Iron Man Terrible Casting- Iron Man

[blackbyrd]

All of these post prove one thing tome, most of you have not been reading the comics as long as I have or know these characters from the early 70's. Do your homework first. As for Michael Jai White, that is the best cast I have heard in nearly all of the comic movies. Rhody was not a pretty boy. He would punch you in your mouth without blinking an eye.

Actually, the original X-Men, Scott, Jean, Bobby, Hank, and Warren were all in high school when Chuck got to them. Bobby was the youngest of the five. So, If Scott, Jean are seniors, Bobby is a frosh. Spidey was 15 when he got bit. Tony was 21 when he got Stark due to his parents' death. He worked on stuff and made the armor at most 5 years later. Guy was after all a genius, who graduated MIT at 15. 5 years is a long time to make some armor. He was not in his mid-30's. Also, it is no secret that Errol Flynn was the model for stark, just like Stan Lee says that the model for Hulk was Frankenstein/JekyllnHyde.

You guys can't be serious?

PS, the new DVD was dogdoo. That makes me even more scared....

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Great casting

 

[thegameq]

The thing I love about the casting of this film, is that these are names that would never have been attatched if we the fans cast the film. Tom Cruise has been thrown around in connection to Iron Man for far too long. Had this movie been made 10-15 years ago I would say Tom Selleck or Timothy Dalton. I agree about Tom Cruise, he would have been awful and it would have turned into the craptastic exploit that War of the Worlds was.

Robert Downey Jr, is an amazing actor with alot under his belt. He does not look as haggard or beat up as some make him out to look. His last few movies have been great, specifically "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" and "The Singing Detective" Both were great movies. I have complete confidence in Downey to make this character great. Few thought that Keaton looked like Bruce Wayne, but he is still most peoples Favorite Bruce, not mine, but most.

Favs has had a short Directiorial carrier, but what does that matter? Elf was a huge success and that isn't even the type of movie he is normally in let alone directing. I have faith in Favs and that was only reinforced by his truley INSPIRED casting choices. The fact that he is casting real, serious, established actors tells me that he is serious about this movie and not just wanting to make a fun summer flick, but a Great Action packed Summer Blockbuster with acting worthy of a nomination as opposed to the usual effects.

I agree that just because they are nominated for or have won awards does not mean that they are worthy casting. Halley Barry is a crap actress and sucked hard as storm. Couldnt even do an damned accent. but she has an Academy award. I ask that you take the time to look at these actors past films, take the time to watch them and see their great preformances. Even then, wait till we see something of these actors in their roles. I have a feeling that this will be one of, if not the best comic book movie ever.

Marvel even says that they are more excited about Iron man than Spiderman 3.

When you put it that way, I smell the Batman Begins approach, which I am not a fan of. IM is comicbook fantasy, ala Supes and Spider-man. Granted I don't know how serious or realistic you could make a film about a man in a red and gold armored flying suit.

 

[Stripesy Strip]

First, I want to point out that Clark Gable was NOT the inspiration for Tony Stark, Errol Flynn was. Flynn was a flamboyant playboy known for his drinking, womanizing, brawling, and extravagent lifestyle. Indeed, he is the inspiration for the word "errolesque" and was buried with six bottles of fine Canadian whiskey.

That being said, I look at Errol Flynn as a model for whatever actor is picked to play Stark. I don't really agree with Downey Jr. as Iron Man since his looks and personality are vastly different, but I do support the decision over more mainstream names like Cruise.

On the subject of Rhodes, Michael Jai White would have been a better choice for a wide variety of obvious reasons which I'm not going to get into.

I'm also not really a great fan of Jon Favreau's work, and seeing his previous projects makes me kind of leery of the new franchise.

I've always liked Iron Man, and because of that and the lack of any real information about the direction of the movie I'll give them all the benefit of the doubt until I'm proven wrong.

Downey is a lot like Errol Flynn. He has that joie de vivre.

 

[R_LaReaux]

It isn't just Downey, it's a wide range of things that make me doubt the movie will be worth watching. I don't agree with any of the casting choices, however I'm not so shallow as to dismiss a potentially good movie because I don't like who's in it.

However, I've seen most of Favreau's work, and while a few of his films were good, they all leave something to be desired. When it comes to Iron Man I watch the interviews and listen to what he has to say and it saps the hope right out of me. The man never touched an Iron Man comic until he was approached, and I guarantee he didn't read the 40+ years of history. If anything he probably just read the more recent ones or listened to the word of mouth of fans.

Take a closer look at everything he's said and done with the project thus far. Here you have a relatively unknown director who instantly becomes the topic of mass discussion when attached to this franchise. The explosion of comic book movies, the award winning actors, and the basic direction he's already going in. Make no mistake, he's doing it to make a name for himself, subject matter be damned.

I have a really bad feeling about the movie, however I'm still going to watch it because I've waited decades to see one. Whatever the outcome, it will be interesting to see a childhood hero come to life at least once. I will say this for Jon, he keeps in touch with the fans. whether or not he listens remains to be seen.

 

[terry78]

^How much did Bryan Singer and Chris Nolan know about Batman, X-Men and Superman? The only directors that actually were fans of their material were MSJ, Raimi, and Tim Story has openly said he's been reading since he was younger.

 

[R_LaReaux]

Did you have a point to that? X-Men and Superman outright sucked, and Batman Returns wasn't a far cry from the first two, which is what the fans have been *****ing that they wanted for fifteen years. After the failures of Forever and Robin, it was only common sense to go back to what works.

While Batman Begins was definitely one of the better movies of the genre, all three of the films lack the feel of the comics. In my opinion, other then the haphazard use of characters which didn't matter since they only focused on Wolverine, the X-Men movies were X-Men in name only.

Compare the three to movies made by fans such as Hellboy, V for Vendetta, and Sin City. Ok, the last one was made by Frank Miller, but still had the feel of the comic it was based off of. They all did, and none of them had big names in easily recognizable roles.

 

[dark_b]

^How much did Bryan Singer and Chris Nolan know about Batman, X-Men and Superman? The only directors that actually were fans of their material were MSJ, Raimi, and Tim Story has openly said he's been reading since he was younger.

 

[terry78]

^Well, Batman is a moot point since any director alive knows who he is.

 

[Supreme Power]

Did you have a point to that? X-Men and Superman outright sucked, and Batman Returns wasn't a far cry from the first two, which is what the fans have been *****ing that they wanted for fifteen years. After the failures of Forever and Robin, it was only common sense to go back to what works.

While Batman Begins was definitely one of the better movies of the genre, all three of the films lack the feel of the comics. In my opinion, other then the haphazard use of characters which didn't matter since they only focused on Wolverine, the X-Men movies were X-Men in name only.

Compare the three to movies made by fans such as Hellboy, V for Vendetta, and Sin City. Ok, the last one was made by Frank Miller, but still had the feel of the comic it was based off of. They all did, and none of them had big names in easily recognizable roles.

All that you spouted is YOUR opinion.

 

[R_LaReaux]

Yeah, I think that's where the phrase "in my opinion" comes into play. However, it could be argued that thus far the popular consensus points out that the three movies in question didn't live up to the expectations of fans. I've heard a lot more negative things about said movies then I have positive. If you wish to argue the case you go right on ahead, but I'm not going to.

 

[dr.strange]

no offense ,but when did robert downey win an oscar?

 

[R_LaReaux]

Who knows. I believe they use them as door prizes nowadays anyways.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Good casting for 1-2 movie, but bad casting for a Trilogy. I don't think Favreau seriously consider Aging as a factor for the casts.

I too like Tony Stark to be acted by a late 20 something or at least early 30 something. But Downey is a good choice because of his acting skill (though he doesn't look like Stark BTW; goatees can be made to any actors), but I think his appearance would be a detriment to the sequel.

BTW, who do I think as a perfect Stark? Someone who looks like Chris Bale, rugged yet angular handsome face with tall stature.