lot of unanswered questions with the alternate timeline/universes and what not
 
The T-1000 in this was no where near as calculating as the 1992 one. He could have easily killed Reese in the alley, and in the sports shop. The 1992 movie T-1000 would have simply walk past those two cops and killed Reese. But i have to wonder why he wanted Reese and young Sarah (from 1973) dead in the first place? If Conner/Skynet was the one who sent him back, he needed both Sarah and Reese to 'mate' in order to give birth to John..:confused:

None of it makes sense. It was just a bunch of drunk screenwriters saying "moar robots moar" with every scene. Doesn't make sense that this terminator should be sent back? Doesn't make sense that it should be trying to kill Sarah Connor? Shut up because we're trying to be cooooool
 
None of it makes sense. It was just a bunch of drunk screenwriters saying "moar robots moar" with every scene. Doesn't make sense that this terminator should be sent back? Doesn't make sense that it should be trying to kill Sarah Connor? Shut up because we're trying to be cooooool

"Everyone loved the ones where they were trying to kill Sarah, so let's do that. And everyone loved Arnold, so we need him back. And T2 is one of the best action movies of all time, so let's shove the T-1000 in there. Oh and let's throw in evil Arnold too! Hmm I think we're missing something....what about another Terminator? Let's make John a Terminator, long time fans will love this twist!"
 
I enjoyed it. I didn't watch any trailers so I was surprised when John Conners was a terminator. I think they gave too much away in the trailers. I was having fun the first part of the movie and just when it was getting boring they did they reveal. Then I was like where are they taking this? And how will they turn him back or kill him? Thet studios messed this movie up.
 
Looks like Alan Taylor can't blame the studio like he did with Thor 2 this time.
 
Liked it, didn't love it. Too much focus on making a trilogy (yadda yadda yadda). Not explaining the Matthew Smith/Skynet character was a big mistake! If the film doesn't get a follow up movie then we'll never know who sent "Pops!"

Overall I do want a sequel just to get to the bottom of things!
 
Spoiler or two.

Ok - just saw the movie, i was enjoying everything until John Connor showed up in 2017 - it just didn't make sense and seems rout of character - it just didn't fit from what we knew from previous instalments. Why send JC back?

Also, they destroyed Skynet, why didn't some one say,
'why bother sending anything back in time, we've won, proof is here, skynnet is down - anything we do now, won't change our past'. Which is true. All it made me think was that there were other dimensions.

What i did like is seeing the moment they sent the original terminators back - that was cool.

Arnold was great in it. A couple of cheesy moments, but i got over it (the bad cops theme tune as an example).

It wasn't a bad film, but it wasn't great and it missed a beat. It felt like Superman Returns, in that it tried to revisit something already done, in order to get more life out of it, but backed it into a corner where it can't really escape.

Huh? The resistance didn't send John back, SkyNet did.
 
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