The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread

[Billy the Poet]

Sony has no choice but to release a sequel, that's written in stone. If not, they loose the Spider-Man movie rights to MARVEL, and they simply won't allow that. Just look how FOX is holding on to X-MEN.

I see your point here. Then, again, I doubt Sony executives would decide to spend more money (at least another $150m) to make a sequel to a lackluster in their opinion.

If TAS underperforms in box office, its last salvation will be in the hands of DVD sales. And, if even DVDs won't sell out to make at least some money, certainly it will be better to forget about any sequels.

But, I doubt it will be a disappointment. Sony just needs to apply better marketing tactics next time, as I've previously noted.

 

[©KAW]

Then, again, I doubt Sony executives would decide to spend more money (at least another $150m) to make a sequel to a lackluster in their opinion.

Yes they would.

 

[Billy the Poet]

^^^

Why? To lose more money?

 

[Spider-Vader]

I think the most will be in the 210-300 million range. I do think this movie will be similar to Batman Begins, where people are scared off from the previous movie. I hear ALOT of hate about Spidey 3, even from people who aren't comic fans. But if the movie is good, I think it has a shot at 300 million. Though, it better hurry up before the king of next summer enters the ring.

 

[spider-neil]

the way I see it is spidey is a hugely popular character but a lot of that popularity is from the movies (many peoples introduction to the character) the raimi movies were beloved so sony rebooting the series may piss lots of people off, here's the thing though, I think people WANT to watch a new spidey movie (it's been 5 years since the last one) but are on the fence now because it's a reboot so;

if you are on the fence and your friends tell you not to bother watching the movie, then you're going to avoid the movie

but if your friends tell you you to check out this movie then you will check out the movie

I think more than avengers and TDKR (which people will watch regardless) WOM will be VITAL for spidey. this NEEDS to be a good movie or it is going to disappear without a trace.

 

[spider-neil]

I think the most will be in the 210-300 million range. I do think this movie will be similar to Batman Begins, where people are scared off from the previous movie. I hear ALOT of hate about Spidey 3, even from people who aren't comic fans. But if the movie is good, I think it has a shot at 300 million. Though, it better hurry up before the king of next summer enters the ring.

the perception of SM3 harming the new movie is totally false.

1. SM3 made a fortune in dvd/blu ray sales. if the movie was hated why did people buy it for their homes?

2. TF2/PotC3 were slammed movies but their sequels when on to make a fortune at the box office so the perception that a poor movie harms a future sequel isn't always accurate.

 

[psylockolussus]

^^^

He's just pissed after what happened to X:FC.

The movie was really well-made and I actually enjoyed it, but the fact is fact: it failed in box office.

What! I'm not pissed because of XFC's performance in the box office.

I'm pissed that they rebooted Spider-Man and canceled SM4.

 

[spider-neil]

potter took a 85% (85%!!) drop in ticket sales for his domestic take. I'm begining to think TDKR is irrelevent to spidey BO domestic take as spidey will need to make the majority of his money in the first two weeks REGARDLESS of who follows him.

 

[©KAW]

^^^

Why? To lose more money?

To not give the movie rights to Marvel/Disney, period. X-Men:FC and Fantastic Four 2 didn't make the kind of money FOX wanted, do you see them saying, we give up, MARVEL can have the rights back. Plus, if you think Sony isn't going to make back their money of 200M through the box office, DVDs, Cable rights and merchandising for this film, you're nuts. Either way, Marvel/Disney are not getting Spider-Man's movie rights back, bet the farm on that baby-boy.

 

[©KAW]

potter took a 85% (85%!!) drop in ticket sales for his domestic take. I'm begining to think TDKR is irrelevent to spidey BO domestic take as spidey will need to make the majority of his money in the first two weeks REGARDLESS of who follows him.

Most big movies make their money in first 2 weeks, and they don't stop making money when another big film comes out, maybe less, but they don't stop making money. It's the same thing people said with SM3, Shrek 3 and Pirates 3 coming out weeks apart from one another (in the same month), all three films did well regardless of all 3 films sucking ass.

 

[TheDragonator]

To not give the rights to /Disney, period. X-Men:FC and 2 didn't make the kind of money FOX wanted, do you see them saying, we give up, can have the rights back. Plus, if you think Sony isn't going to make back their money of 200M through the , DVDs, Cable rights and merchandising for this film, you're nuts. Either way, Marvel/Disney are not getting Spider-'s movie rights back, bet the farm on that baby-boy.

But First Class was the best reviewed Superhero film this year, and it was a damn nice film, too. Fantastic Four is more likely than X-Men.

(BTW, in the Poll, I thought it was for Worldwide, not Domestic)

Also, I'm going to be really, really bold, and say, honestly? If the film continues to look as good as it does?

1 Billion Dollars.

*cracks knuckles in anticipation for haters*

Think about it. The Spider-Man franchise has always been very, very strong.

Unadjusted Numbers:
Spider-Man: $821,708,551
Spider-Man 2: $783,766,341
Spider-Man 3: $890,871,626

And those are 2001-2007 numbers. Check it out adjusted for inflation:

Adjusted Numbers:
Spider-Man: $1,031,917,950
Spider-Man 2: $937,374,585
Spider-Man 3: $970,702,990

Add a 3D boost to that and good marketing, and we have a potential TDK dethroner here.

What's that you say? 'The last film left a bad taste in the audience's mouth?' Well, let's look at two of the more recent films to reach one billion:

Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides
Transformers: Dark of the Moon

Unless I'm mistaken, didn't the previous installments of those two franchises were generally frowned upon? Specifically that of the latter, which is regarded by many as one of the worst movies ever made?

 

[spideyguy16]

Fans dislike spider-man 3 but general audience like it

 

[©KAW]

So all they have to do is create another piece of crap for the general audience and it'll be a hit. Yay!

 

[spideyguy16]

Well thank you for twisting my words around.

 

[White_Knight191]

Domesctically it'll make between $310-400m I think.
Worldwide, I'm excepting something like $750-850m.

 

[spideyguy16]

i know im watching it AT LEAST 3 times

 

[©KAW]

I doubt it'll reach 300M domestically, 250M is pushing it. If it makes over half a billion worldwide that'll be a great start for a reboot.

 

[Marvel Spider]

i know im watching it AT LEAST 3 times

Me too. The maximum number I've seen a film in theaters is twice, but this will no doubt set the new record (if I like it, which everything points to it being great).

 

[chaseter]

Add a 3D boost to that and good marketing, and we have a potential TDK dethroner here.

No we don't. Spidey is huge popular but this movie will get no where near $500 million domestic.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

ASM will do better than TDK overseas. It will beat it by at least 300 million overseas.

 

[chaseter]

You think Spider-Man will get $800 million + overseas? IDK about that.

 

[©KAW]

ASM will do better than TDK overseas. It will beat it by at least 300 million overseas.

Did you fail Math in school? Those are some huge ass unrealistic numbers you're throwing down.

 

[TheDragonator]

No we don't. Spidey is huge popular but this will get no where near $500 million domestic.

I meant worldwide, not domestic.

I made that pretty clear, I think.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Domesctically it'll make between $310-400m I think.
Worldwide, I'm excepting something like $750-850m.

I actually see this new series taking a similar trajectory to the recent batman films, IF the films are good. Collect more fans with each succesive film. Batman Begins started the momentum modestly (205 million dometically) and the series will hit the apex next summer (anyone doubt TDKR will cross 1 billion worldwide?). I think Sony is thinking along those lines with this new series, which is why I am certain Gwen's death will happen in a climactic third film, but that is another topic.

If the movie is good, then I expect the film to make between $250 -300 million domestically. That may seem low to some, but when you factor in how most reboots have performed recently (Batman Begins -205 million, Superman Returns -200 million, First Class -150 million) these numbers would actually be ahead of the curve. There seems to be some apathy in some circles for whether a reboot is needed (I personally feel Spidey has never been honored properly on the big screen, but I think Webb gets the character in a way Raimi never did.)

Now saying that, I can easily see it doing the numbers White_Knight191 listed above from the get-go, but that is where word of mouth will play a big roll. ASM is the fourth film for spidey, so there will be some inevitable fatigue. Especially since momentum hit a wall with SM3, despite what some people would like to believe. Which is why a new direction was needed and a rebuilding of the Spidey-brand will need to take place to some extent.

 

[TheDragonator]

r (anyone doubt TDKR will cross 1 billion ?)

A lot more than you'd think. Several people here, on other sites, and that I know in real life, doubt severely TDKR will get 1 billion. Mainly because the reason that film was so successful was because Ledger was simply amazing in that film, and highly doubt that TDKR can strike that high again. Since Begins and TDK's grosses varied so much, it's definitely viewed on as nearly impossible to replicate.

Spidey, however, has had consistent 700-800 WW numbers. Some good marketing here and some 3D viewings there, I'd say Spidey's much more likely to hit Billion than TDKR.

Avengers, though....I think Avengers will make 500-650 WW. Not 'OMGBESTFILMEVERBBQSTOMP', but somewhere around Thor or Iron Man's numbers would be safe to assume. Maybe a bit higher, since Disney's doing the marketing for it.