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The 25 movies that film Buffs Must see ???

I would love for someone to tell me what's wrong with CorporalHicks' just because I none of his films were directed by Fellini or Bergman doesn't make his list any less relevant. Moviemaking is about speaking to something inside you, obviously those are the films that speak to him, nothing wrong with that. Anybody who thinks different just come off as film snubs.


Well here's my list, in no particular order. (ther'te only numbered so I don't have to recount to know how much I named)

1)Citizan Kane ( No introductions neccessary. Its a technical masterpeice. Unfortulately the ending was ruined for me by The Simpsons.

2)Animal House ( Best comedy out there. I'm around that age so i can relate easily to the charcters)

3)La Jetee ( ****ing creeped me out when I watched. The noition of viewing your death as a child and those unconforable closeups got to me that night after a few drinks and its stuck with me ever since)

4)Raiders of The Lost Ark ( If adventure has a name then it most be Indiana Jones. Every now and again its fun to go into a world full of adventure and wonder. Raiders does that better than the rest)

5)Sin City ( Like reading a comic book. The internal monologues are the best thing about this film even though its style made the headlines)

6)Clerks ( The ultimate low budget film. Movie's like this made me realise its possible to become a film maker.)

7)Pulp Fiction ( Just sit back and listen. Some of the very best dialogue ever in a film. Its inventive in its narrative and was shot, at times, like a classic Noir)

8) Batman 89 ( Some may slate me for this but the style of this movie is outstanding. The smartest thing I've ever heard about a director is when a friend of mine said that Burton would make the perfect DP

9) Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back ( Perfect ending, the bad guys win, the noition of this blew my mind. The drama it creatred and excitment to see Jedi makes this the best in the saga.)

10) Fight Club ( Again the internal monoluge makes this great. Norton as always is perfect. Pitt has his best performance here, he really suits the brooding type, shame he doesn't to it more)

11) Sleepers ( Not a truly great movie. But something about it draws me in everytime. This movie came out when I was nine or ten, I really wasn't interested in this type of movie but for some reason I really wantec to see it. It was the line in the trailer that sucked me in, "Its payback time!" Don't know what it is about this movie but it's still my favourite)

12) His Girl Friday ( Gary Grant makes this film. The sharpest ****ing character I've ever seen, just quip after quip after quip, outsanding)

13) Goodfellas ( Best mob movie out there. Pesci is morbidly entertaining, makes the film great)

14) Rocky ( No film has ever captured the human spirit like this movie does. If yoy get knocked down, get the **** back up, no matter what, Rocky inspiries me.

15) Jarurassic Park: First film I ever saw in threaters. Although the dino look fake now Speibergs direction and the score by, I think, John Williams makes you feel that it's real)

16) Do The Right Thing: (Striking colour. I saw this in the middle of winter and started to sweat it made the theater hot. The title has long been debated. My take is that Lee did the Right Thing when he threw the trash can through the window, he turned the mobs attention away from the owners and possible saved there lives)

17) Die Hard ( Best 18 rated movie. All the vioklence comes out of story most action films aren't like that, they just blow **** up. This didn't it spent time on its characters and made you care for McClane

18) Chasing Amy ( Smith tackles a declicate subject here, there's not many films that deal with male sexual insecurities but he does it here and doesn't make it chessey, which it could easily have been.)

19) The Breakfast Club ( The definative teen movie. Although i wasn't sure if the scene where they confess theyark secrets to each other was truley earned, no teen movie has come close to it in emotional terms, therefore it defines its genre

20) Fear and loathing in Las Vegas ( Gilligham is a visual genius, no other director could make this film work so well. Depp, vastilt over-rated in my eyes, gives his best performance here.)

21) The Usual Suspects ( Terrific crime film, Spacey's break through role and the shock at the end is whats most talked about but when you rewatch the film and see a different peformnce by Spacey, it shows how much work and planning Singer put into this)

22) Good Will Hunting ( A oringial idea, Williams is so good in this movie, not a bit of the Genie or Mre Doubtfire in his performance. Affleck is actually good in this movie, one of the highlights is his "You owe it to us" speech.

23)Edward Sisccorhands ( Worth watching for Elfman's score alone but has more to offer, y offer I mean weird ass **** including Anthohy Michael Hall as a bully WTF)

24)Forrest Gump ( American History viewed through the eyes of a simpleton. But Gump to me is human perfection, ya you read that right, a guy blessed without any intellegence so that all he good see is the good in people, if we had more people like him we might have less technology but we might all be a little ahhpier.

25) Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 ( It's Spidey! Nuff Said)
 
Every film buff must see George E Romero's Dawn of the Dead and Night of the Living Dead
 
boywonder13 said:
Star Wars (4,5,6)
Batman Begins
Indiana Jones Series
Back to the Future Series
Black (Hindi/Engish movie based onthe Hellen Keller story)
Jurassic Park
Superman: The Movie
Saving Private Ryan
Mulan
Atlants: The Lost Empire
Toy Story 1,2

....and many more these are must see movies.

:up:

bravo,bravo
great pics

just add pulp fiction
 
ShadowBoxing said:
Every film buff must see George E Romero's Dawn of the Dead and Night of the Living Dead

i didnt like the old dawn of the dead
but i loved the new version
 
Here's one!
Red Dawn.
It's about Soviet Russia invading the U.S., and stars Patrick Swazye, Charlie Sheen, and Lea Thompson.
 
MJD said:
I would love for someone to tell me what's wrong with CorporalHicks' just because I none of his films were directed by Fellini or Bergman doesn't make his list any less relevant. Moviemaking is about speaking to something inside you, obviously those are the films that speak to him, nothing wrong with that. Anybody who thinks different just come off as film snubs.

I would agree with you had this thread been "Your Favorite 25 Films" but it's not, it's the 25 films that film buffs need to see.

Tell me why any of these movies need seeing?

Braveheart
Lethal Weapon
Dumb & Dumber
Die Hard
Indiana Jones Series
Kindergarten Cop
Terminator 2
Tears Of The Sun
First Blood
First Blood Part 2
Cliffhanger
Commando
Predator
Aliens
Rocky Series
Ocean's Eleven
Batman ('89)
Ghostbusters

Hell they were all made in the last 20 years, and only a handful of them actually have some significance... And to be honest both Terminator 2 and Aliens are inferior to there predecessors besides the fact there awesome action films. The Rocky series? Come on how are those films relevant besides the first. Again the key word was "Film Buffs", all those films are average movies everyone has seen.
 
Movies205 said:
Hell they were all made in the last 20 years, and only a handful of them actually have some significance... And to be honest both Terminator 2 and Aliens are inferior to there predecessors besides the fact there awesome action films. The Rocky series? Come on how are those films relevant besides the first. Again the key word was "Film Buffs", all those films are average movies everyone has seen.

Aside from my disagreement over the Aliens and T2 vs the originals debate which weve had before i'd say Raiders is very much relevant.it's the perfect blueprint for how to make action/adventure movies,a lot of these comic book films could do with using it as a template.
Also Die Hards relevance within the action genre is quite substantial as well as Lethal Weapon being a massive influence on the buddy action movie,they all stemmed from that one which actually was a good movie and concept that in the sequels decended into farce
I would agree the rest of the list hasn't got cinematic relevance but i would say the movies in it are far from average
 
hunter rider said:
Aside from my disagreement over the Aliens and T2 vs the originals debate which weve had before i'd say Raiders is very much relevant.it's the perfect blueprint for how to make action/adventure movies,a lot of these comic book films could do with using it as a template.
Also Die Hards relevance within the action genre is quite substantial as well as Lethal Weapon being a massive influence on the buddy action movie,they all stemmed from that one which actually was a good movie and concept that in the sequels decended into farce
I would agree the rest of the list hasn't got cinematic relevance but i would say the movies in it are far from average

Don't get me wrong I love these movies but there all within one genre, it simply doesn't belong in a thread like this.
 
Movies205 said:
I would agree with you had this thread been "Your Favorite 25 Films" but it's not, it's the 25 films that film buffs need to see.

Tell me why any of these movies need seeing?

Braveheart
Lethal Weapon
Dumb & Dumber
Die Hard
Indiana Jones Series
Kindergarten Cop
Terminator 2
Tears Of The Sun
First Blood
First Blood Part 2
Cliffhanger
Commando
Predator
Aliens
Rocky Series
Ocean's Eleven
Batman ('89)
Ghostbusters

Hell they were all made in the last 20 years, and only a handful of them actually have some significance... And to be honest both Terminator 2 and Aliens are inferior to there predecessors besides the fact there awesome action films. The Rocky series? Come on how are those films relevant besides the first. Again the key word was "Film Buffs", all those films are average movies everyone has seen.

While I'd agree that there not all worth seeing some of them all, and they guy did use the word "completely". BTW does it matter if they were made in the last twenty years. Film has moved a long way since the days of Bergman and Welles, nearly all these films give us insight into the way people are today.

Braveheart ( The Cinematorgraphy [sp?} alone in this makes it a must se)

Lethal Weapon ( The ultimate buddy cop film, also gives insights into the fact that so many Veitnam verterns got so used to guns they became cops)

Die Hard ( The blueprint for all action movies, its me against the world)
Indiana Jones Series( The ultimate advebture movie that isn't bogged to with needless messages)

Terminator 2 ( Making the bad guy the good guy, couyld it symbolise how we should treat ex-cons

Rocky Series ( As I said in my post captures the human spirit, Rocky IV also gives an insight into Cold War america)

Ocean's Eleven ( A remake done right, an essemble cast done right, no star takes attention away from the other. A marvel of movie making)

Batman ('89) ( As I already said, the gothic style alone of this movie makes it worthwhile and did I mention its ****ing Batman)
 
MJD said:
While I'd agree that there not all worth seeing some of them all, and they guy did use the word "completely". BTW does it matter if they were made in the last twenty years. Film has moved a long way since the days of Bergman and Welles, nearly all these films give us insight into the way people are today.

Braveheart ( The Cinematorgraphy [sp?} alone in this makes it a must se)

Lethal Weapon ( The ultimate buddy cop film, also gives insights into the fact that so many Veitnam verterns got so used to guns they became cops)

Die Hard ( The blueprint for all action movies, its me against the world)
Indiana Jones Series( The ultimate advebture movie that isn't bogged to with needless messages)

Terminator 2 ( Making the bad guy the good guy, couyld it symbolise how we should treat ex-cons

Rocky Series ( As I said in my post captures the human spirit, Rocky IV also gives an insight into Cold War america)

Ocean's Eleven ( A remake done right, an essemble cast done right, no star takes attention away from the other. A marvel of movie making)

Batman ('89) ( As I already said, the gothic style alone of this movie makes it worthwhile and did I mention its ****ing Batman)

I've said I love the movie and in time they'll grow to become classics, some already are. But when saying 25 Film Buffs must see that encompassing all years of cinema! Hence why I said most of them come in the last 20 years and are one genre. These are films that IMO are not essential to film buffs, also most people have seen them, well perhaps Rocky and Indiana Jones, but the other while good movies just seem to fit the mold IMO.
 
Movies205 said:
Don't get me wrong I love these movies but there all within one genre, it simply doesn't belong in a thread like this.

I agree that his list is to narrow for a thread about films as a whole as they are nearly all action movies but in a film buffs list action is a genre that should be represented and within his list 3 of them fit into the list under relevance in particular Raiders which is still the pinnacle of the genre IMO
 
hunter rider said:
I agree that his list is to narrow for a thread about films as a whole as they are nearly all action movies but in a film buffs list action is a genre that should be represented and within his list 3 of them fit into the list under relevance in particular Raiders which is still the pinnacle of the genre IMO

True True but outside of that what do you learn? Film like any art is evolutionary, it's constantly changing and building on what came before it by watching these films not only do you get enjoyment but insight in how things came to be, for example the movie "La Dolce Vita" it had an Alexander Payne intro, and I immediately drew some correlations between his films and La Dolce Vita, the same goes for anything else. And those action films all come from a distinct time period, it doesn't show the evolutionary step to that, from I mean the slower-pace less violent action movies of the 60-70s such as French Connection and Bullit to the high falutin aciton of Die Hard and Rambo
 
Movies205 said:
True True but outside of that what do you learn? Film like any art is evolutionary, it's constantly changing and building on what came before it by watching these films not only do you get enjoyment but insight in how things came to be, for example the movie "La Dolce Vita" it had an Alexander Payne intro, and I immediately drew some correlations between his films and La Dolce Vita, the same goes for anything else. And those action films all come from a distinct time period, it doesn't show the evolutionary step to that, from I mean the slower-pace less violent action movies of the 60-70s such as French Connection and Bullit to the high falutin aciton of Die Hard and Rambo

I would say Raiders very much shows the evolution of the western and oldschool adventure film made with big action beats thus evolving the genre that had been a staple since the western and B movies

Also there has to be a start point in order for evolution to take place,Die Hard showcases the kind of hero who is Dirty Harry (the first real anti hero) and evolves him into a full person showing the genre adding more to it's concepts along with also being the start point for all the terrorist vs one man army movies that followed,rather than copying from another source it created it's own concept and others copied it thus making it essential as it shows what kicked off a bulk of 90's action cinema
 
hunter rider said:
I would say Raiders very much shows the evolution of the western and oldschool adventure film made with big action beats thus evolving the genre that had been a staple since the western and B movies

Also there has to be a start point in order for evolution to take place,Die Hard showcases the kind of hero who is Dirty Harry (the first real anti hero) and evolves him into a full person showing the genre adding more to it's concepts along with also being the start point for all the terrorist vs one man army movies that followed,rather than copying from another source it created it's own concept and others copied it thus making it essential as it shows what kicked off a bulk of 90's action cinema

Again they all come from a distinct time period none of the movies go to the beginning with movies such as dirty harry and what not.
 
Movies205 said:
Again they all come from a distinct time period none of the movies go to the beginning with movies such as dirty harry and what not.

I don't see how that has anything to do with their cinematic relevance when they evolved the past and created templates for the future as well as remaining timeless
They are films that show us where we have been and where we are going,i don't see how you can get anymore important than that,they are landmarks in film
 
hunter rider said:
I don't see how that has anything to do with their cinematic relevance when they evolved the past and created templates for the future as well as remaining timeless
They are films that show us where we have been and where we are going,i don't see how you can get anymore important than that,they are landmarks in film

Meh to be honest... There are so many solid movies they had influence, your points don't have relevence to what I'm saying... Even if you wanted to do 25 Films a Film Buff needs to see for action movies, you locked into a specific time period thus not really doing anything a real film buff should see since most of them share a lot of the same characteristics and are at heart all action movies besides perhaps Rocky and Indiana Jones. And then also none of his movies have any real revalence for the actual topic. So I've said my points but if you'd like to argue that, then I can go through every decade and name a ton of great flicks that of course had some influence, but again your still not left with 25 Films a FILM BUFF MUST SEE even if you're doing just action movies which isn't what this thread is. I'm not saying the films aren't great nor did they not influence but to put all movies from one time period and to have the audacity to say these represent everything and that's all you need to see is quite frankly ridiculous but in the end I think your arguing a completely different point than what the actual thread is.
 
Movies205 said:
Meh to be honest... There are so many solid movies they had influence, your points don't have relevence to what I'm saying... Even if you wanted to do 25 Films a Film Buff needs to see for action movies, you locked into a specific time period thus not really doing anything a real film buff should see since most of them share a lot of the same characteristics and are at heart all action movies besides perhaps Rocky and Indiana Jones. And then also none of his movies have any real revalence for the actual topic. So I've said my points but if you'd like to argue that, then I can go through every decade and name a ton of great flicks that of course had some influence, but again your still not left with 25 Films a FILM BUFF MUST SEE even if you're doing just action movies which isn't what this thread is. I'm not saying the films aren't great nor did they not influence but to put all movies from one time period and to have the audacity to say these represent everything and that's all you need to see is quite frankly ridiculous but in the end I think your arguing a completely different point than what the actual thread is.

The thread is about 25 movies film buffs must see,therefore you need to pick at least one movie from each genre to have a complete cinematic scope.My point was that the one from the action genre is clearly Raiders as it is the most important and relevant to it's genre in much the way North By Northwest is to the man on the run to prove his innocene thriller
 
1 Lord Of The Rings Trilogy : I consider these movies as one film because actually they were all filmed at once. This will be a classic series and i really can't choose one over the other for a single selction.

2 Star Wars Episode 5 The Empire Strikes Back: One of the greatest middle trilogy films of all time. The best Star Wars film ever. Kershner should have directed the prequels.


3 Batman Begins : The best comic book crafted film in many years. Chris Nolan did his own thing and it was the right choice.

4 Pirates Of The Caribbean: Curse Of The Black Pearl. : Best Johnny Depp performance and likely Captain Jack will be a big character and will likely live on longer then disney ever expected.

5 Dram Stokers Dracula: Best Gary Oldman performance ever. My favorite Dracula adaptation. Very strong cast all the way around.

6 Robin Hood Prince Of Thieves: Many people dont' really like this film but it was my favorite Morgan Freeman /Alan Rickman movie ever.

7 Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade: My favorite Jones movie for Sean Connery is the best. Many like Raiders best but its my favorite Jones film.

8 The Patriot: My Favorite Mel Gibson film. Truely in thes same performance class as Brave Heart and yet Patriot was a better film to me. Maybe its because i like period films.

9 Peter Jacksons King Kong: Although i liked the classic movie this film is visually amazing and what weta and Andy Serkis did with King Kongw as amazing.

10 Star Wars Episode 3: Revenge Of The Sith: Best Of The Prequel Star Wars film.

11 X-2 X-Men United. My 3rd Favorite comic book movie ever. Truely a great epic looking film.

12 Hidalgo- Most people did not like this movie but i thought Viggo was really good in this movie.

13 Jaws: Best Speilberg movie period.

14 Jurassic Park. Best Sam Neil Movie.

15 Lion King: Best Animated movie ever.

16 Superman 2: My favorite Superman movie ever. Just like Terrance Stamp i guess.

17 We Were Soldier: My second favorite Gibson film. He was really good in this movie. I am not big war movie fan but who doesn't like Sam Elliot.

18 The Missing : Ron Howard best movie as well as Tommy Lee Jones best acting role in my book.

19 Pirates Of The Caribbean : Dead Mans Chest: Great sequel movie to a future great franchise.

20 Spiderman: I'm not the biggest Spiderman fan but it was a good enough movie for me to say its must have.

21 Man In The Iron Mask: Best John Malkovich movie even though its likely labeled a chick flick.

22 The Mummy: I know its a pop corn flick but its the best Steven Summers movie hes ever done.

23 Batman: No explanation should be required except for Jack Nickolson as the Joker.

24 The Day After Tomarrow: Great forces of nature flick. Truely amazing weather effects.

25 Clash Of The Titans:
 
1. The Godfather Part I and II

2. The Original Star Wars Trilogy

3. Annie Hall

4. Fight Club

5. Blazing Saddles

6. A Clockwork Orange

7. Raiders of the Lost Ark

8. American Graffiti

9. Pulp Fiction

10. Dog Day Afternoon

11. Office Space

12. Dark City

13. Citizen Kane

14. 12 Angry Men

15. Die Hard

16. North by Northwest

17. Evil Dead 2 (maybe Army of Darkness)

18. From Russia with Love

19. The Road Warrior

20. Scarface

Random list in no order.
 
BloodyWolverine said:
1 Lord Of The Rings Trilogy : I consider these movies as one film because actually they were all filmed at once. This will be a classic series and i really can't choose one over the other for a single selction.

2 Star Wars Episode 5 The Empire Strikes Back: One of the greatest middle trilogy films of all time. The best Star Wars film ever. Kershner should have directed the prequels.


3 Batman Begins : The best comic book crafted film in many years. Chris Nolan did his own thing and it was the right choice.

4 Pirates Of The Caribbean: Curse Of The Black Pearl. : Best Johnny Depp performance and likely Captain Jack will be a big character and will likely live on longer then disney ever expected.

5 Dram Stokers Dracula: Best Gary Oldman performance ever. My favorite Dracula adaptation. Very strong cast all the way around.

6 Robin Hood Prince Of Thieves: Many people dont' really like this film but it was my favorite Morgan Freeman /Alan Rickman movie ever.

7 Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade: My favorite Jones movie for Sean Connery is the best. Many like Raiders best but its my favorite Jones film.

8 The Patriot: My Favorite Mel Gibson film. Truely in thes same performance class as Brave Heart and yet Patriot was a better film to me. Maybe its because i like period films.

9 Peter Jacksons King Kong: Although i liked the classic movie this film is visually amazing and what weta and Andy Serkis did with King Kongw as amazing.

10 Star Wars Episode 3: Revenge Of The Sith: Best Of The Prequel Star Wars film.

11 X-2 X-Men United. My 3rd Favorite comic book movie ever. Truely a great epic looking film.

12 Hidalgo- Most people did not like this movie but i thought Viggo was really good in this movie.

13 Jaws: Best Speilberg movie period.

14 Jurassic Park. Best Sam Neil Movie.

15 Lion King: Best Animated movie ever.

16 Superman 2: My favorite Superman movie ever. Just like Terrance Stamp i guess.

17 We Were Soldier: My second favorite Gibson film. He was really good in this movie. I am not big war movie fan but who doesn't like Sam Elliot.

18 The Missing : Ron Howard best movie as well as Tommy Lee Jones best acting role in my book.

19 Pirates Of The Caribbean : Dead Mans Chest: Great sequel movie to a future great franchise.

20 Spiderman: I'm not the biggest Spiderman fan but it was a good enough movie for me to say its must have.

21 Man In The Iron Mask: Best John Malkovich movie even though its likely labeled a chick flick.

22 The Mummy: I know its a pop corn flick but its the best Steven Summers movie hes ever done.

23 Batman: No explanation should be required except for Jack Nickolson as the Joker.

24 The Day After Tomarrow: Great forces of nature flick. Truely amazing weather effects.

25 Clash Of The Titans:

This is 25 films for film buffs right? Not just general films that are very common and not really film buff material. Also the day after tomorrow is a really bad film, no two ways about it, the effects are quite cool, but the rest of the film is so bad it doesn't bare thinking about! Patriot, prince of theives? we were soldiers? I mean no offence, but these films are.....well poor. Although clash of the titans, I'm surprised this is it's first mentioning! Amazing piece of work, great love and attention to detail.
 

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