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Just came back from it, I didn't think it was too bad. The plot is pretty straight foward, didn't really add anything big to the Terminator universe, but I didn't expect it to.

I thought Bale was okay, Sam was solid, and Yelchin was good. Bryce was underused as was Ironside and Common (though I don't think he act all that much so..) and the rest of the cast was "meh".

The action was intense, especially in the 3rd act, so no complaints there. The music was a letdown imo. We get bits of the T-theme in few scenes, but overall the score just didn't feel Terminator enough. I wish we could have gotten some of the intense and creepiness of T1 & T2.

Overall, I enjoyed it and came out satisfied, but I wanted more. 7.9/ 10
 
yeah, Terminators have never really been good at their job if you think about it...

How so? One saved Connor from a better model in T2. Then another T-800 saved Connor from a much better model in 3. Then a T-800 goes on to kill him in the future. Not to mention the scene in the future we see of a T-800 getting into a Tech-Com base and killing people like they're suppose to.
 
Did anyone else get a feel from the first chunk of this movie (as well as the chase scene with Marcus toward the end) similar to Children of Men and The Wrestler? I think that's part of what made the action so great... It really felt like you were in it.
 
I'm referring to the fact that the 3 sent back from Skynet have all failed...
 
'Terminator Salvation' Movie Review:

I've seen worse films than this, don't get me wrong, I've endured hours upon hours of 'Scary Movie' remakes, prequels and whatnot. This film is far from terrible, but it has one thing missing that all three of the other 'Terminator' films had (yes, even 'Terminator 3'): heart.

This film is an empty-minded video-game. I haven't seen 'Star Trek' yet (unfortunately), but I'm willing to bet that this is the polar-opposite of that movie in terms of delivering a new standard to the franchise. This movie ('Terminator Salvation') is living in the past. Riddled with references upon references from the previous installments, this feels like it's not even a movie. It's just one, big theme-park ride; constantly reminding you of how much better the first two were. Hopping from one set-piece to another.

Thankfully, the film's action sequences are great. The film's opening (title) sequence was good. And some may say that a certain somebody's cameo was "great", but how could you possibly count it as such when the real person (obviously) wasn't even there.

Alike a lot of people have mentioned, Sam Worthington as Marcus Wright in this film was pretty darned good. Certainly the standout of the cast. But, I really do have a lot of appreciation for Bale. While Worthington (arguably) gave the best performance of the piece, you can sense that Bale was the one to keep it somewhat tolerable.

But, of course, an actor can't make a movie on his own. And that's where the director comes in... I've been talking with people about how McG was obviously pleased by his work. And I don't mind that, he's obviously been walking down the street with a little strut, with the trailers thrilling-up audiences all over the internet. But it's unfortunate that he doesn't seem to be good for anything else but building up false-hype for a mediocre-movie. I could see how many people saving up their dollars to go see this film may come out to have dug the hell out of it. But that's just not me. I was anticipating this film, I was going to see it, I wanted to see it, I did, and it just turned out that I really didn't like it. It's nice to know that this franchise may get a second chance to better what this film failed to do, but it may not turn out to be much if they decide to reel Mr. McG back in.

Now, I hate blaming McG alone. It could've been the producers, writers, or anyone else involved who made this film turn out to be pretty disappointing (as far as I'm concerned). But after listening to Bale's tirade on-set... I can't help but have my own biased opinion set, and my finger is pointed straight towards the one man in the director's chair.

I said it before that some of the performances I found were really great. But that doesn't say much when it only counts for about three cast members. Ironside, Bloodgood, Howard, and a list of others. Bryce Dallas Howard was the one performance which surprised me to my own disliking. She wasn't as bad as the ever-annoying Claire Danes from 'Terminator 3', but I just really didn't like her character at all. Probably because I wished that she was played a little bit tougher. But to me, she just seems to be playing Gwen Stacy with an attitude. Ironside and Bloodgood... No ----ing comment.

Once again, the action sequences were great. The CG-work done on the movie was phenomenal. Even for a DP ----tin' around on-set, the cinematography was first-rate and epic. And some of the performances were good, as well (other one to mention would be Anton Yelchin as Kyle Reese, whom does a firm job as one of the film's crucial key characters). But ultimately, big explosions and action don't matter when the characters are as hollow as a chocolate Easter-bunny. Especially when based off of two extraordinary films that will forever survive with the motion of mankind.

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Rating: 53% ~ Visual flare may spark some interest into general moviegoers, but it regrettably fails to deliver anything beyond that.
 
Did anyone else get a feel from the first chunk of this movie (as well as the chase scene with Marcus toward the end) similar to Children of Men and The Wrestler? I think that's part of what made the action so great... It really felt like you were in it.
Yes, especially with the Harvester. I was like wow!
 
Yes, especially with the Harvester. I was like wow!

Great scene. The Harvester sound effects were off the chart as well.

Speaking of being "in the scene," did you also get that vibe from the early helicopter crash with Bale? What a thrilling moment. Felt like it was straight out of Call of Duty.
 
I didn't think Sam Worthington was that great. I frankly can't understand why people are going crazy about his performance. Hands down, the best acting and character in this movie was from Anton Yelchin as Kyle Reese.
 
I didn't think Sam Worthington was that great. I frankly can't understand why people are going crazy about his performance. Hands down, the best acting and character in this movie was from Anton Yelchin as Kyle Reese.
It's a matter of free opinion, mate.
 
Terminator: Salvation currently holds a 33% on RT with an average rating of 5.1/10. Out of 112 reviews counted 37 Fresh & 75 Rotten.

Latest review excerpts:

"So how is the latest installment in the long-running Terminator franchise, you ask? Loud! ... You'll feel the entire time like you were trapped in a video game."

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"Somehow along the way everyone fooled themselves into thinking that Terminator Salvation was going to be a good movie and not a slapped together, franchise expanding piece of corporate film making. Jokes on us."

- DC Examiner
 
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Settle down, fella.

It's just incredibly annoying when someone asks a valid question that others might not agree on or they might have a problem with but instead of answering it with details or possible facts or just ignoring it, you chose to give an answer showing how sensitive you are when someone has a difference of opinion.

You could have just not answered or you could have simply gave some reasons why you liked his performance instead of simply stating the obvious. Of course everyone has their own opinions.
 
Um...no ****, or Duh! I think he was asking for some educated and detailed opinions on the Why?

Not really, I mean, they have the right to feel the way they want to feel. I just don't understand after watching the movie why people are going crazy over this guy. I probably never will.
 
Remember that poignant scene in James Cameron’s 1984 classic The Terminator when, during a temporary lull from Arnie-fuelled mayhem, time-travelling resistance hero Kyle Reese looked into actress Linda Hamilton’s anxious, determined eyes and, with unabashed sincerity, told her: “I came across time for you, Sarah. I love you. I always have.” That solitary moment, which choked up an entire generation of hard-wired action fanatics, single-handedly elevated the film from its B-movie genre roots and flashy hardware and pyrotechnics, and exposed a very gentle, organic heart at its core. The Terminator, and its two sequels to varying degrees, understood that the enduring strength and, dare I say, beauty of the series laid in its ability to thematically explore the human condition, and stress the importance of mankind’s compassion, inner-drive and ingenuity, and willingness to fight for greater ideals, in defining and separating us from the omnipresent technology around us.

Regrettably, it pains me to say, the fourth film in the venerable science-fiction franchise, the semi-pretentiously titled Terminator Salvation, seems less inspired by the integrity of mankind, than by the metal marauders clomping noisily around the frame. It’s technically state-of-the-art, unyielding and callous, devoid of higher-brain function or, most importantly, a soul.

Set in the washed-out, post-Judgment Day landscape of 2018, Salvation picks up a few years after the events of T3, as small fractured bands of resistance fighters across the globe battle valiantly against the sinister Skynet program and its army of deadly Terminator machines. Acting as the voice of dissent is John Connor (Christian Bale), a battle-weary pillar of strength, who is destined to one day lead mankind to victory. Under constant attack from tin-plated killers and at odds with his unfathomably stupid superiors, Connor and his men have discovered a new signal-weapon which may help turn the tide of the conflict.

Conversely, across the blistered warzone, a mysterious figure named Marcus Wright (Sam Worthington) has emerged, mud-caked and amnesia-addled, onto the scene. A former death row inmate, who possesses a secret which makes him as much an asset as a threat, Marcus quickly comes into contact with the youthful Kyle Reese (Anton Yelchin), a resourceful rebel whose continued survival is vital for humanity’s future. However, after Reese is captured by a gargantuan “Harvester” Terminator, Wright finds himself brought into contact with the intensely guarded Connor who, for the possible advancement of his cause and continued livelihood, must choose whether or not to trust this capable stranger of dubious origin.

Directed by Charlie’s Angels mastermind McG, Terminator Salvation feels curiously distant from its forebears, which mixed rudimentary science-fiction-based ideas amongst the skull-rattling chaos and propulsive pursuits. To be sure though, the helmer does present some memorable on-screen mech-anarchy, such as during a grittily constructed burnt black-top chase featuring an unwieldy plow-truck and automated machine-gun firing motorcycles, as well as in a visceral Children of Men-style helicopter attack. Those attending the film for pure action-porn will no doubt be more than satisfied, and McG shows a real flare for comprehensible, large-scale pandemonium – although he visibly needs work on his close quarters combat shooting, judging from the film’s clunky climactic mano-a-machino bout – and his clever blending of CG and practical elements goes a long way towards not breaking Salvation’s spell.

But to quote Macbeth (original, I know), the whole concussive enterprise feels like a whole lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. The script, by T3 writers John D. Brancato and Michael Ferris – not to mention numerous uncredited scribes – feels vacant and anticlimactic. Rather than build a compelling universe, or craft characters who feel like more than cardboard place-holders (Worthington and Yelchin being the only exceptions), the filmmakers were either entirely placing their faith on future sequels to provide detail or interest, or were simply in it for a quick ‘n easy paycheck. It’s all somewhat aggravating, especially when one considers how the Marcus character could have been used intelligently to further expand and redefine the series’ long-held thematic focus.

The other big problem is Bale - whose preparation regimen seems to have consisted of gargling gravel and nixing fibre from his diet – who is a one-note bore, and never remotely convincing as a prospective iconic warrior-leader who could rally and inspire the faith of his people. Gruff and short-fused, he’s consistently unpleasant to watch and, more than once, comes close to crossing into self-parody, as when he heatedly barks orders at a quivering mute girl.

Perhaps what makes Terminator Salvation all the more disconcerting is that it feels factory-assembled and joyless. Unlike James Cameron’s first two films, it’s perfectly content to pay short-shrift to its legacy and aim solely for the empty-calorie thrills of a witless contemporary generic blockbuster. After two silly hours it becomes impossible to differentiate between the deteriorating glow emanating from a mutilated Terminator’s crimson-red eye and the franchise’s once vibrant creative spark slowly being snuffed out.

2.5 out of 5
 
I quite enjoyed it. Sure it's a popcorn action flick but it's well done and a good first chapter.
 
I just got back from watching TS and I really don't see where all the hate is coming from honestly. I went to the theatre not knowing any spoilers, not reading the novelizations, or watching any of the film clips. So I was completely in the dark when it came to this film.

Overall I thought it was a solid, fun, and unique take on the Terminator mythology. If you go in expecting something to be better than T1 or T2 then you'll be disappointed. This is a new take on the Terminator storyline that showcases the very beginning of the war, so I fully don't expect to see the all out events until the sequel and the third sequel. I think people went in expecting a T1 and T2 film, they went in expecting to see a lot of things that they imagined and they set themselves up for disappointment.

I had a good time with the film and the action was great, Bale, Yelchin, and Worthington were very good in their roles.
 
Terminator: Salvation currently holds a 32% on RT with an average rating of 5.1/10. Out of 112 reviews counted 37 Fresh & 77 Rotten.
 
I didn't think Sam Worthington was that great. I frankly can't understand why people are going crazy about his performance. Hands down, the best acting and character in this movie was from Anton Yelchin as Kyle Reese.

Right now Sam's the best hope for the Green Lantern film. Have blind faith as we seek the Light.
 
I dunno, after seeing a few Sam Worthingon movies, I could go without him as Green Lantern right now.

Why is Sam Worthington the best hope to play Hal Jordan? Not according to his disappointing performance in Terminator.
 
It's just incredibly annoying when someone asks a valid question that others might not agree on or they might have a problem with but instead of answering it with details or possible facts or just ignoring it, you chose to give an answer showing how sensitive you are when someone has a difference of opinion.

You could have just not answered or you could have simply gave some reasons why you liked his performance instead of simply stating the obvious. Of course everyone has their own opinions.
Look, I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. 'Darthphere' just said that he didn't understand why people liked Worthington so much. I just wanted to say what I said, that people all have their own opinions on his performance. Whether they liked it or didn't, it seems that the majority felt Worthington did a pretty good job as Marcus Wright. But also, if the roles were switched between Yelchin and Worthington (if Yelchin was more so featured in the marketing campaign of the film), I'm pretty sure people would've prefered Yelchin over Worthington. For people generally tend to look to the leads to do good in their roles. And seemingly enough, most thought Worthington was (again) pretty good.

Again, I'm sorry to have set a spark in you. I know that it can get quite annoying when people post comments like that around here. I personally never liked receiving one-note answers or statements myself. So again, I apologize.
 

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