The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Blu-Ray/DVD Countdown Thread

I don't think I stated that, obviously it doesn't hold a torch to Raimis' first Spidey sequel. I definitely enjoyed it, I view it the Transformers of the Spidey franchise (the first film, it wasn't ROTF level bad haha)
 
I got the magno 3D set from Best Buy and it came with two 3D discs. WTF?!? They are sold out so its not like I can even exchange it for a new copy
 
I realize I said I would wait until the weekend, but my local BestBuy was sold out so I figured I would pick it up now.

I got the Blu-ray/DVD/Digital HD version with the comic in the Magno case from a BestBuy near my cousin's house. I'm there now but I can't wait to open it when I get home!

Just from the few minutes I had with it, it's quite hefty and the cover is very appealing. You definitely feel like you are holding something of high quality.

And I forgot to mention, I got the last copy :)
 
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The back has the Spider logo

I have seen this before. What I mean is the CB with best buy is 13 pages form what I have heard can some one who got it post photo's off all 13 pages of it?
 
So I am watching the special features on the blu ray right now and man I can tell this movie looks great on Blu-ray has they show some of the action scences in the making of the movie. I cant normal tell that much of a difference between blu ray and dvd but man this on looks great and the special features are a lot better then what we got on asm1:woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:
 
So I am watching the special features on the blu ray right now and man I can tell this movie looks great on Blu-ray has they show some of the action scences in the making of the movie. I cant normal tell that much of a difference between blu ray and dvd but man this on looks great and the special features are a lot better then what we got on asm1:woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:

Eh i would say the Special Features are on par with ASM1, the ASM1 special features were excellent.
 
Eh i would say the Special Features are on par with ASM1, the ASM1 special features were excellent.

I found the special features to be dual on asm1. It seemd like all the special features where on asm1 was comparing the movie and cast to the rami movies. I think in treams of special features sm2 has the best. I would go like this for the 5 spider man movies intreams of special features.

1. Spider man 2
2. Spider man 3
3. asm 2
4. Spider man 1
5. asm1
 
Hi! I watched the movie with filmmakers commentary. I have to say that there's some interesting stuff but TASM1 audio commentary with Marc Webb is better. Man ... That Avi Arad ... :doh:

Well, here's what I think are the most interesting things of this audio commentary :yay: Enjoy:

- Filmmakers wanted to start the sequel with the same scene in the begining of TASM1, but this time from parents point of view.
The goal is to answer the questions left unresolved in the first movie.

- The story of the parents is highly inspired, while different, of Rosenbergs story, Ethel and Julius Rosenberg.

- With this movie, they wanted to do a story about the evolution of a young Peter, a teenager, to a more mature Peter adulthood - a young adult.

- The first shot of the film showing Spider-Man with his new suit, is to make it clear that since the end of TASM1, Peter accepted his alter ego Spider-Man and became a symbol for the entire city.

- The costume change was made ​​"by popular demand".
In other words, it’s thanks to the fans, who did not appreciate the previous costume.
Producers were concerned of these remarks and wanted the character to please the broadest public.

- Paul Giamatti announced on tv its desire to play Rhino in a Spider-Man film. "We aim to please" say producers. That's why Paul Giamatti was casted.

- Buster Keaton homage, created by Andrew Garfield and Cal

- The dog that is in one of the scenes where Gwen joined his friends is the real dog of Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone.

- "I was cleaning chemeny". That line was an improv by Andrew. His original line was "I was gardening ... I was ... potatoes".

- Alex regrets here :
“Is placing Peter's drive to know more about his parents, a little bit more in the foreground of the first act.
Because he feels like right around here, you are starting to king of feel like you're wanting to know what he is doing other than just maintaining. How to show Peter in denial.”

- The writers wanted to play on the idea that Tante May "had a strong suspicion that Peter was Spider-Man. Aunt May is in that gray area. She looks at him like she's waiting for him to tell her. But she is also smart enough not to confront him with it."

- Matt : “One of the radical idea in the film is to posit that Harry was the Green Goblin, and not Norman.”

- They knew that kill Norman Osborn would be a controversial choice.
Alex: "That being said ... Maybe he's not really dead. We're sort of keeping the lights on."
"There may be a scene we didn't show anybody. There might be. There might be a scene...There might be reason to see another one."
Matt: “Yeah.”

- "The sins of the fathers." :
Harry has a parallel to Peter's story with Mysterious myhtic father figures who ultimately were never there for their sons.
Matt also add that they wanted to put that "sins of the father" title for the last movie. They thought movie would have get attention with that kind of title.

- The electro eels idea comes from the Spectacular Spider-Man animated serie.

- Felicity Jones's character was NOT named Felecia in the script. It was like an on-the-day change. Somebody at the studio made that suggestion to call her Felicia. As a nod to the comic AND an option.


- The audition for Harry Osborn, Dan Dehaan, was based on the scene where Peter visits Harry for the first time, after having learned about Norman's death. They hadn't been friends since they were children together. It's a re-contextualisation of their characters relationship

- Deleted scene ("weird, creepy scene"):
Flashback / Peter parents' funeral scene where, at the wake of Peter's parents.
Peter was sort of this lonely child in this room of adults, and he snuck off to his dad's study and he walked Harry and Harry said ...
They started playing chess and it was kind of a metaphor of these boys connecting and finding each other.
Their relation ship had all been about going to their father's labs. Watching their dads' work, their dads' experiment.
And then in the doorway, you saw Norman at the beginning of his degenerative disease, holding on his cane, watching the boys

Comment of Alex: "Do we really need this to tell the story? Do we really need to tell all that back-story? ..."


- Rock skipping (river) scene was longer in the first cut.

- Max at the Morgue :
“This scene has been edited multiple times.”
"This was a much longer scene.(...) You get to that place where you need what you need. And so that will be on DVD extras."

- Phosphorent "Zong for Zula" music was added by Marc Webb. This music existed in EVERY single version of the film.
"This is that real (500) Days of Summer Marc Webb" add Matt Tomalch.
That particular scene was about 4 minutes longer in the first cut.

- Harry phones Peter scene :
"that was Marc Webb's idea that Peter nabs up there. He's a spider."

- Harry and Peter at Oscorp:
Matt: "This was another scene that was reams longer that it ended up being."
Alex: "Yes, there was a lot of information."
Matt: "Not only was it this scene, but there was a thread in the script that started way back at the water, not the High Line, about how, after Richard disappeared Norman had continued to spy on Peter and Aunt May ... Thinking that perhaps
-- Because they hadn't found evidence of Richard's death in the water -- that maybe Richard would have tried to reach out to Peter. And it sort of kept alive this idea of the intrigue of the Osborns and of Oscopr, that ultimately we found, and I think correctly, wasn't really necessary to the telling of the story."

"We did a bunch of different takes of the final beat here [“Don't turn your back on me!” line].
And in some of them it was a menacing moment that we ended the scene on where Harry was threatening him (Peter) and saying like, you know, "Find him for me.".
And there was something off-putting about it.
You felt like it didn't motivate Peter to do what he was about to do. And so we used this take where he sort of reaches out to him [...]."

- Peter and Gwen in the Oscorp closet :
In the first version of the movie, that scene wasn't there. “It was out of the movie.”
“It was out just as a matter of length and it's not necessary to tell the story, but emotionally, the two of them together is the heart of the movie, and without this scene you really felt that loss."

- Scene with Peter and Aunt May in Peters' room :
“There was several versions of that scene as well.
And ultimately, what led to the scene you're watching was Sally. [...]
At different times, this scene was in and out of the movie, in different sort of length."
"Marc Webb fought for this, he really did."


- Oxford acceptance scene:
Alex: Originally he (Peter) had a whole sort of -- He came clean with her and said, "I love you."
It was a whole thing ... And Matt ... At some point in the process, somebody-- You said (Matt) "What if he just doesn't say it?". And the what was great about that was ...
Matt: We got to hold it back for later.
Alex: You hold it back, so he says it on the bridge and then it's more meaningful.

"He (Andrew) did 30 different improvs of that moment. All of which were great."

- Peter angry in his room:
You realize in the process in this moment here, the --
There's a version of this scene which was cut against --
Which was much angrier and cut against more angry, aggressive music.
And played completely differently, and it really played against what was happening here."

- The train thing was Marc Webbs' idea.

- Train scene:
“There was a longer section we cut, I think correctly about the nature of the science...
The nature of the virus that Richard had, you know, basically locked the blood work to his DNA and that some of the tests that he had done enhanced the disease cells in people who had the disease.
But it also enhanced healthy cells in people who were healthy...Which explained one of them was gonna become a goblin, and one of them was gonna become Spider-Man.
And ultimately it was just one of those things that we didn’t really need to tell the story.”

"But it was interesting because we went back and forth and back and forth... about how much information for plot's sake you needed ...
and what the scene really needed to be about. And what the scene really needed to be about for Peter Parker was the revelation "My father loved me." and that he wasn't a spy."

- The battery on Electro's head was Marc Webb's idea to set up the fact that he could be overloaded

- Goblin transformation:
Alex: There was a whole sequence that we ended up cutting out of the movie... again, for the momentum of it all where the Goblin, like, blew up the base, first the basement and then the ground floor of Oscorp.
And it was an awesome sequence. It was super cool. And it was one of those things that you have to measure out.
There is sot much happening in the third act ... And there is so much action in it, that a certain point, I think we all are sensitive to when does the audience begin to turn off to too much happening ?
And so we ended up cutting, but it was a great sequence."

"There's a shot coming up here"
Matt " It was actually the first appearance of him on the glider, and the truth is , it slightly stepped on the reveal of him later.
And we felt very strongly that you didn't wanna telegraph that. You know what I mean ?

"This was also one of those scenes that had to be modulated a lot.
When we first saw it, it was really pretty horrific...And terrifying, and beautiful the way Marc had designed it. But it was, you know, the stuff of nightmares.
And so we had to dial it back to -- You know, and experiment with it."

- Electro's head on building was something Marc Webb designed himself, way before the shooting of the movie.
 
Hi! I watched the movie with filmmakers commentary. I have to say that there's some interesting stuff but TASM1 audio commentary with Marc Webb is better. Man ... That Avi Arad ... :doh:

Well, here's what I think are the most interesting things of this audio commentary :yay: Enjoy:

- Filmmakers wanted to start the sequel with the same scene in the begining of TASM1, but this time from parents point of view.
The goal is to answer the questions left unresolved in the first movie.

- The story of the parents is highly inspired, while different, of Rosenbergs story, Ethel and Julius Rosenberg.

- With this movie, they wanted to do a story about the evolution of a young Peter, a teenager, to a more mature Peter adulthood - a young adult.

- The first shot of the film showing Spider-Man with his new suit, is to make it clear that since the end of TASM1, Peter accepted his alter ego Spider-Man and became a symbol for the entire city.

- The costume change was made ​​"by popular demand".
In other words, it’s thanks to the fans, who did not appreciate the previous costume.
Producers were concerned of these remarks and wanted the character to please the broadest public.

- Paul Giamatti announced on tv its desire to play Rhino in a Spider-Man film. "We aim to please" say producers. That's why Paul Giamatti was casted.

- Buster Keaton homage, created by Andrew Garfield and Cal

- The dog that is in one of the scenes where Gwen joined his friends is the real dog of Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone.

- "I was cleaning chemeny". That line was an improv by Andrew. His original line was "I was gardening ... I was ... potatoes".

- Alex regrets here :
“Is placing Peter's drive to know more about his parents, a little bit more in the foreground of the first act.
Because he feels like right around here, you are starting to king of feel like you're wanting to know what he is doing other than just maintaining. How to show Peter in denial.”

- The writers wanted to play on the idea that Tante May "had a strong suspicion that Peter was Spider-Man. Aunt May is in that gray area. She looks at him like she's waiting for him to tell her. But she is also smart enough not to confront him with it."

- Matt : “One of the radical idea in the film is to posit that Harry was the Green Goblin, and not Norman.”

- They knew that kill Norman Osborn would be a controversial choice.
Alex: "That being said ... Maybe he's not really dead. We're sort of keeping the lights on."
"There may be a scene we didn't show anybody. There might be. There might be a scene...There might be reason to see another one."
Matt: “Yeah.”

- "The sins of the fathers." :
Harry has a parallel to Peter's story with Mysterious myhtic father figures who ultimately were never there for their sons.
Matt also add that they wanted to put that "sins of the father" title for the last movie. They thought movie would have get attention with that kind of title.

- The electro eels idea comes from the Spectacular Spider-Man animated serie.

- Felicity Jones's character was NOT named Felecia in the script. It was like an on-the-day change. Somebody at the studio made that suggestion to call her Felicia. As a nod to the comic AND an option.


- The audition for Harry Osborn, Dan Dehaan, was based on the scene where Peter visits Harry for the first time, after having learned about Norman's death. They hadn't been friends since they were children together. It's a re-contextualisation of their characters relationship

- Deleted scene ("weird, creepy scene"):
Flashback / Peter parents' funeral scene where, at the wake of Peter's parents.
Peter was sort of this lonely child in this room of adults, and he snuck off to his dad's study and he walked Harry and Harry said ...
They started playing chess and it was kind of a metaphor of these boys connecting and finding each other.
Their relation ship had all been about going to their father's labs. Watching their dads' work, their dads' experiment.
And then in the doorway, you saw Norman at the beginning of his degenerative disease, holding on his cane, watching the boys

Comment of Alex: "Do we really need this to tell the story? Do we really need to tell all that back-story? ..."


- Rock skipping (river) scene was longer in the first cut.

- Max at the Morgue :
“This scene has been edited multiple times.”
"This was a much longer scene.(...) You get to that place where you need what you need. And so that will be on DVD extras."

- Phosphorent "Zong for Zula" music was added by Marc Webb. This music existed in EVERY single version of the film.
"This is that real (500) Days of Summer Marc Webb" add Matt Tomalch.
That particular scene was about 4 minutes longer in the first cut.

- Harry phones Peter scene :
"that was Marc Webb's idea that Peter nabs up there. He's a spider."

- Harry and Peter at Oscorp:
Matt: "This was another scene that was reams longer that it ended up being."
Alex: "Yes, there was a lot of information."
Matt: "Not only was it this scene, but there was a thread in the script that started way back at the water, not the High Line, about how, after Richard disappeared Norman had continued to spy on Peter and Aunt May ... Thinking that perhaps
-- Because they hadn't found evidence of Richard's death in the water -- that maybe Richard would have tried to reach out to Peter. And it sort of kept alive this idea of the intrigue of the Osborns and of Oscopr, that ultimately we found, and I think correctly, wasn't really necessary to the telling of the story."

"We did a bunch of different takes of the final beat here [“Don't turn your back on me!” line].
And in some of them it was a menacing moment that we ended the scene on where Harry was threatening him (Peter) and saying like, you know, "Find him for me.".
And there was something off-putting about it.
You felt like it didn't motivate Peter to do what he was about to do. And so we used this take where he sort of reaches out to him [...]."

- Peter and Gwen in the Oscorp closet :
In the first version of the movie, that scene wasn't there. “It was out of the movie.”
“It was out just as a matter of length and it's not necessary to tell the story, but emotionally, the two of them together is the heart of the movie, and without this scene you really felt that loss."

- Scene with Peter and Aunt May in Peters' room :
“There was several versions of that scene as well.
And ultimately, what led to the scene you're watching was Sally. [...]
At different times, this scene was in and out of the movie, in different sort of length."
"Marc Webb fought for this, he really did."


- Oxford acceptance scene:
Alex: Originally he (Peter) had a whole sort of -- He came clean with her and said, "I love you."
It was a whole thing ... And Matt ... At some point in the process, somebody-- You said (Matt) "What if he just doesn't say it?". And the what was great about that was ...
Matt: We got to hold it back for later.
Alex: You hold it back, so he says it on the bridge and then it's more meaningful.

"He (Andrew) did 30 different improvs of that moment. All of which were great."

- Peter angry in his room:
You realize in the process in this moment here, the --
There's a version of this scene which was cut against --
Which was much angrier and cut against more angry, aggressive music.
And played completely differently, and it really played against what was happening here."

- The train thing was Marc Webbs' idea.

- Train scene:
“There was a longer section we cut, I think correctly about the nature of the science...
The nature of the virus that Richard had, you know, basically locked the blood work to his DNA and that some of the tests that he had done enhanced the disease cells in people who had the disease.
But it also enhanced healthy cells in people who were healthy...Which explained one of them was gonna become a goblin, and one of them was gonna become Spider-Man.
And ultimately it was just one of those things that we didn’t really need to tell the story.”

"But it was interesting because we went back and forth and back and forth... about how much information for plot's sake you needed ...
and what the scene really needed to be about. And what the scene really needed to be about for Peter Parker was the revelation "My father loved me." and that he wasn't a spy."

- The battery on Electro's head was Marc Webb's idea to set up the fact that he could be overloaded

- Goblin transformation:
Alex: There was a whole sequence that we ended up cutting out of the movie... again, for the momentum of it all where the Goblin, like, blew up the base, first the basement and then the ground floor of Oscorp.
And it was an awesome sequence. It was super cool. And it was one of those things that you have to measure out.
There is sot much happening in the third act ... And there is so much action in it, that a certain point, I think we all are sensitive to when does the audience begin to turn off to too much happening ?
And so we ended up cutting, but it was a great sequence."

"There's a shot coming up here"
Matt " It was actually the first appearance of him on the glider, and the truth is , it slightly stepped on the reveal of him later.
And we felt very strongly that you didn't wanna telegraph that. You know what I mean ?

"This was also one of those scenes that had to be modulated a lot.
When we first saw it, it was really pretty horrific...And terrifying, and beautiful the way Marc had designed it. But it was, you know, the stuff of nightmares.
And so we had to dial it back to -- You know, and experiment with it."

- Electro's head on building was something Marc Webb designed himself, way before the shooting of the movie.

Thank you for this! Though it was interesting to hear them talk about the ideas they had for this film, it really does feel as if the filmmakers didn't really know what they wanted to do for TASM2; I bet the script was just really messy and confused the actors. I wouldn't be surprised if Andrew complained about the lack of direction and specificity that the script had, having to reshoot so many things and improvise so many parts.
I can understand having one or two more alternate takes for scenes in a film but this is pretty shocking.
 
I like how the producers keep saying "Do we really need to tell this story?" Um, apparently YES, you do.

The flashback sequence with Peter and Harry as kids at Peter's parents funeral with Norman watching over them would have been awesome and added another layer to their history. They should have put this in the movie.

As for the deleted scenes, both the Goblin attacking Oscorp and Peter visiting Harry at Oscorp, especially the latter of the two, would have impacted the film in a positive way.
 
What the hell were avi and Matt thinking? Nobody in their right mind would think of something so foolish. What the hell happened to you avi. You use to be a good producer now you are just screwing yourself over including your buddy tomach
 
I mean, there's also runtime you have to think about. Which leads me to thinking maybe most of the flaws fall on the script to begin with. That being said, I still enjoy the ambition of this sequel.
 
When we hear the comments, here are the shocking points :

- Marc Webb does not comment on his own film, but it is the producers. He only comments the deleted scenes.
- So: Only Avi and Matt producers and writers comment the film.

--> Avi has little to say about the film. You could believe that he has nothing to do, he watches the film and let others talk. He made ​​a joke about a private jet, and told a story about Stan Lee and him, and recalled his pride in the success of Iron Man movie (today responsible ofthe success of the MCU).
--> Mattseems to have had a significant weight on the revisions of the screenplay.
Nevertheless he recalls that he fought for the vision of Marc Webb. So why not have fought to keep the cut scenes (flashback, goblin transformation, extended scenes ...)!

=> Marc justified the cuts by time/runtime constraints. Why 10 -20 additional minutes (I'm talking about : flashback of Peter and Harry, extended dialogue/scenes, Flash scene, Goblin transformation, attacking Oscorp, and seeing Felicia) prevents a film to be stronger and deeper?

=> Matt and Alex justified the cuts by "Do we really need this to tell the story?" - Of course! Why not just do not follow the script?

There is also the issue of children responsible for censorship of certain scenes.
On this point, these guys need to understand that children see worse on tv and horrible things in the media, youtube and video games. Spider-Man is NOT a superhero for little kids. And I think that Fox and the X-Men movies have understood that thoses big movies have a large audience, not only comic book kids fans. You don't cut a scene because a few parents said their child had "nightmare"...:doh:




The film is good. :yay:
But the justification for cuts, deleted scenes, are NOT valid.
 
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Man, avi arad is an idiot. I really have no idea if the stuff is true. I mean I have heard some idiotic things in my life and known a couple of idiots but this sure was just a massive missed opportunity. Not only was Marc's film ruined but there were so many good stuff here that could've made the movie ALOT better. I know I kept yammering on about a directors cut but there is absolutely no reason why we can't have one. We have these things called a DVD player and a remote. We can control the movie when we want. It's not like something we've experienced in the theaters. We can just pause, rewind and fast forward. The next time the third movie is in development Marc Webb should have creative freedom and the entire movie should be unedited. I really do not care if the movie takes 4 and a half hours or 5 hours the movie has to be good. I want Marc Webb, andrew garfield and the rest of the cast to succeed and I want spiderman to have a good movie for once. It's not even fair when there are films from marvel, DC, and quite possibly dark horse and image taking the glory. Just for once calm down and make this franchise succeed. If the rights need to be kept then just let marc, drew, and any talent working on this franchise do their own thing.
 
Man, avi arad is an idiot. I really have no idea if the stuff is true. I mean I have heard some idiotic things in my life and known a couple of idiots but this sure was just a massive missed opportunity. Not only was Marc's film ruined but there were so many good stuff here that could've made the movie ALOT better. I know I kept yammering on about a directors cut but there is absolutely no reason why we can't have one. We have these things called a DVD player and a remote. We can control the movie when we want. It's not like something we've experienced in the theaters. We can just pause, rewind and fast forward. The next time the third movie is in development Marc Webb should have creative freedom and the entire movie should be unedited. I really do not care if the movie takes 4 and a half hours or 5 hours the movie has to be good. I want Marc Webb, andrew garfield and the rest of the cast to succeed and I want spiderman to have a good movie for once. It's not even fair when there are films from marvel, DC, and quite possibly dark horse and image taking the glory. Just for once calm down and make this franchise succeed. If the rights need to be kept then just let marc, drew, and any talent working on this franchise do their own thing.

Just a friendly tip, maybe break this up into smaller paragraphs. Makes it easier to read instead of one huge thing.
 
BIG PROBLEM...I'm just now throwing the commentary on and are you kidding me that Marc Webb doesn't do the commentary for the film?! That right there says it all about the issues for this film to me...also Avi shut the hell up..stop talking about iron man...
 
Yeah, it just goes to show that avi is just jealous of marvel's success. Also avi sure is a jackass for not letting the creator of the film speak in his own god damn film
 
BIG PROBLEM...I'm just now throwing the commentary on and are you kidding me that Marc Webb doesn't do the commentary for the film?! That right there says it all about the issues for this film to me...also Avi shut the hell up..stop talking about iron man...

Yes, he is just commenting the deleted scenes, but not his own movie (Although he did comment TASM 1 movie).

The movie is commented by Avi Arad and Matt Tomalch (the two producers ... but seriously, Avi Arad has nothing interesting to say :doh:, he's just a business man! And STOP TALKING ABOUT IRON-MAN!! You are not the author of this film's success ... You were producer... Like Ghost Rider2 ... And It's a Spider-Man movie!! ), and Alex Kurtzman (he says some interesting stuff, which I put on my post) and Jeff Pinkner, the writers.
 
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I hope the sinister six movie and the amazing spiderman 3 does well because since people care more for movies I believe people are giving up on the character and people just have lack of hope for the character and this franchise
 
They literally came up with some of the weakest excuses to cut some of these scenes out :doh:
 
UltimateWebHead, how's your magno case?

Sexy :word:

lol. I really like it. The pictures don't do this case justice. It's constructed really well and I like the artwork--a worthy substitute for the steelbook.

You got the Magno case also?
 
Sexy :word:

lol. I really like it. The pictures don't do this case justice. It's constructed really well and I like the artwork--a worthy substitute for the steelbook.

You got the Magno case also?
Nice. :yay: Glad you like it.

Yeah I got the magno case as well. I've mentioned it already but there were only a total of 3 left for the 3D version when I arrived. This was only at 25 mins of the store opening.

As for the case, I really like it too. It's sleek as hell. That's about all I can say.
 
The Magno case with the yellow packaging is the 3D version and the red packaging is the 2D version, right?
 

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