Terminator: Genisys - Part 7

[titansupes]

God, I really want to see this movie. Two weeks.

 

[TheVileOne]

God, I really want to see this movie. Two weeks.

You're really not missing much, other than some fun, brainless action sequences...but with dull characters.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Days of Future Past is by far the best Marvel film since T2.

Fixed

 

[DrDoom]

I actually liked it, I see movies like this and Jurassic world with my brain turned off.

Actually got kind of emotional at the end when the Terminator said "take care of my Sarah"

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It was also before 3D became a horrendous overused gimmick.

This is true. People were in love with 3D because of Avatar. Both audiences and studios. Look what Avatar did for Alice.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The Flash isn't a movie.

Still better.

Nah, I love both. But nothing has given me the Terminator vibe the way the first season of the Flash did. The consequences, the morality, the need. They also seem to kind of play by the same rules. DoFP plays far more by the BttF rules.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Still better.

Nah, I love both. But nothing has given me the Terminator vibe the way the first season of the Flash did. The consequences, the morality, the need. They also seem to kind of play by the same rules. DoFP plays far more by the BttF rules.

I love the Flash too but other than time travel, it has little in common with Terminator. Days of Future Past has all the classic Terminator staples. Post apocalyptic future, killer robots and an attempt to prevent the dark future by altering the past.

Granted all of that originated from Claremont's classic story but the movie adaption and how it was written and filmed is very much inspired from T2.

Check out this video:

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[DeGenerate10]

Did they completely ignore Salvation in this movie?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I love the Flash too but other than time travel, it has little in common with Terminator. Days of Future Past has all the classic Terminator staples. Post apocalyptic future, killer robots and an attempt to prevent the dark future by altering the past.

Granted all of that originated from Claremont's classic story but the movie adaption and how it was written and filmed is very much inspired from T2.

Check out this video:

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I have seen that video actually. And while I agree with those things, I also look at the inner workings of the time travel and the results. Specifically how [BLACKOUT]Barry and Eobard function as Kyle and the Terminator[/BLACKOUT].

DoFP is all about changing the future. It is a fundamentally different idea, different message from Terminator. So while it has the same window dressing, it is a different concept, almost entirely. DoFP on the surface reads like Terminator, but functions like BttF.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I have seen that video actually. And while I agree with those things, I also look at the inner workings of the time travel and the results. Specifically how [BLACKOUT]Barry and Eobard function as Kyle and the Terminator[/BLACKOUT].

DoFP is all about changing the future. It is a fundamentally different idea, different message from Terminator. So while it has the same window dressing, it is a different concept, almost entirely. DoFP on the surface reads like Terminator, but functions like BttF.

T2 is completely about changing the future. That's the central core of the film's essence.

Other than time travel I don't really see any thing like Terminator in the Flash. In DOFP, they're literally trying to stop a post apocalyptic future that's ruled by killer robots.

 

[Serpico Jones]

I'm currently re-watching T3 and Salvation and I have to say that the third film is by far the worst. Gotta give McG some props for his action directing which I think was really damn good in TS.

 

[Serpico Jones]

Christian Bale grunts all of his dialogue in TS.

 

[Serpico Jones]

This is the only Sam Worthless performance that I actually somewhat enjoy.

 

[TheVileOne]

I really just want the Terminator franchise to die and stop these horrendous PG-13 reboots and half-baked sequel attempts.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Did they completely ignore Salvation in this movie?

Basically. Salvation was about Kyle and John meeting for the first time but TG has them meet for the first time in the very first scene in a very different context. Also John's grasp on the timeline and how it affects the future is completely different.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

T2 is completely about changing the future. That's the central core of the film's essence.

Other than time travel I don't really see any thing like Terminator in the Flash. In DOFP, they're literally trying to stop a post apocalyptic future that's ruled by killer robots.

Except they can't change the future, because it is a loop. None of it happens unless it happens. That is why Cameron cut the original epilogue from T2. It wouldn't have made sense. That is the sad truth about Terminator. For John to live, the war must happen. He must send his father to die. Have you watched the first season of the Flash? That is exactly what happens with [BLACKOUT]Barry and his mother[/BLACKOUT].

Spoiler

Second Barry is always there and always told to stop by his future self. Because he knows ehat is suppose to happen.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Except they can't change the future, because it is a loop. None of it happens unless it happens. That is why Cameron cut the original epilogue from T2. It wouldn't have made sense. That is the sad truth about Terminator. For John to live, the war must happen. He must send his father to die. Have you watched the first season of the Flash? That is exactly what happens with [BLACKOUT]Barry and his mother[/BLACKOUT].

Spoiler

Second Barry is always there and always told to stop by his future self. Because he knows ehat is suppose to happen.

I've seen every episode of The Flash.

Getting back to T2, Cameron wrote and filmed the movie with the intention that Judgment Day was prevented and that future could be changed. He cut the original ending for different reasons but the intention was always the same.

Here's a quote from the man himself:

I don't think [the audience] needed to know for sure that things were going to be different, as much as they needed to just have that hope that things will be different, so ending it with a highway at night, you know, the future is a dark highway at night, you don't know what's down there, but it ends with hope

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Salvation was on TNT earlier today and I don't hate it and it's somewhat watchable but I acknowledge that it is a bad film that's really corny. Bad dialogue, mediocre to bad performances from the actors with the exception of Anton Yelchin who is doing above average work. The worst thing about the movie is that it's meandering, a whole lot of nothing happens in the film. The visual effects are still really good though and the action scenes are decent but not Cameron levels. My favorite part of the film is the end when the Throwanator is trying to kill Connor because of the nostalgic throwbacks to the original film.

I realized a while ago that the film is still following the Terminator formula in a lot of ways. Marcus Wright is in a way a time traveler who has to protect someone and they decided to make the time traveler a human and a robot, so split the difference. No Wright didn't get to the future via a time machine but he is not of that time. I can see seeds of a good and or interesting film in Salvation but those are only seeds unfortunately.

 

[Snow Queen]

Yelchin was good casting, I think. Such a waste.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I've seen every episode of The Flash.

Getting back to T2, Cameron wrote and filmed the movie with the intention that Judgment Day was prevented and that future could be changed. He cut the original ending for different reasons but the intention was always the same.

Here's a quote from the man himself:

I don't think [the audience] needed to know for sure that things were going to be different, as much as they needed to just have that hope that things will be different, so ending it with a highway at night, you know, the future is a dark highway at night, you don't know what's down there, but it ends with hope

But he cut it. And we most also consider the direction they went with T3 and more importantly the hints in the first film and the second film. Namely, the only way tech was able to advance far enough to make the machines was what happened in the first Terminator. Also, again, John's father. How was John born the first time without Kyle? Where was the picture come from?

 

[Golgo-13]

Yelchin was good casting, I think. Such a waste.

I thought he was one of the many things wrong with TS.

 

[Snow Queen]

I thought he was one of the many things wrong with TS.

To each their own, I suppose. I wouldn't say he's my first pick, but I think he could have pulled it off in a better movie.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yelchin was good casting, I think. Such a waste.

His talent is being wasted in general. The kid can act. But nah, lets give Jai Courtney some more roles.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I liked Yelchin as a young Kyle Reese.

Also the movie is on again right now.

 

[Mysteryman]

Just came from the film.
I really liked it .
My ranking:
T1.
T2.
TG.
TS.
T3.