Terminator Salvation: Review Central

[AgentRed]

Any explanation on how

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Connor got into the submarine

?

 

[Eric Brooks]

He clicked his heals together

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Any explanation on how

Spoiler

Connor got into the submarine

?

Connor told the pilot to radio into Command and have divers ready to pick him up.

 

[Jackasscoley15]

Skynet has built a secret weapon and throughout the movie Kyle becomes tougher and then John has to say goodbye to his own father without his father knowing the truth and the true importance of the mission. Common's and Bryce's characters should become more important so that in the end, Common dies in the arms of John, and Bryce's character is captured. John has captured a T-800 using the code and he is left alone as everyone is gone. The movie ends with an inner monologue of how he still needs to stop the first judgment day from ever happening. The final shot could be of T-1000s being molded.

The next one starts with John going to Skynet with the T-800 to free his wife and send the T-800 back in time, and when they enter the time-travel room, they see a bunch of T-1000s entering too. The T-800 fights off the T-1000 and then jumps into the time warp after the T-1000. John and his wife have to kill the other one/two T-1000s using a newer weapon that John develops. Eventually you find out that the T-1000s were only prototypes for the ultimate weapon, the T-X. The T-X starts killing off the T-800's under the resistance's control, but in a last desperate attempt to take the world back, the resistance launches an attack on the main Skynet facility for the planet and a war between men and machines (T-800s) takes place as John and his wife enter the building. In the building, they fight off a bunch of T-800s and then just as John goes to deal the final blow to the mainframe, he is killed by a T-800. John's wife fights it off as long as she can and then she activates the code to get him to stall. She's about to take down the mainframe and realizes she needs more time as the T-X is coming. She boots the T-800's and tells him to go after the T-X. The Terminator's meet by the Time Warp Room and John's wife launches the self destruct. In a last attempt to save skynet, the T-X goes back in time to try and kill John, his wife and all of his generals with the T-800 following her. John's wife escapes just in the nick of time and the movie ends with the humans winning the battle for earth.

Holy bad idea, Asteroid-Man!

 

[BestGirl]

can somebody explain me why

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marcus has a human heart ??

that makes no sense at all, for me

I don't know, but he had to pass as human. It's possible Skynet thought it was too difficult to recreate human organs so they left him his heart, half his brain, and possibly some other organs? Marcus was clearly some sort of hybrid experiment so I wouldn't worry too much about it. I didn't think Marcus's heart was TS's biggest problem.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't even hate the movie but some of the fans of the flick are helping to lean towards that feeling.

 

[stargazer]

Oh I'm not going to awnswer that question MP because it's such and obvious answer and this isn't the dictionary thread.

It's no big deal though.

Of course you don't have to answer it if you don't want, I just felt like the your attitude towards 'those fanboys' on that post regarding epic movies/action, etc was very condescending, so I wanted to know what the word/concept of epic meant to you, that all.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Of course you don't have to answer it if you don't want, I just felt like the your attitude towards 'those fanboys' on that post regarding epic movies/action, etc was very condescending, so I wanted to know what the word/concept of epic meant to you, that all.

I'm always condescending to crazed fanboys and I don't apoligize for being that way.

Damn, you are acting like I was calling them A-holes or something.

I'm sorry but I'm going to say something when somebody says that the cheap looking anti characterization, dumb ass movie like Wolverine is "epic."

I mean f**king Wolverine? If Wolverine wasn't in that post I might have skipped it. I'm all up for liking dumb revenge action flicks but Wolverine wasn't one of the good ones. It's 2009 and every other X-film didn't have problems with rendering Wolve's blades but his own f**king movie does??? Thats just unforgivable.

 

[DarKJediKnight]

OMG dude I so totally boned on that post, I meant to say Star Trek not Star Wars. My EXTREME apologies, I guess I just had Star Wars on the brain because of that super mega epic trailer for The Old Republic and accidentally typed Wars instead of Trek. My Uber bad, rocks should be cast at me for even accidentally typing that. I'm a huge SW fan from way back, my apologies.

But yes as I was saying Star TREK was good, but not as Epic as Terminator Salvation.

Oh so you're a fellow Star Wars fan. TOR trailer looks good by the way. I am reserved about making a Star Wars film based on other than original SKywalkers Era, but the trailer made me think otherwise.

The only thing I don't like about it is why did they have to make a ROTJ Darth Vader - Darth Malak hybrid for a Sith? The Darth Vader mask design should only be reseved for Darth Vader.

 

[scatterax]

I don't even hate the movie but some of the fans of the flick are helping to lean towards that feeling.

NNOOOOOOOOO!!! don't give in to peer pressure from the haters!! there are so few of us who were able to take the stick out long enough to enjoy this movie. we can't lose another.

edit- it's really not that big a deal actually.

 

[bullets]

It's 2009 and every other X-film didn't have problems with rendering Wolve's blades but his own f**king movie does??? Thats just unforgivable.

I'll never understand what that was about. How did that make it past editing.

 

[scatterax]

I'll never understand what that was about. How did that make it past editing.

i liked wolvie and all, but it's sad when a movie from 2000 can pull off the exact same effect much better than a movie from 2009.

 

[super85]

How did TSCC do abroad? Does anyone know?

The show airs in quite many countries, I'm from nordic countries and I know that it airs (or has aired) in most places here. Also from the Empire article I read I got the impression it has aired in the UK too (and France and Italy) Like said the Terminator franchise has been quite popular here, and even T3 made close to 300 million "overseas".

 

[Tojo]

NNOOOOOOOOO!!! don't give in to peer pressure from the haters!! there are so few of us who were able to take the stick out long enough to enjoy this movie. we can't lose another.

edit- it's really not that big a deal actually.

Haha, so ones who didn't like the movie are obviously up their own a**es. Mmm, ok.

 

[AgentRed]

Connor told the pilot to radio into Command and have divers ready to pick him up.

Yeah but did you see the waves ? CGI fail ?

 

[The Joker]

I finally got around to seeing this today. I enjoyed it. But it was nothing special. I didn't go in with any high expectations, which was good.

I didn't really care about most of the characters, save for Sam Worthington's character, Marcus. Personally I think Worthington carried the movie. The script really didn't allow for much room for the audience to get attached to most of these characters, and care whether they live or die. The action was very good. No real complaints there.

Overall I give it 6/10. It's better than T3 by a couple of inches, but vastly inferior to T1 and T2.

 

[BestGirl]

The show airs in quite many countries, I'm from nordic countries and I know that it airs (or has aired) in most places here. Also from the Empire article I read I got the impression it has aired in the UK too (and France and Italy) Like said the Terminator franchise has been quite popular here, and even T3 made close to 300 million "overseas".

I was only asking because I thought if TSCC had failed abroad it would be a sign that Terminator interest had declined everywhere, but I see TS had strong overseas numbers so the popularity is still there.

 

[Dark Knight]

I was only asking because I thought if TSCC had failed abroad it would be a sign that Terminator interest had declined everywhere, but I see TS had strong overseas numbers so the popularity is still there.

The interest is certainly there, but it would be nice if Cameron or a better director than McG would direct.

The film isn't as horrible as some would like to believe IMO.

McG did a mediocre job directorially overall and this film could have been written better of course. The action scenes were solid and so were the effects, however the score could have been much better and was not good and didn't add any emotional depth to the average story. The editing on the score and placement in certain scenes was not good either.

Bloodgood should have shown more skin (LOL ; ) ) and her character should have died.

Howard should have been given more to do.

 

[DACMAN]

I completely agree.



I wouldn't give the film so much credit considering other sci-films before it and existing at around the same time. As for your last sentence: John Connor existed before time travel if you consider the first future shown in T1 as the first time line. I'd say your logic is flawed.

Oh here we go. How is my logic flawed? Reese is John Connor's father, right? And Reese is younger than John right? You still with me? Reese could only be John's father if he goes back in time to get it on with Sarah Connor. Through out ALL four films they say that John has to make a hard choice: send his father back in time so that he can exist, or save his father but he would never be born. How the heck do you think John was born? Who was his father if not Reese? "I'd say your logic is flawed"

 

[DACMAN]

i agree. marcus is gone , i liked the character but it wouldn't make sense to bring him back.

Yeah, last thing we'd want to see is them @uck up the continuity.


http://chud.com/articles/articles/1...NT-WRONG-WITH-TERMINATOR-SALVATION/Page1.html

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

People like to complain about the American audience seeing lame or crappy movies all of the time but I'd say that the international audience is just as guilty. We see MallCop to the tune of 140mil and they see Angels and Demons to the tune of 350mil plus. Star Trek is looking to pull in about 240mil here and 120+mil overseas while Salvation is bombing here and should make 300+mil overseas.

Bad or mediocre taste is international! Thats what I've learned.

 

[DACMAN]

The Wizard of Oz gave it too him...

HAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!Dup:

 

[DACMAN]

Fanboys say that every movie they like is epic. Ofcourse I know what epic means in that context and everyother context.

The only thing Epic about Terminator Salvation and Wolverine was the disappointment factor.

Now that's funny on an epic scale. Seriously.

 

[DACMAN]

Except John Connor was well written at least written like a human being and Kate and he had some good chemistry. The action scenes had some originality to them instead of always seeming like a rehash of another action movie. The performances were serviceable and it packed some nice twists especially with the ending. Most importantly the editing wasn't garbage and the writing was above average as opposed to below mediocre. It didn't feel like 34 different scripts frankensteined together into a mess of paper and words. It felt like a lot more effort was put into that one from Mostow than McG with Salvation.

Totally agree. I think "34 different scripts frankensteined together" hit it right on the head.

 

[DACMAN]

for me, it's... STARWARS. (empire strikes back, actually.)

Ok. I can see that. Though, it really is more of a fantasy than sci-fi.