Thank You Edge - The Wrestling Thread - Part 12

[RetroNaz]

CM out, Jericho back in to fill "the" spot.

 

[Kaleb]

and Christian (getting the belt at Extreme Rules) will feud against .. ?

You right,i was still thinking that Cena was drafted to smackdown so I was picking him to win the wwe title and bring it to smackdown while Del Rio brings the world title to Raw..my bad

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Why couldn't Punk "not re-sign" when he was in his stupid SES gimmick, and the only thing I wanted was for him to be off my TV?

Now, he's actually good and one of the best things going in the company, and now he wants to take a break? God damnit.

 

[Nightmare]

Haven't read any of this thread in regards to tonight's Raw yet, but here's my reaction:

-I was so ready to give WWE some credit for the balls they showed by moving Cena to Smackdown. Maybe his character would have stayed the same, but at least it would have been on a different show, and showed that they truly did give a funk about Smackdown. Then adding Orton to the mix too. Then they decided to undo it by drafting Cena right back to Raw. WTF??? Really??? That's the TNA type of booking that everyone gets on TNA's case about. That was stupid. Make a decision and stick with it. Don't cock tease something like that. What was the point of drafting Cena to Smackdown only to re-draft him right back to Raw?

-With Miz and Cena staying on Raw, and Del Rio getting moved to Raw as well, looks like that means Christian will be winning the title at Extreme Rules.

-Miz' promos were gold tonight. "If I get drafted to Smackdown, Raw will be cancelled within a month" Gold.

-More gold: CM Punk interrupting the draft. "The draft pick can wait" - that had me dying. Way to go Punk, keep winning me over.

-A 3 man tag team of Miz, CM Punk, and Alberto Del Rio??? Well hell, I think I need some Kleenex cuz I just fapped.

-That promo was the best I have ever seen R-Truth. Ever.

-WTF did Mark Henry do in the main event? Did he just randomly, inexplicably go heel? Between R-Truth, Layla, and now Mark Henry, WWE is going pretty heavy on the face / heel turns right now.

-This Cole / Lawler / J.R. / Swagger thing is going on way too long, that's for sure, but Cole taking J.R.'s hat was hilarious.

Overall I thought it was an above average Raw. But I really didn't like that Cena re-drafting at the end. I was really looking forward to seeing him on Smackdown. Really disappointed by creative's handling of that.

I agree pretty much with all of this. My thoughts exactly almost word for word.

Raw is on at 6 pm on the West Coast?

For me Yes, Tough Enough starts at 5pm. I know a friend who its delayed till 9pm her time. Just depends what cable/Satellite you have.

 

[SpideyVille]

just watching tough enough - already liked jeremiah but luke is impressing me - not just with his ability but with his talk to the camera.....reminds me alot of orton

I don' really care much for any of the contestants, but Luke is definitely one that I feel might and probably should win it because he seems the most ready right now, even though I feel he is a bit over-confident when he talks, but that's something that is encouraged in the business.

 

[venom892]

Luke comes off as selfish though.He could hurt someone in the ring by trying to show off.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Punk leaving would be a blow, he's one of only 4 wrestlers that keeps me watching the current dull as dishwater product.

Hopefully Daniel Bryan is moved to SD in the supplemental draft.

-- Zack Ryder wrote the following on his Twitter account tonight during Raw: "Hopefully I get drafted fromSuperstarsto either Raw or Smackdown."



This is sad.

He knows his time is nigh!

Sorry IF this has been posted,But Stone Cold.....Roll'd!?

http://www.twitvid.com/F8G2H

The return of the Hollywood Blonde!?(WCW Austin)

Think Orton will fued with Rhodes first.

No no! They should wait for that one I think, Wrestlemania next year would be the ideal time for that match up IMO since they are in the best two spots to be the top face and heel on SD.

 

[The Sage]

PWInsider.com is reporting that CM Punk has been telling those close to him that he might not sign a new deal with WWE when his current one expires later this year because he is burnt out from being on the road for virtually 5 years straight without a break. We hope to have more information on this situation soon.

Honestly he deserves a break,the wwe will be fine without him for a bit.

Enter the Third Coming of Jericho...

And the need to make new talent becomes even more important.

Can't believe he's been going at it for five years. Man does time fly.

 

[SpideyVille]

Luke comes off as selfish though.He could hurt someone in the ring by trying to show off.

Yeah, that's what I mean. He is over-confident to a point where he is cocky, and in a way, I see him more as a heel based on his talks with the camera. Because of that, I agree that Martin deserved to win that skill competition, and I think the top three from that competition, Lke, Martin, and Andy are the three that i expect to be close to the top in winning.

 

[RetroNaz]

I wish Kofi could cut the antics and get a little edgier to take his character right to the top.

WWE should bite the bullet with Morrison and try him out in a few main events.

 

[RetroNaz]

A WWE office source had the following to say on the CM Punk situation…

"When you look at how the company brands it's characters, Punk is never among the top 5-8 names that are promoted or pushed. It's Cena, Orton, Miz, Undertaker, Rey, now Alberto, etc. these days and Punk is sort of floating right under there. He didn't fit into the youth drive a few months back but he's not treated like a top veteran either. He's just there, doing his job and while everyone knows he delivers, he's never really treated like someone who does. He's never dropped the ball but we don't give it to him really, either. He's treated like a guy, but not THE guy. For a driven guy like him who's made wrestling his entire world, it's got to drive him crazy. Now, the excuse will be don't push Punk because he might be leaving, but the reality is the environment and situation is what is probably making him want to leave to begin with. Either it gets fixed or it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, just like it did when Batista walked out."

 

[chapin]

Luke comes off as selfish though.He could hurt someone in the ring by trying to show off.

maybe he is already in "character" but still i think he is the best of the bunch

 

[Metamorpho1977]

I missed Tough Enough last night. Who went home?

 

[bullets]

This is really a shame if he leaves , I was hoping he would be main eventing next years mania. Hopefully they work something out .. maybe just give the guy time off

 

[bullets]

I missed Tough Enough last night. Who went home?

miss usa

 

[chapin]

A WWE office source had the following to say on the CM Punk situation…

"When you look at how the company brands it's characters, Punk is never among the top 5-8 names that are promoted or pushed. It's Cena, Orton, Miz, Undertaker, Rey, now Alberto, etc. these days and Punk is sort of floating right under there. He didn't fit into the youth drive a few months back but he's not treated like a top veteran either. He's just there, doing his job and while everyone knows he delivers, he's never really treated like someone who does. He's never dropped the ball but we don't give it to him really, either. He's treated like a guy, but not THE guy. For a driven guy like him who's made wrestling his entire world, it's got to drive him crazy. Now, the excuse will be don't push Punk because he might be leaving, but the reality is the environment and situation is what is probably making him want to leave to begin with. Either it gets fixed or it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, just like it did when Batista walked out."

I dont aree with that a 100%.

 

[Nemi]

Haven't read any of this thread in regards to tonight's Raw yet, but here's my reaction:

-I was so ready to give WWE some credit for the balls they showed by moving Cena to Smackdown. Maybe his character would have stayed the same, but at least it would have been on a different show, and showed that they truly did give a funk about Smackdown. Then adding Orton to the mix too. Then they decided to undo it by drafting Cena right back to Raw. WTF??? Really??? That's the TNA type of booking that everyone gets on TNA's case about. That was stupid. Make a decision and stick with it. Don't cock tease something like that. What was the point of drafting Cena to Smackdown only to re-draft him right back to Raw?

-With Miz and Cena staying on Raw, and Del Rio getting moved to Raw as well, looks like that means Christian will be winning the title at Extreme Rules.

-Miz' promos were gold tonight. "If I get drafted to Smackdown, Raw will be cancelled within a month" Gold.

-More gold: CM Punk interrupting the draft. "The draft pick can wait" - that had me dying. Way to go Punk, keep winning me over.

-A 3 man tag team of Miz, CM Punk, and Alberto Del Rio??? Well hell, I think I need some Kleenex cuz I just fapped.

-That promo was the best I have ever seen R-Truth. Ever.

-WTF did Mark Henry do in the main event? Did he just randomly, inexplicably go heel? Between R-Truth, Layla, and now Mark Henry, WWE is going pretty heavy on the face / heel turns right now.

-This Cole / Lawler / J.R. / Swagger thing is going on way too long, that's for sure, but Cole taking J.R.'s hat was hilarious.

Overall I thought it was an above average Raw. But I really didn't like that Cena re-drafting at the end. I was really looking forward to seeing him on Smackdown. Really disappointed by creative's handling of that.

That's pretty much it. At first I thought they really wanted to move him, then I figured it was a way to keep him off of Raw and away from The Rock when he is on this monday. But it was all about the twist.

 

[bullets]

Mark Henry is an emotional guy , he legit starts crying at 1:30 discussing his weight . He seems like a nice guy in interviews but I'm told he's a jerk to fans


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[Metamorpho1977]

miss usa

Really? She was pretty bad though. I'm half expecting WWE to drop her in FCW for a little full time training and bringing her up eventually anyway.

 

[bullets]

Really? She was pretty bad though. I'm half expecting WWE to drop her in FCW for a little full time training and bringing her up eventually anyway.

She had the heart but was way too behind everyone else. I'd be shocked if WWE doesn't sign her anyway though. It makes a lot more sense than hiring the first girl that was eliminated.

 

[The Sage]

A WWE office source had the following to say on the CM Punk situation…

"When you look at how the company brands it's characters, Punk is never among the top 5-8 names that are promoted or pushed. It's Cena, Orton, Miz, Undertaker, Rey, now Alberto, etc. these days and Punk is sort of floating right under there. He didn't fit into the youth drive a few months back but he's not treated like a top veteran either. He's just there, doing his job and while everyone knows he delivers, he's never really treated like someone who does. He's never dropped the ball but we don't give it to him really, either. He's treated like a guy, but not THE guy. For a driven guy like him who's made wrestling his entire world, it's got to drive him crazy. Now, the excuse will be don't push Punk because he might be leaving, but the reality is the environment and situation is what is probably making him want to leave to begin with. Either it gets fixed or it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, just like it did when Batista walked out."

Except Batista was given a stronger push, even towards the end of his contract so I don't agree with that comparison. But Punk does get pushed to an extent before it's yanked out in some manner. His feud with Cena was going well, even scored a win over him before switching over to his feud with Orton, where Orton dominated the New Nexus and beat Punk. And I didn't like the way his feuds with Rey or Undertaker played out.

 

[venom892]

The whole don't push someone because they are leaving thing is bs.They pushed Hardy to the top of smackdown while his contract was expiring.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Daniel Bryant to SD.

 

[Wylie Times]

The whole don't push someone because they are leaving thing is bs.They pushed Hardy to the top of smackdown while his contract was expiring.

That's because Hardy was their second biggest draw at the time and they thought they could talk him into staying. Plus it's not like they weren't taking shots at his personal life during most of that run.

 

[Nightmare]

So Far

Daniel Bryan to Smackdown!
Jack Swagger to Raw