Terminator: Salvation - The NEW new thread

[dark_b]

Definitely, he knows how to push the technology, but I think the only film it really worked in was T2. Avatar looked pretty, but the story IMO was terrible. I couldn't get through True Lies......even Aliens, which I love, had some odd dialogue. I love good stories, I could care less about flashy effects.

i think books are for you

 

[Doc Ock]

i think books are for you

I love books!

 

[Alonsovich]

i think books are for you

He has a point... effects are cool and all, but if the story is not so good then the film suffers from it, that's the case with Avatar for example... it's cool to see the 3D thing, but... I didn't leave the theater with the "wow, what a film" feeling but with the "that looked cool" feeling. His films all look cool and impressive... but his storytelling is really lacking in comparison to other directors which can do things also visually impressive but with enormous depth.

 

[craigdbfan]

Kirsten Dunst & McG's 'Akihabara Majokko Princess' Video Streamed

In an August video shoot, Dunst danced to The Vapors' "Turning Japanese" song in a sailor-suit costume and a blue wig in Tokyo's Akihabara otaku shopping district. Murakami and McG happened to have the same manager, and the manager brought the two together at the end of last year to discuss the collaboration.

Wow.

WB don't get any ideas of giving McG a upcoming manga adaptation (Akira).

I didn't direct link the video as there are some shots of manga nudity. Oh McG.

 

[dark_b]

He has a point... effects are cool and all, but if the story is not so good then the film suffers from it, that's the case with Avatar for example... it's cool to see the 3D thing, but... I didn't leave the theater with the "wow, what a film" feeling but with the "that looked cool" feeling. His films all look cool and impressive... but his storytelling is really lacking in comparison to other directors which can do things also visually impressive but with enormous depth.

he has an opinion

 

[Alonsovich]

he has an opinion

Everybody has one... and they're all right... and wrong...

 

[HopeOfTheFuture]

Terminator Salvation deleted scenes: http://www.hopeofthefuture.net/deletedscenes/t4del_index.html

I finished work on this section. Only thing not online yet are the alternate and omitted scenes, the rest is online.

 

[weezerspider]

James Cameron is a glorified Special Effects genius. He's not a great director or great writer. T1, Aliens and T2 I enjoy because the stories aren't complete crap. Everything else he's done has absolutely no substances. Strip Avatar of its Special Effects and its one of the worst movies I've seen in awhile. The plot is so unoriginal and the dialogue is garbage. Avatar deserves every praise it gets for Special Effects. It deserves NOTHING else.
End Rant. How's the Salvation Director's Cut? Worth watching?

 

[CELTICPRED]

James Cameron is a glorified Special Effects genius. He's not a great director or great writer. T1, Aliens and T2 I enjoy because the stories aren't complete crap. Everything else he's done has absolutely no substances. Strip Avatar of its Special Effects and its one of the worst movies I've seen in awhile. The plot is so unoriginal and the dialogue is garbage. Avatar deserves every praise it gets for Special Effects. It deserves NOTHING else.
End Rant. How's the Salvation Director's Cut? Worth watching?

You mad?

 

[Deaths Head II]

You mad?

 

[Bunker]

hahaha

 

[Alonsovich]

You mad?

No... and he's not alone... most of his written scripts have been abysmal.

 

[Nightmare]

Terminator Salvation deleted scenes: http://www.hopeofthefuture.net/deletedscenes/t4del_index.html

I finished work on this section. Only thing not online yet are the alternate and omitted scenes, the rest is online.

Awesome Page

 

[weezerspider]

No... and he's not alone... most of his written scripts have been abysmal.

THANK YOU!

So anyways, is the R rated Directors Cut of Terminator Salvation worth anything?

 

[HopeOfTheFuture]

Awesome Page

Thanks. Alternate scenes are also online now.

 

[Ipodman]

THANK YOU!

So anyways, is the R rated Directors Cut of Terminator Salvation worth anything?

Apparently not...

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

James Cameron is a glorified Special Effects genius. He's not a great director or great writer. T1, Aliens and T2 I enjoy because the stories aren't complete crap. Everything else he's done has absolutely no substances. Strip Avatar of its Special Effects and its one of the worst movies I've seen in awhile. The plot is so unoriginal and the dialogue is garbage. Avatar deserves every praise it gets for Special Effects. It deserves NOTHING else.
End Rant. How's the Salvation Director's Cut? Worth watching?

Wow, couldnt disagree with this any more, but to each their own.

Did you not even like True Lies?

 

[FCEEVIPER]

James Cameron is a glorified Special Effects genius. He's not a great director or great writer. T1, Aliens and T2 I enjoy because the stories aren't complete crap. Everything else he's done has absolutely no substances. Strip Avatar of its Special Effects and its one of the worst movies I've seen in awhile. The plot is so unoriginal and the dialogue is garbage. Avatar deserves every praise it gets for Special Effects. It deserves NOTHING else.
End Rant. How's the Salvation Director's Cut? Worth watching?

 

[GhostPoet]

I saw it yet again...and you know...I still really enjoyed it a lot. I really don't see what's wrong with the movie to be honest.

 

[daywalker2007]

i don't know everyone is saying the movie is just all special effects and no story?

the story is great, and yes we've probably seen it before, but its not been done like this before.

we truly get to see a stunning new planet we can only imagine in our dreams, and the anti war message comes through at the end greatly.

I guess its mostly the Pro War brigade who are against this movie, seing as its a basically a hidden pop at the USA's policy of illegally invading other countries without proof or evidence or fact.

Cameron's a smart guy, I bet he purposely chose this story to piss off a few people too!

Looks like he succeeded!

The movie does leave you with this strange effect when you come out of the theatre, you feel dissapointed that Pandora isn't real!

 

[weezerspider]

i don't know everyone is saying the movie is just all special effects and no story?

the story is great, and yes we've probably seen it before, but its not been done like this before.

we truly get to see a stunning new planet we can only imagine in our dreams, and the anti war message comes through at the end greatly.

I guess its mostly the Pro War brigade who are against this movie, seing as its a basically a hidden pop at the USA's policy of illegally invading other countries without proof or evidence or fact.

Cameron's a smart guy, I bet he purposely chose this story to piss off a few people too!

Looks like he succeeded!

The movie does leave you with this strange effect when you come out of the theatre, you feel dissapointed that Pandora isn't real!

Your whole 'war theory' is just like Pocahontus, yet its a great story? Last time I checked, stealing a story from other films isn't considered "great".

 

[weezerspider]

Wow, couldnt disagree with this any more, but to each their own.

Did you not even like True Lies?

Nope. I found it pretty bland to be honest.

 

[lzzy]

Your whole 'war theory' is just like Pocahontus, yet its a great story? Last time I checked, stealing a story from other films isn't considered "great".

Romeo & Juliet is from Romeus & Juliet, which is also from Ovid.
Star Wars is Flash Gordon.
Alien is The Thing From Another World/Forbidden Planet/and many pulp comics ("I didn't steal Alien from anybody. I stole it from everybody!"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(film)#cite_note-McIntee.2C_19-16 - Dan O'Bannon)

Three works, all with stories and key elements told before, all considered great.

 

[weezerspider]

Romeo & Juliet is from Romeus & Juliet, which is also from Ovid.
Star Wars is Flash Gordon.
Alien is The Thing From Another World/Forbidden Planet/and many pulp comics ("I didn't steal Alien from anybody. I stole it from everybody!"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(film)#cite_note-McIntee.2C_19-16 - Dan O'Bannon)

Three works, all with stories and key elements told before, all considered great.

yet none of those are exactly like another film. AVATAR IS future Pochauntus. Plus you've said" it hasn't been done like this before." yes it has. Watch Pochauntus, thats what they did. Watch Ferngully, heck Ferngully even has the whole Avatar element. The guy shrinks instead of growing. Not to mention the dialogue is pathetic, the story is PREDICTABLE.

 

[lzzy]

yet none of those are exactly like another film. AVATAR IS future Pochauntus. Plus you've said" it hasn't been done like this before." yes it has. Watch Pochauntus, thats what they did. Watch Ferngully, heck Ferngully even has the whole Avatar element. The guy shrinks instead of growing. Not to mention the dialogue is pathetic, the story is PREDICTABLE.

You'd find that a lot of them are exactly like other films. Even D9 is like Avatar. Man has to move aliens, becomes alien, goes against human forces, repels humans, remains alien. Fundamentally, they're similar. Most thrillers, horrors, and dramas follow a pattern also. You said: Plus you've said" it hasn't been done like this before." No, I didn't, you must be confusing me for someone else. If the internet existed in the 70's, trust me, Star Wars would have been lambasted by older viewers like ourselves for being too similar to Flash or for the cliched Campbellian monomyth elements. I don't thinkLucas has been tight-lipped about his influences either, much like Dan O'Bannon.