The Acolyte: Episode 8 (Spoiler Thread)

[Ninjablade]

1. Andor s1
2. Mando s2
3. Mando s1

4. Mando s3
5. Ahsoka
6. Book of Boba
7. Obi-Wan
8. Acolyte

Man, that's a lot of suck.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Reading this like "Mando season 3 should not be that high"

And then reading the rest like
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It's hard to decide what is purely worse, and what pisses me off most.

Obi-Wan is the show that hurt the most. It messed with an aspect of Star Wars I truly love. Same with Ahsoka and Mando s3.

Honestly though, after the top three, they're all different levels of dumpster fires, with something I like.

Mando s3: Pedro and Starbuck do a decent job for most of it.
Obi-Wan: Lil Leia.
Ahsoka: Sabine.
Acolyte: Darth Bortles and the fighting.

All are tremdenously poorly written. But I think the Acolyte takes the cake with that finale. It plays out like poorly written Reylo fanfic, while begging for a s2.

 

[Snow Queen]

Thankful more and more every day that Andor and the animation department are here carrying the franchise on their backs.

 

[flickchick85]

How I rank the live-action shows:

1. Andor
...
2. Mando S2
3. Mando S1

.....

4. Ahsoka
5. Mando S3
6. Obi-Wan
7. Book of Boba Fett / Acolyte tie

 

[Snow Queen]

I guess they didn't want to have two "oh look it's that one guy, be excited, nerds" moment back to back, but dropping Plagueis halfway through the episode while Osha and Bortles are taking off and not like as an ending "oh look ominous guy lurking, watching them, gonna have to deal with that" at the end when they're back there anyway was a weird call. Made it feel like there'd be some reason to show us that earlier, but no. It has no relevance right now beyond "look, season 2!!!"

 

[Superhero 101]

Uggh glad this is over. Really not looking forward to season 2.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

I'm not even someone who hated this show but calling it a disappointment still feels like an understatement. Obi-Wan still made me more upset at the end of the day because I believe that had a lot of potential to be something truly great and it wasn't which just makes it all feel like a huge waste of time.

This on the other hand was just another low effort product IMO outside of the lightsaber battles and the hand-to-hand fights which is pretty much all it had going for it from the start. The writing and acting in this at times was super poor and I just never gave a damn about the melodrama with the twins.

It's also hard for me to believe that this and HOTD have the same budget when the lack of quality is so apparent not only when it comes to the writing but the production values as well.

It's a shame because I think the potential was there and I really liked certain aspects of this show but Carrie-Ann Moss, Jodie Turner-Smith, Lee Jung-jae and Manny Jacinto deserve better.

I honestly wouldn't be against seeing Manny Jacinto show up somewhere else in a future movie or tv show either, but Disney really needs to work on getting better writers for this stuff.

RANKING:

1. Mando S1
2. Andor
3. Mando S2


4. Mando S3
5. Boba Fett
6. Ahsoka


7. The Acolyte
8. Obi-Wan

 

[DKDetective]

So how long until we move these Acolyte threads to the Past Star Wars Shows sub because this ain't getting a season 2.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I guess they didn't want to have two "oh look it's that one guy, be excited, nerds" moment back to back, but dropping Plagueis halfway through the episode while Osha and Bortles are taking off and not like as an ending "oh look ominous guy lurking, watching them, gonna have to deal with that" at the end when they're back there anyway was a weird call. Made it feel like there'd be some reason to show us that earlier, but no. It has no relevance right now beyond "look, season 2!!!"

It was so they could have their weird Twilight moment be their button.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Mando, Ahsoka, and now the Acolyte. All showing why straight up fan service without purpose is death.

While Andor proves if you write the characters with passion and nuance, it doesn't matter if one has any connection to anything else Star Wars.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So how long until we move these Acolyte threads to the Past Star Wars Shows sub because this ain't getting a season 2.

 

[Sithborg]

Really can't get stronger feelings than disappointment from me. Having gone through my "Star Wars is dead to me" phase before the Disney buyout, I guess I can't really get upset when Star Wars is bad. I mean, I even mostly enjoyed Resistance.

About 75% of it played out as I expected. Osha was going to turn and become the Acolyte, killing Sol. Sol getting the blame for the deaths.

The Sol/Qimir fight was great, keeping the action good. And there was some interesting music going on.

I think the clear setting for a season 2 is frustrating. The resolution of Mae and Qimir killing Jedi resolved how I expected it to, how they got there, while also setting up a season 2 is frustrating. And while I do see a more practical Verne, still clearly making her cover things up is kind of rough. Especially since its a cover up after revealing another cover up.

Keeping both twins alive is a mistake. I love Stenberg, and don't place the issues with their characters on them too much, but I don't think it is working. And when shows have the budget that this one has, I have slightly higher expectations on doing same actor in different places scenes. I am not expecting Maslany level acting, but the tech and techniques used in Orphan Black are still available.

And for the two big glup ****tos, yeah, I knew they couldn't resist Yoda. As for Plagueis, It is the worst kind of glup ****to. Just tossing him there, with no context of what he is. A creeping Nosferatu creature in a cave does not narrow things down in Star Wars. The ONLY clue you have of what he is, is his eyes. And let me tell you, any GA still watching are not paying that close attention to see the Sith eyes. Again, crumbs for season 2 and for hardcore fans, but just confusing in terms of storytelling. On the plus side, seeing him as a Noserfatu creature made me realize just how much damage Stover's banker Hugo Damask did to my image of Plagueis, so at least this glup ****to made me think of him as a creepy Sith Lord again..

I think my greatest disappointment of the episode was the bleeding of the kyber crystal. It is one of my favorite additions to the lore of Star Wars. And while visually, the glimpse of the crystal flickering colors and the blade changing color was fine, the scene itself just did not do it justice. The big choice had already been made, she killed Sol. And we get no indication of what is going on with Osha as the crystal is changing. Hell, Qimir isn't even goading her on. No great musical ques that I remember. Somebody needed to be talking as the transition happened. Jedi Survivor made it clear what was happening, without explaining what bleeding a kyber crystal was.

 

[Closerframe]

If this gets renewed, I truly hope Disney picks a new show runner because despite Headland’s claim that she’s passionate about the material, the execution and storytelling is abhorrent. This show has the potential of being like Andor in tone and acclaim if took itself seriously. Instead, we’ve gotten sloppy character development, CW looking sets, and wooden acting. The finale had some cool moments, but Plagueis and Yoda showing up for 2 seconds was just to tease things that aren’t guaranteed. Which is extremely frustrating since it was said numerous times in interviews that this is being treated as a standalone story but it left the door wide open instead of coming to any proper conclusion.

Also, didn’t Headland mention we’d find out why Kylo Ren’s theme was playing when Qimir was fighting? That went absolutely nowhere.

 

[Sian]

The black eyes still baffle me. I think they have forgotten that in SW bad guys' eyes turn yellow.
They've gotten it mixed up with Supernatural.

 

[Sian]

If this gets renewed, I truly hope Disney picks a new show runner because despite Headland’s claim that she’s passionate about the material, the execution and storytelling is abhorrent. This show has the potential of being like Andor in tone and acclaim if took itself seriously. Instead, we’ve gotten sloppy character development, CW looking sets, and wooden acting. The finale had some cool moments, but Plagueis and Yoda showing up for 2 seconds was just to tease things that aren’t guaranteed. Which is extremely frustrating since it was said numerous times in interviews that this is being treated as a standalone story but it left the door wide open instead of coming to any proper conclusion.

Also, didn’t Headland mention we’d find out why Kylo Ren’s theme was playing when Qimir was fighting? That went absolutely nowhere.

Maybe because Osha/Qimir is a rip off of reylo.

 

[CB Fan]

Overall didn’t love this, didn’t hate it. That’s all I got lol.

 

[chamber-music]

Thankful more and more every day that Andor and the animation department are here carrying the franchise on their backs.

Tony Gilroy is atlas when it comes to live action star wars television

 

[Weather Witch]

With all the rankings here I do have to reiterate just how much I loved Ahsoka S1. There isn't a single part of Star Wars that's perfect, but that show brings me so much joy. Acolyte though, I was really on board initially as well. I wanted this to be great, but it ended up being such a mixed bag.

 

[Weather Witch]

Just want to say I was right about everything.

Green Jedi lady was behind it all. The planet was Baldemnic. And they brought in Darth Plagueis.

Thinking about it some more that is one of the most disappointing parts of the season. The twin reveal was spoiled in marketing, but every other plot twist was also telegraphed way too heavily. Like they were afraid to get the TLJ complaints about misdirections and plot twists again. The two quotes below were from right after the premiere and that turned out to be (mostly) right.

Only twist that worked for me was killing Yord and Jecki, but I also still think the show was better with them in it. Though I admire that they tried to create some stakes at least. Plus, the show didn't feel like it was rehashing the same materials for the 1000th time.

Qimir is the most prevalent and likely theory I've seen.

It feels more like Osha is heading towards the dark, while Mae slowly returns to the light.

 

[Drizzle]

I figured there'd be a Yoda appearance but I didn't think it would just be the back of his head as if they booked him through Cameo but they only had $20 instead of his asking fee.

 

[Kane52630]

What an interesting season finale that felt simultaneously good and bad. It's like they knew the ending but had zero idea of how to get there. Overall, this show is yet another casualty of streaming with having a movie idea be stretched into 8 or 10 episodes. The acting was still subpar from some if not most of the characters, they do a sequel bait that makes the small story feel even more stretched out, and this show just solidifies to me that the Jedis are so excruciatingly boring.

I do have some positives about this episode, this does move better than all the previous episodes, there is a pretty solid lightsaber fight scene, and it doesn't look like they shot it on cheap sound stages. Overall, it's a show that is so half-baked and underfunded that it never really got a shot to be anything more than a cheap show. I don't know if that sequel season bait will work but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't come back to this unfortunately. Maybe they can do a movie instead.



1. Andor S1
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2. The Mandalorian S1
3. The Mandalorian S2
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4. The Mandalorian S3
5. The Book of Boba Fett
6. Ahsoka
7. Acolyte
8. Obi-Wan

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If this gets renewed, I truly hope Disney picks a new show runner because despite Headland’s claim that she’s passionate about the material, the execution and storytelling is abhorrent. This show has the potential of being like Andor in tone and acclaim if took itself seriously. Instead, we’ve gotten sloppy character development, CW looking sets, and wooden acting. The finale had some cool moments, but Plagueis and Yoda showing up for 2 seconds was just to tease things that aren’t guaranteed. Which is extremely frustrating since it was said numerous times in interviews that this is being treated as a standalone story but it left the door wide open instead of coming to any proper conclusion.

Also, didn’t Headland mention we’d find out why Kylo Ren’s theme was playing when Qimir was fighting? That went absolutely nowhere.

I do not think any show so caught up in lore, can be Andor level. Andor's greatness is birthed from being divorced from Star Wars in many ways. Which is how it captures the spirit of Star Wars best.

His theme played because it's Reylo fan fic and because a lot of people like to use John Williams to make their mediocre material sound like it matters.

 

[Kane52630]

Also I think we should start saying #AJAB

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The black eyes still baffle me. I think they have forgotten that in SW bad guys' eyes turn yellow.
They've gotten it mixed up with Supernatural.

I think it's specifically tied to witch powers. It's been shown across multiple shows. On Ahsoka, the nightsisters just have black eyes normally now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Also I think we should start saying #AJAB

I'm going to regret this... what does it mean?