Terminator Salvation: Review Central

[Spider-Fan]

I'm too lazy to investigate critics to see if their opinions mesh with mine

 

[BestGirl]

Holding it back until the end of time wouldn't have kept it from sucking. And that's what killed it. I was planning on seeing it two or three times, taking my wife, and suggesting it to everyone I know. I saw it once, haven't taken my wife, and tell everyone to stay away. Even people that where planning on seeing got talked out of it by me. Word of mouth is key to movies doing well.

I agree, plus there just doesn't seem to be much domestic interest in Terminator anymore. If Halcyon does make a sequel they should worry less about release dates and more about making a quality movie with a lower budget. Easier said than done, I know.

 

[Eric Brooks]

Yeah I never understood why anyone would try to talk someone out of seeing a movie despite if its crappy or not. Personally if I don't like a movie I tell people "Man that movie really sucked, go check it out so you can see how bad it is" or "let me know what you think."

exactly

why you would hold a vendetta strong enough to actually force people out of seeing a film is beyond me. I would say someone's got some anger management issues

 

[chaseter]

I would say that if you force someone to not see a movie, then yeah...you have problems. Last time I checked, no one has gone to anybody's house and tied them up so they couldn't see a movie.

 

[batman11]

Last time I checked, no one has gone to anybody's house and tied them up so they couldn't see a movie.

Yeah...about that....

 

[Nivek]

It's a matter of people believing that they have the best taste, if you say a film sucks, it sucks dammit.

I just get irritated at the stark Black & White opinions of it. I fell in the middle, but my issue is that it feels like they cut 45 minutes from it, and I didn't care for Marcus.

 

[Alonsovich]

Yeah, $200 million worldwide isn't a flop, but it's definitely a disappointment, especially what WB had in mind, with a whole new trilogy and whatnot. If you ask me, this should've been held back a month or two. May had ST, Wolverine, A&D, and NATM2. I think it would've done better in August against GI Joe and Inglorious Basterds.

Halcyon... WB just put 60 million for distribution rights.

 

[Eric Brooks]

lets play a game and see if we can tell exactly where film was cut, just a test to see how poor ob a job the editors did and how obvious it was that the film was trimmed down massivley, should be fun.

the most obvious spot: Right in the middle of the film just before Moon Bloodgood gets jumped by the group of guys. As the scene cuts to her with the first aid laying out, you can obviously tell there was a scene cut right before it.

that was blatant horrible editing

 

[kane9321]

Exactly what I said to a friend. T1 and T2 were good movies because they had action and made you think. T3 was just mindless action and so was T4. This is why I was dissapointed by this and Wolverine. Two franchises that once made good movies with many undertones and great characters and they drove both franchises into the ground. T4 only was a bit better because it looked way better and had better action. But, they both are dumb popcorn flicks. Transformers 2, which is meant to be a popcorn flick, will blow both of these out of the water.

So true..100%.

I just wish transformers will be better than the 1st one

 

[DACMAN]

They ask me. I tell them not to waste their money. And I was going to take my wife for the second viewing but didn't. I didn't want to see it again, and she wasn't exactly kicking down the door to see it. The other people wanted to know my opinion on it since I'm like the biggest Arnold/Terminator fan ever. When I said I really didn't like it they know it must have been bad. I was actually in denial for a few days. I kept saying "well maybe I just missed something". I was making excuses for it and even said I wanted to see it again. Until it came time and I just couldn't go again. I took her to see Star Trek instead, which was great.

 

[bullets]

^thats how i felt about spider-man 3 . i was really hyped up for that movie and tried to defend what i saw . yeah spideman 3 has good parts but also many flaws.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^thats how i felt about spider-man 3 . i was really hyped up for that movie and tried to defend what i saw . yeah spideman 3 has good parts but also many flaws.

By many flaws you mean it sucked ass.

And this post is coming from the biggest fan of the first two flicks so I damn sure am not bias.

 

[GothamAlleys]

Heres an interesting review from HopeOfTheFuture.net
It points out many of the plotholes and logical errors of Salvation

PRO's

+ Some nice action.

+ I loved to see Cyberdyne return. However I missed some explanation how in 2003 Serena comes with a paper owned by Cyberdyne while in 2003 Cyberdyne was already taken over (or continued) by the miltary (CRS).

+ The T-RIP imitating Kyle's voice. Very smart, I loved it!!

+ I liked the way how John Connor got his famous scar. That was really a nice touch (get the pun ). It's not the way I would have imagined it (I had expected some bloodsoaking wound from a brutal battle against a Terminator), but I enjoyed the moment.



CON's


- Lack of story and explanation. It also lacked the connection to the previous movie storywise.

- The TermoVision of the "older" models (T-600, Aerostat, MotoTerminator, Harvester). It doesn't look advanced or something that can be created by an super intelligent system like Skynet.

- What's with the T-700? It is shown as collectible, but in the movie we don't see it. Or we see it but John Connor tells us they are T-800 units. It's confusing...

- The lack of T-600 action. They praised a lot by McG but all the T-600's action were already shown in the trailers. So no new T-600 action too bad.

- When the Harvester or the T-600 move, they make a lot of noise (rusty parts). But when they sneak upon behind someone, we don't hear them all. Unbelievable.

- The heart transplantation, just a weak story element in my opinion. And definitely not something that can be carried out by a used-to-be-vet-now-self-proclaimed-doctor in a windy army tent.

- a talking Skynet head, just stupid. However I understand for the "normal" audience that it's necessary to have something to look at when Skynet "talks" and completely tells everything to Marcus.

- Skynet knowing about Kyle Reese (and even John Connor at some degree).

- How can the resistance have such an open bases? I mean doesn't Skynet patrol the area sor so? The tents in the dessert, just duck shooting.

- I didn't care for the characters. I could not connect to them and they appeared as hollow figures. I wouldn't feel sorry if they would have died or not.

- Where in the future war world, where everything has been destroyed, do they all get leather clothing?

- I got the feeling that the writers don't even know the Terminator mythology and lore that good. What is missing is the love from the creators.

- Kyle Reese naming every Terminator. "MotoTerminator! Aerostat! T-600." How the hell does he even know their official names?

- Skynet knowing what Kyle Reese looks like. I mean, the Aerostat scans Kyle Reese and identifies him as Kyle Reese. How does Skynet know that this person is Kyle Reese? Where does it have the info and how did it even get it?


The war between dumb and dumberer

Seriously. If I were living in that future, I wouldn't know who to follow. Both John Connor and Skynet are apparently not the smartest beings.

Remember John Connor, being told to become that great tactical military leader...? Well, the first thing he tells Marcus, of who he thinks is an enemy, are the names of this father and mother. Well, good work general. Why not tell everybody your deepest secrets and screw up tactically by putting your parents in danger? Remember in T1, in which Kyle told Sarah that Skynet didn't know much because all records were lost? Well, if I were Skynet I wouldn't worry too much because John Connor will most likely scream out all his secrets to everybody.

However, Skynet is also dumb. Even more stupid than John Connor. First of all, Skynet had at least 3 amazing chances of killing John Connor. Somehow, Skynet knows John Connor is important and he and his father Kyle are the top on Skynet's hitlist. In the movie there were 3 opportunities to kill John Connor:
1) the T-600 that sneaks up behind Connor after his chopper crashed. Instead of simply ripping out his heart it only taps his shoulder and throws him around a bit.
2) the T-RIP (T-800/Arnie), also instead of simply ripping out his heart like the T-800 did in 1984's The Terminator, this machine only throws John Connor around. Like he is playing with its prey. Like he is toying around with its rag doll.
3) if Skynet somehow knows Kyle Reese' importance, then why noy kill Kyle Reese immediately? I mean, Skynet (aka Serena head) knew about Skynet's time travel assassination attempts, and most likely of Kyle Reese's importance. Then why didn't it Kyle so John Connor would never be born? They used him as bait for John Connor to come to Skynet City. Once John is there, they only put Kyle on some machinery for skin research. WHILE HE WAS NUMBER 1 ON THE HITLIST!!!! Why the hell didn't Skynet kill him?

Really, I don't know how many opportunities Skynet must have before finally getting it, but Connor should have been dead already. Really dead! There's only frightening thing about a Terminator that the previous movies showed us. If they get close to you, then you're dead. Either they rip your heart out, of put a metal spike through your eye or even saw your torse in pieces. It all ends badly or you when a Terminator gets close to you. However in Terminator Salvation, you will only fly around when a Terminator gets close to you.

So really. Who would you follow? John Connor or Skynet? Dumb or dumberer?

_________
largest James Cameron site online - www.JamesCameronOnline.com

 

[Cain]

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Remember John Connor, being told to become that great tactical military leader...? Well, the first thing he tells Marcus, of who he thinks is an enemy, are the names of this father and mother. Well, good work general. Why not tell everybody your deepest secrets and screw up tactically by putting your parents in danger? Remember in T1, in which Kyle told Sarah that Skynet didn't know much because all records were lost? Well, if I were Skynet I wouldn't worry too much because John Connor will most likely scream out all his secrets to everybody.

http://www.JamesCameronOnline.com

what makes it even funnier is when we find out that Marcus has been "synced" up to SKYNET this whole time. God this movie sucked.

 

[kane9321]

I watched this film over the weekend...man, what a huge disappointment. I rate it a 2/10. It didn't seem like a Terminator movie at all.

Your not the only one atp. I felt cheated after the movie ended
I wanted to hit McG square in his mouth

I just cant understand why people liked this steaming pile of garbage? But hey,people are different

 

[DACMAN]

I would say that if you force someone to not see a movie, then yeah...you have problems. Last time I checked, no one has gone to anybody's house and tied them up so they couldn't see a movie.

You guys are morons. They asked me what I thought. I told them it sucked, I was disappointed, I think they shouldn't waste their money. I didn't twist anyones arm.

 

[DACMAN]

Heres an interesting review from HopeOfTheFuture.net
It points out many of the plotholes and logical errors of Salvation

PRO's

+ Some nice action.

+ I loved to see Cyberdyne return. However I missed some explanation how in 2003 Serena comes with a paper owned by Cyberdyne while in 2003 Cyberdyne was already taken over (or continued) by the miltary (CRS).

+ The T-RIP imitating Kyle's voice. Very smart, I loved it!!

+ I liked the way how John Connor got his famous scar. That was really a nice touch (get the pun ). It's not the way I would have imagined it (I had expected some bloodsoaking wound from a brutal battle against a Terminator), but I enjoyed the moment.



CON's


- Lack of story and explanation. It also lacked the connection to the previous movie storywise.

- The TermoVision of the "older" models (T-600, Aerostat, MotoTerminator, Harvester). It doesn't look advanced or something that can be created by an super intelligent system like Skynet.

- What's with the T-700? It is shown as collectible, but in the movie we don't see it. Or we see it but John Connor tells us they are T-800 units. It's confusing...

- The lack of T-600 action. They praised a lot by McG but all the T-600's action were already shown in the trailers. So no new T-600 action too bad.

- When the Harvester or the T-600 move, they make a lot of noise (rusty parts). But when they sneak upon behind someone, we don't hear them all. Unbelievable.

- The heart transplantation, just a weak story element in my opinion. And definitely not something that can be carried out by a used-to-be-vet-now-self-proclaimed-doctor in a windy army tent.

- a talking Skynet head, just stupid. However I understand for the "normal" audience that it's necessary to have something to look at when Skynet "talks" and completely tells everything to Marcus.

- Skynet knowing about Kyle Reese (and even John Connor at some degree).

- How can the resistance have such an open bases? I mean doesn't Skynet patrol the area sor so? The tents in the dessert, just duck shooting.

- I didn't care for the characters. I could not connect to them and they appeared as hollow figures. I wouldn't feel sorry if they would have died or not.

- Where in the future war world, where everything has been destroyed, do they all get leather clothing?

- I got the feeling that the writers don't even know the Terminator mythology and lore that good. What is missing is the love from the creators.

- Kyle Reese naming every Terminator. "MotoTerminator! Aerostat! T-600." How the hell does he even know their official names?

- Skynet knowing what Kyle Reese looks like. I mean, the Aerostat scans Kyle Reese and identifies him as Kyle Reese. How does Skynet know that this person is Kyle Reese? Where does it have the info and how did it even get it?


The war between dumb and dumberer

Seriously. If I were living in that future, I wouldn't know who to follow. Both John Connor and Skynet are apparently not the smartest beings.

Remember John Connor, being told to become that great tactical military leader...? Well, the first thing he tells Marcus, of who he thinks is an enemy, are the names of this father and mother. Well, good work general. Why not tell everybody your deepest secrets and screw up tactically by putting your parents in danger? Remember in T1, in which Kyle told Sarah that Skynet didn't know much because all records were lost? Well, if I were Skynet I wouldn't worry too much because John Connor will most likely scream out all his secrets to everybody.

However, Skynet is also dumb. Even more stupid than John Connor. First of all, Skynet had at least 3 amazing chances of killing John Connor. Somehow, Skynet knows John Connor is important and he and his father Kyle are the top on Skynet's hitlist. In the movie there were 3 opportunities to kill John Connor:
1) the T-600 that sneaks up behind Connor after his chopper crashed. Instead of simply ripping out his heart it only taps his shoulder and throws him around a bit.
2) the T-RIP (T-800/Arnie), also instead of simply ripping out his heart like the T-800 did in 1984's The Terminator, this machine only throws John Connor around. Like he is playing with its prey. Like he is toying around with its rag doll.
3) if Skynet somehow knows Kyle Reese' importance, then why noy kill Kyle Reese immediately? I mean, Skynet (aka Serena head) knew about Skynet's time travel assassination attempts, and most likely of Kyle Reese's importance. Then why didn't it Kyle so John Connor would never be born? They used him as bait for John Connor to come to Skynet City. Once John is there, they only put Kyle on some machinery for skin research. WHILE HE WAS NUMBER 1 ON THE HITLIST!!!! Why the hell didn't Skynet kill him?

Really, I don't know how many opportunities Skynet must have before finally getting it, but Connor should have been dead already. Really dead! There's only frightening thing about a Terminator that the previous movies showed us. If they get close to you, then you're dead. Either they rip your heart out, of put a metal spike through your eye or even saw your torse in pieces. It all ends badly or you when a Terminator gets close to you. However in Terminator Salvation, you will only fly around when a Terminator gets close to you.
So really. Who would you follow? John Connor or Skynet? Dumb or dumberer?

_________
largest James Cameron site online - www.JamesCameronOnline.com

This post made more sense than anything I've read here yet. And that last part is fricken hilarious.

 

[DACMAN]

what makes it even funnier is when we find out that Marcus has been "synced" up to SKYNET this whole time. God this movie sucked.

Right. All Skynet had to do was put a bomb in Marcus, any kind of bomb. As soon as he got close to John: boom.

Not to mention the fact Skynet made a weapon and gave it free will to turn on Skynet like nothing. Worst writting I think I've ever seen.

 

[Cain]

Right. All Skynet had to do was put a bomb in Marcus, any kind of bomb. As soon as he got close to John: boom.

Not to mention the fact Skynet made a weapon and gave it free will to turn on Skynet like nothing. Worst writting I think I've ever seen.

I'm still laughing at "you killed my father kyle reeeeese" and then SKYNET replays that exact video so they already saw the entire John Connor exposing his secrets to Marcus crap while having Kyle Reese in possesion and still decide to use him as bait? lmao ay caramba!

 

[AndThePickles]

Your not the only one atp. I felt cheated after the movie ended
I wanted to hit McG square in his mouth

I just cant understand why people liked this steaming pile of garbage? But hey,people are different

I felt cheated, too. As soon as I heard the altered Sarah Connor tape (by altered, I mean changed from the first movie) talking about finding a teenage Kyle Reese, I was like, nooooooo, and I had a bad feeling the movie was gonna suck. I wish my gut instinct had been wrong

 

[AndThePickles]

Heres an interesting review from HopeOfTheFuture.net
It points out many of the plotholes and logical errors of Salvation

PRO's

+ Some nice action.

+ I loved to see Cyberdyne return. However I missed some explanation how in 2003 Serena comes with a paper owned by Cyberdyne while in 2003 Cyberdyne was already taken over (or continued) by the miltary (CRS).

+ The T-RIP imitating Kyle's voice. Very smart, I loved it!!

+ I liked the way how John Connor got his famous scar. That was really a nice touch (get the pun ). It's not the way I would have imagined it (I had expected some bloodsoaking wound from a brutal battle against a Terminator), but I enjoyed the moment.



CON's


- Lack of story and explanation. It also lacked the connection to the previous movie storywise.

- The TermoVision of the "older" models (T-600, Aerostat, MotoTerminator, Harvester). It doesn't look advanced or something that can be created by an super intelligent system like Skynet.

- What's with the T-700? It is shown as collectible, but in the movie we don't see it. Or we see it but John Connor tells us they are T-800 units. It's confusing...

- The lack of T-600 action. They praised a lot by McG but all the T-600's action were already shown in the trailers. So no new T-600 action too bad.

- When the Harvester or the T-600 move, they make a lot of noise (rusty parts). But when they sneak upon behind someone, we don't hear them all. Unbelievable.

- The heart transplantation, just a weak story element in my opinion. And definitely not something that can be carried out by a used-to-be-vet-now-self-proclaimed-doctor in a windy army tent.

- a talking Skynet head, just stupid. However I understand for the "normal" audience that it's necessary to have something to look at when Skynet "talks" and completely tells everything to Marcus.

- Skynet knowing about Kyle Reese (and even John Connor at some degree).

- How can the resistance have such an open bases? I mean doesn't Skynet patrol the area sor so? The tents in the dessert, just duck shooting.

- I didn't care for the characters. I could not connect to them and they appeared as hollow figures. I wouldn't feel sorry if they would have died or not.

- Where in the future war world, where everything has been destroyed, do they all get leather clothing?

- I got the feeling that the writers don't even know the Terminator mythology and lore that good. What is missing is the love from the creators.

- Kyle Reese naming every Terminator. "MotoTerminator! Aerostat! T-600." How the hell does he even know their official names?

- Skynet knowing what Kyle Reese looks like. I mean, the Aerostat scans Kyle Reese and identifies him as Kyle Reese. How does Skynet know that this person is Kyle Reese? Where does it have the info and how did it even get it?


The war between dumb and dumberer

Seriously. If I were living in that future, I wouldn't know who to follow. Both John Connor and Skynet are apparently not the smartest beings.

Remember John Connor, being told to become that great tactical military leader...? Well, the first thing he tells Marcus, of who he thinks is an enemy, are the names of this father and mother. Well, good work general. Why not tell everybody your deepest secrets and screw up tactically by putting your parents in danger? Remember in T1, in which Kyle told Sarah that Skynet didn't know much because all records were lost? Well, if I were Skynet I wouldn't worry too much because John Connor will most likely scream out all his secrets to everybody.

However, Skynet is also dumb. Even more stupid than John Connor. First of all, Skynet had at least 3 amazing chances of killing John Connor. Somehow, Skynet knows John Connor is important and he and his father Kyle are the top on Skynet's hitlist. In the movie there were 3 opportunities to kill John Connor:
1) the T-600 that sneaks up behind Connor after his chopper crashed. Instead of simply ripping out his heart it only taps his shoulder and throws him around a bit.
2) the T-RIP (T-800/Arnie), also instead of simply ripping out his heart like the T-800 did in 1984's The Terminator, this machine only throws John Connor around. Like he is playing with its prey. Like he is toying around with its rag doll.
3) if Skynet somehow knows Kyle Reese' importance, then why noy kill Kyle Reese immediately? I mean, Skynet (aka Serena head) knew about Skynet's time travel assassination attempts, and most likely of Kyle Reese's importance. Then why didn't it Kyle so John Connor would never be born? They used him as bait for John Connor to come to Skynet City. Once John is there, they only put Kyle on some machinery for skin research. WHILE HE WAS NUMBER 1 ON THE HITLIST!!!! Why the hell didn't Skynet kill him?

Really, I don't know how many opportunities Skynet must have before finally getting it, but Connor should have been dead already. Really dead! There's only frightening thing about a Terminator that the previous movies showed us. If they get close to you, then you're dead. Either they rip your heart out, of put a metal spike through your eye or even saw your torse in pieces. It all ends badly or you when a Terminator gets close to you. However in Terminator Salvation, you will only fly around when a Terminator gets close to you.

So really. Who would you follow? John Connor or Skynet? Dumb or dumberer?

_________
largest James Cameron site online - www.JamesCameronOnline.com

This is a great review. I'm glad to see from those cons that I'm not the only one who thought about very nit-picky specific things I disliked

 

[Legion]

Right. All Skynet had to do was put a bomb in Marcus, any kind of bomb. As soon as he got close to John: boom.

Not to mention the fact Skynet made a weapon and gave it free will to turn on Skynet like nothing. Worst writting I think I've ever seen.

Why don't all the Terminators just blow themselves up when they get near their target? They can't self Terminate but they should be able to do whatever they need to do in order to eliminate their target.

The T-800 has a nuclear reactor in it's chest. It should have self destructed and killed Sarah at the end of the first movie. Then we wouldn't have to worry about being let down by bad writing in sequels.

 

[DACMAN]

Marcus was more advanced apparently.

 

[DACMAN]

Why don't all the Terminators just blow themselves up when they get near their target? They can't self Terminate but they should be able to do whatever they need to do in order to eliminate their target.

Including throwing people around apparently...

 

[DarKJediKnight]

Heres an interesting review from HopeOfTheFuture.net
It points out many of the plotholes and logical errors of Salvation

PRO's

+ Some nice action.

+ I loved to see Cyberdyne return. However I missed some explanation how in 2003 Serena comes with a paper owned by Cyberdyne while in 2003 Cyberdyne was already taken over (or continued) by the miltary (CRS).

+ The T-RIP imitating Kyle's voice. Very smart, I loved it!!

+ I liked the way how John Connor got his famous scar. That was really a nice touch (get the pun ). It's not the way I would have imagined it (I had expected some bloodsoaking wound from a brutal battle against a Terminator), but I enjoyed the moment.



CON's


- Lack of story and explanation. It also lacked the connection to the previous movie storywise.

- The TermoVision of the "older" models (T-600, Aerostat, MotoTerminator, Harvester). It doesn't look advanced or something that can be created by an super intelligent system like Skynet.

- What's with the T-700? It is shown as collectible, but in the movie we don't see it. Or we see it but John Connor tells us they are T-800 units. It's confusing...

- The lack of T-600 action. They praised a lot by McG but all the T-600's action were already shown in the trailers. So no new T-600 action too bad.

- When the Harvester or the T-600 move, they make a lot of noise (rusty parts). But when they sneak upon behind someone, we don't hear them all. Unbelievable.

- The heart transplantation, just a weak story element in my opinion. And definitely not something that can be carried out by a used-to-be-vet-now-self-proclaimed-doctor in a windy army tent.

- a talking Skynet head, just stupid. However I understand for the "normal" audience that it's necessary to have something to look at when Skynet "talks" and completely tells everything to Marcus.

- Skynet knowing about Kyle Reese (and even John Connor at some degree).

- How can the resistance have such an open bases? I mean doesn't Skynet patrol the area sor so? The tents in the dessert, just duck shooting.

- I didn't care for the characters. I could not connect to them and they appeared as hollow figures. I wouldn't feel sorry if they would have died or not.

- Where in the future war world, where everything has been destroyed, do they all get leather clothing?

- I got the feeling that the writers don't even know the Terminator mythology and lore that good. What is missing is the love from the creators.

- Kyle Reese naming every Terminator. "MotoTerminator! Aerostat! T-600." How the hell does he even know their official names?

- Skynet knowing what Kyle Reese looks like. I mean, the Aerostat scans Kyle Reese and identifies him as Kyle Reese. How does Skynet know that this person is Kyle Reese? Where does it have the info and how did it even get it?


The war between dumb and dumberer

Seriously. If I were living in that future, I wouldn't know who to follow. Both John Connor and Skynet are apparently not the smartest beings.

Remember John Connor, being told to become that great tactical military leader...? Well, the first thing he tells Marcus, of who he thinks is an enemy, are the names of this father and mother. Well, good work general. Why not tell everybody your deepest secrets and screw up tactically by putting your parents in danger? Remember in T1, in which Kyle told Sarah that Skynet didn't know much because all records were lost? Well, if I were Skynet I wouldn't worry too much because John Connor will most likely scream out all his secrets to everybody.

However, Skynet is also dumb. Even more stupid than John Connor. First of all, Skynet had at least 3 amazing chances of killing John Connor. Somehow, Skynet knows John Connor is important and he and his father Kyle are the top on Skynet's hitlist. In the movie there were 3 opportunities to kill John Connor:
1) the T-600 that sneaks up behind Connor after his chopper crashed. Instead of simply ripping out his heart it only taps his shoulder and throws him around a bit.
2) the T-RIP (T-800/Arnie), also instead of simply ripping out his heart like the T-800 did in 1984's The Terminator, this machine only throws John Connor around. Like he is playing with its prey. Like he is toying around with its rag doll.
3) if Skynet somehow knows Kyle Reese' importance, then why noy kill Kyle Reese immediately? I mean, Skynet (aka Serena head) knew about Skynet's time travel assassination attempts, and most likely of Kyle Reese's importance. Then why didn't it Kyle so John Connor would never be born? They used him as bait for John Connor to come to Skynet City. Once John is there, they only put Kyle on some machinery for skin research. WHILE HE WAS NUMBER 1 ON THE HITLIST!!!! Why the hell didn't Skynet kill him?

Really, I don't know how many opportunities Skynet must have before finally getting it, but Connor should have been dead already. Really dead! There's only frightening thing about a Terminator that the previous movies showed us. If they get close to you, then you're dead. Either they rip your heart out, of put a metal spike through your eye or even saw your torse in pieces. It all ends badly or you when a Terminator gets close to you. However in Terminator Salvation, you will only fly around when a Terminator gets close to you.

So really. Who would you follow? John Connor or Skynet? Dumb or dumberer?

_________
largest James Cameron site online - www.JamesCameronOnline.com

I think we can all offer some explanation to those plot holes. Besides, John already found out that Skynet is after Kyle Reese (and knows who he is in John's life) and there's no problem with him telling that to Marcus since Marcus is part of Skynet.

BUT I think Legion made a point, why Skynet didn't just put a bomb inside Marcus to kill Connor on the spot. I would enjoy this film to the full, if we haven't these lame Brancato and Ferris as the writers. I am very sad for this film.