Typical fanboy response. I've seen a ton of movies with Bale in it, besides the Dark Knight. The guy is a brilliant actor, but this movie is an embarassment.
I made the comparison to Connery being in LXG, and I stick to that. Unfortunately, Connery never made another film after that. Sad to see him end on such a sour note.
I've seen tons of movies with Bale in it too, and I firmly stand by my previously stated opinion that Bale acted
in character.
Bale had just survived a helicopter crash, he saw a lot of fellow soldiers dead, huge explosions going off nearby, and had just fought off a T-700. He was in a really intense state of mind, and likely out of breath. Were a normal person in his place he might not have been able to speak anything. The shock of the situation is why he spoke in such a hoarse voice.
I actually know from personal experience that a person can do strange things, like speak in a strange voice when they are in an intense state of mind.
Well everyone is entitled to their opinion, but for those on my side, we are hardly exaggerating. 34% on Rotten Tomatoes just about says it all.
73% user rating on RT, 8/10 IMDB rating with over 4,000 votes.
Don't go by what the people say. They're the reason why there are three Transporter movies. They are the ones whose mouths drop when they are shown pretty colors or a fast moving object.
What kind of silly logic is this??
The reason movies are made is because
people go to watch them, REGARDLESS of whether a movie is good or bad. Going by what the people say is the reason a movie like The Dark Knight was made. Batman Begins was made in part because WB responded to a lot of fan pressure to make a good Batman movie.
Bringing up the Transporter movies as examples is silly. All the Transporter movies have much lower IMDB scores, as well as lower RT user ratings than Salvation does. Only the first Transporter movie has a similar RT user score to Salvation, but still has a lower IMDB score.
If that tape had never gone public I wonder how much mention we would see of his shouting in the movie.
Likely very little, or possibly none at all.
You contradict yourself, VRICH. In one post you say that Bale's dry acting and John's lack of a character is justified because John Connor is a "hardened soldier." In another post you say something like the above quote. If Connor is a hardened soldier than wouldn't he be trained to be completely calm and normal even in such conditions?
If he is the hardened well trained soldier you have claimed he is in other posts as a justification for his lack of character, he would be perfectly calm. Elite soldiers (Seals, Rangers, Delta Force, etc) are trained to keep their composure under the most difficult and trying (both physically and mentally) of circumstances. So which is it?
But John Connor never was a Navy seal or part of Delta Force. He was never in the army officially. Only after Judgement Day was his first taste of army-like conditions. He was never formally trained in the army to specifically handle these type of conditions. His mom taught him how to be a hardened warrior, but that is far from being formally trained as a Navy Seal.
Besides, he is only human. You cannot expect John to act like a robot in the movie.
When he had the coarse voice on the radio, his actions were calm, and his emotions were in check. Him being human though, there was just more intensity in his voice after what he had been through.
Plus, fighting off a T-700 is not something Navy Seals, Rangers, or Delta Force train for now do they? That's what I thought.
Tape recording, nothing!
I was referring to the fact that Bale has been playing intense/angry guy for a little bit too long now. Fortunately, he's had good material to work with and been able to show a certain level of charisma.
But when dealing with the scribblings offered to him by Salvation, he comes across as looking a little bit silly.
Bale prefers to take on darker roles, which happen also often to be angry characters. Bale was offered the role of Marcus but he declined. It is Bale's choice on the kind of roles he accepts, and the sort of roles he feels comfortable playing.
Not really. Online polls are incredibly easy to skew plus they represent a fairly small sample. The only real indication of public perception is the second week's box office as the kind of legs a movie has are usually a direction indication of its word of mouth.
Thousands of votes is not an insignificant number.
I recall the Wolverine fans using the same stats and that movie has just been passed up by Star Trek at the boxoffice. Despite, you know, it opening to 85mil while Trek did 75mil in the fri sat sun period...Anywho for all I know the audience could love it but you aren't going to know by just looking at online polls.
Wolverine is 6.8/10 at IMDB with a significant number of votes, and it has a lower RT user rating than Salvation. So what "same stats" are you referring to?
You know what else too. I've been thinking about this movie all day and why I didn't like it more. But frankly, the movie was kind of boring. The action scenes looked great but they really didn't do anything to excite me. I mean, look at Star Trek, when the Enterprise comes out of warp on Vulcan and everything went to ****, that got me excited I was like "Holy ****!" There wasn't a single scene in Terminator Salvation that did that for me. But I also kind of blame myself because I saw way too many clips for this movie as well. So scenes like the Harvester scene were pretty much meh to me.
OMG, holy ****, Abrams-nausea-inducing-shaky-camera-angles and lens flares and explosions.
Unless you saw Salvation at a really bad theater, and unless you're just not human, I can't see how you were NOT excited by any of the action sequences in Salvation.
I saw Salvation at a theater with amazing sound, that had great clarity, volume, and bass. The picture quality was also really good. Most of the action sequences in Salvation floored me and were really intense.
But hey, to each their own.
