Terminator Salvation: Review Central

[Episode29]

If that tape had never gone public I wonder how much mention we would see of his shouting in the movie.

Tape recording, nothing!

I was referring to the fact that Bale has been playing intense/angry guy for a little bit too long now. Fortunately, he's had good material to work with and been able to show a certain level of charisma.

But when dealing with the scribblings offered to him by Salvation, he comes across as looking a little bit silly.

 

[bullets]

a hardened soldier can stil be shaken up after a helicopter crash provided he survives.
he can regain his composure but it would take time

 

[Matt]

User Ratings on RT has the movie in the 70s.

IMDB has it at 8.0

the people have spoken.

Not really. Online polls are incredibly easy to skew plus they represent a fairly small sample. The only real indication of public perception is the second week's box office as the kind of legs a movie has are usually a direction indication of its word of mouth.

 

[Episode29]

a hardened soldier can stil be shaken up after a helicopter crash provided he survives.
he can regain his composure but it would take time

LOL. You say this as if have experience in the field.

Care to share some tales?

 

[bullets]

Tape recording, nothing!

I was referring to the fact that Bale has been playing intense/angry guy for a little bit too long now. Fortunately, he's had good material to work with and been able to show a certain level of charisma.

But when dealing with the scribblings offered to him by Salvation, he comes across as looking a little bit silly.

His performance fit the role and that is probably a the reason they hired him

 

[Matt]

His performance fit the role and that is probably a the reason they hired him

I forget who, but someone said it perfectly earlier. Bale being hired was McG's first attempt to gain credit among the fans. Bale, in retrospect, wasn't right for this part. Bale doesn't come off as a beacon of hope or the type of person you would follow nor did he play the role as a leader. There are a lot of soldier type roles Bale would be great for. Solid Snake, springs to mind. John Connor, in retrospect, as someone who was stoked for Bale's casting, is not one of them. He played it too close to Batman. Now part of this is script, but part is also actor's choice. In retrospect, I think Eric Bana would've been better. Hell, just watch Troy. It may not be his finest movie, but he was both a tough, hardened warrior and an inspiring compassionate leader. Bale only got one aspect of Connor right and when you only emphasize one aspect, your character comes off as one dimensional.

 

[Kane52630]

I just came back from the theaters, and got to say to the naysayers that saw the movie, i have no idea what your talking about. Theres some minor aspects of the movie i didnt like but overall i cant wait to see T5, and i have to get it on bluray to see all the deleted scenes that were missing (most importantly Moon nude scene!!!!! lol)
either way i liked the movie, but yet i have to say with all the pacing issues (because some of the film was cut) ill give it a 8/10

 

[LostSon88]

If he is the hardened well trained soldier you have claimed he is in other posts as a justification for his lack of character, he would be perfectly calm. Elite soldiers (Seals, Rangers, Delta Force, etc) are trained to keep their composure under the most difficult and trying (both physically and mentally) of circumstances. So which is it?

The way I interpreted his delivery after the helicopter crash was that he was simply out of breath...I mean, he did just fight off a T-700.

He did sound like he was kinda gasping for breath and trying to regain composure...to me at least.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Not really. Online polls are incredibly easy to skew plus they represent a fairly small sample. The only real indication of public perception is the second week's box office as the kind of legs a movie has are usually a direction indication of its word of mouth.

I recall the Wolverine fans using the same stats and that movie has just been passed up by Star Trek at the boxoffice. Despite, you know, it opening to 85mil while Trek did 75mil in the fri sat sun period...Anywho for all I know the audience could love it but you aren't going to know by just looking at online polls.

 

[Darthphere]

You know what else too. I've been thinking about this movie all day and why I didn't like it more. But frankly, the movie was kind of boring. The action scenes looked great but they really didn't do anything to excite me. I mean, look at Star Trek, when the Enterprise comes out of warp on Vulcan and everything went to ****, that got me excited I was like "Holy ****!" There wasn't a single scene in Terminator Salvation that did that for me. But I also kind of blame myself because I saw way too many clips for this movie as well. So scenes like the Harvester scene were pretty much meh to me.

 

[LostSon88]

The fight with the T-800 didn't do ANYTHING for you? Not even a little...



I mean your feelings of the movie notwithstanding, that scene didn't give you even a goosebump or two?

 

[Darthphere]

The fight with the T-800 didn't do ANYTHING for you? Not even a little...



I mean your feelings of the movie notwithstanding, that scene didn't give you even a goosebump or two?

No, not at all. It felt pretty genericky fight scene to me.

 

[Matt]

The way I interpreted his delivery after the helicopter crash was that he was simply out of breath...I mean, he did just fight off a T-700.

He did sound like he was kinda gasping for breath and trying to regain composure...to me at least.

It is so hard to tell. Bale's voice when he does an American accent is always the same to me. A raspy, breathless growl.

 

[Kane52630]

and even when Connor uses his shotgun to try and kill the T-800 and didnt do anything and did that creepy turn

 

[Matt]

I recall the Wolverine fans using the same stats and that movie has just been passed up by Star Trek at the boxoffice. Despite, you know, it opening to 85mil while Trek did 75mil in the fri sat sun period...Anywho for all I know the audience could love it but you aren't going to know by just looking at online polls.

Well said.

You know what else too. I've been thinking about this movie all day and why I didn't like it more. But frankly, the movie was kind of boring. The action scenes looked great but they really didn't do anything to excite me. I mean, look at Star Trek, when the Enterprise comes out of warp on Vulcan and everything went to ****, that got me excited I was like "Holy ****!" There wasn't a single scene in Terminator Salvation that did that for me. But I also kind of blame myself because I saw way too many clips for this movie as well. So scenes like the Harvester scene were pretty much meh to me.

The fight with the T-800 didn't do ANYTHING for you? Not even a little...



I mean your feelings of the movie notwithstanding, that scene didn't give you even a goosebump or two?

The only action scene that did it for me was the gas station and high way chase. But only because there was a sense of suspense as I thought McG may do something daring like kill off the little kid. Alas, he was not so bold.

 

[Darthphere]

and even when Connor uses his shotgun to try and kill the T-800 and didnt do anything and did that creepy turn

Ok, you know what, there was one scene I said woah in my head. In the beginning when John just jumps into that silo and he rappels down. That was kind of cool.

 

[CFE]

Well,what can I say? You take movies wayyyyyyyyyyy too seriously. If you think watching top of the line movies makes you smarter only because they are the critically acclaimed type,then think again. All you're doing is over estimating your self importance and being legally insane.

YES!!!

Seriously, it's not a matter of people deserving more...it's a matter of people expecting too much.

There's nothing wrong with people having standards...but when they're a slave to them to the point that they can't even enjoy a film on a purely entertaining level?

Sucks to be them.

We'll just wait and see...though gut's telling me that the people calling the film boring are most likely wrong.

"Terminator 3" was boring (well made and overall tolerable...but boring) and I can't believe for a second that 'Salvation' is anywhere near that.

But we'll see...I'll have my review up tomorrow.

 

[Matt]

I thought T3's action sets were great, to be honest. Aside from the ending, they were its best quality.

 

[Hush]

Seeing the absolutely perfect render of 80"s arnold was nice, the fight kinda blew though.

 

[Kane52630]

Ok, you know what, there was one scene I said woah in my head. In the beginning when John just jumps into that silo and he rappels down. That was kind of cool.

:facepalm

 

[batman11]

Interesting to hear the opinions on the action scenes. I found the action in TS to be pretty thrilling. Come to think of it, for me, the whole movie was like one big thrill ride. But hey, I guess it's not gonna do it for everyone.

 

[Darthphere]

Seeing the absolutely perfect render of 80"s arnold was nice, the fight kinda blew though.

Yeah, the fight was pretty boring.

:facepalm

LOL! What?

 

[Darthphere]

Interesting to hear the opinions on the action scenes. I found the action in TS to be pretty thrilling. Come to think of it, for me, the whole movie was like one big thrill ride. But hey, I guess it's not gonna do it for everyone.

I don't know, the action scenes were really well done but they had no soul to them, if that makes sense.

 

[Kane52630]

LOL! What?

if that was your favorite action scene then :facepalm

 

[Matt]

My problem with the silo scene was it was the end of the battle. Like, the movie had a great action scene, but McG decided to deprive the audience of it.