The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread

[Smegger56]

Smegger, you spelled definitely wrong.

You know what, it came up with the red line of wrong and so I did correct. So my browser is wrong lol

 

[Jexx]

You said defiantly instead of definitely. Defiantly is a word, it's just not the right word.

 

[Smegger56]

You said defiantly instead of definitely. Defiantly is a word, it's just not the right word.

Oh I know. Some reason, it chose that word to correct it.

NEED TO PROOF READ BEFORE SENDING

 

[Dragon]

As long as you know he just disappears without the cops even noticing. Same thing of using an ability that Spider-Man doesn't have, correct?

Nope. He climbed out the window and into the shadows. Since at that point, for those cops someone being able to scale a wall is impossible, they don't bother to look up toward the roof of the building.

Plus...Spidey most likely just went inside the exact same time the burglar unlocks the car. The is the only answer anyways since the thief had to use something to unlock the car.

Spidey was already in the backseat when the burglar sits down. So Spidey had to have entered through the back door (You're not really suggesting that Spidey crawled over the burglar without his feeling it, right?) thus, Spidey broke into the car on his own. So he's just as guilty. And there is no "answer". It was a bull**** gimmick on the filmmaker's part because they couldn't think of anything that would make sense.

Who cares if there was fingerprints on that gun and knife?

The justice system

The cops only see the burglar falling down and then going up to see Spidey standing there; zero proof that shows the burglar fell from his own ignorance of tripping. I think you're joking in trying to defend that silly point. Peter will be slammed as guilty because there's no way he could be found not guilty.

Sorry, but they can tell when someone falls out of a window versus being pushed based on their trajectory. Someone forcefully pushed (Especially by someone with Spidey's strength) would fall further from the building than someone who tripped. There'd also likely be bruising on the crook's ankle when he smacked into the pipe.

But you have said TDK is still overrated, which is ridiculous to say. If you even say it's the best Batman film overall, how can it be overrated?

It's overrated in that so many folks says it's THE GREATEST CBM EVER! It isn't. And proclaim it to be near flawless. It's very flawed. In the overall however it's the best Batman film. Don't get me wrong. There are things in B'89, Returns and even Forever that are better. But again, in the overall TDK is the best.

And also, you have said Spider-Man 3 is still great as its flaws, even telling me that I should look past those flaws since I look past some flaws on The Dark Knight. Totally different situation when S-M 3's flaws kills the movie.

Again, this is BS on your part. In nearly every post I've made about Spidey 3 I've said it was subpar. I said it has some great MOMENTS. And it does. In the overall it isn't a good film as was Spidey 1 and 2.

The thing with me is that unlike alot of professional fans I don't say a film is all or nothing. It's all great or it's all bad. And I don't go for the flash in the pan. Isn't it funny that in every franchise, when you have a much panned film- the next film is hailed as being "Great" by fans?

Batman & Robin/Batman Begins
X3 / First Class
Spider-Man 3/The Amazing Spider-Man

Fans love to go in extremes. I don't do that. I have a laundry list of what I didn't like about all three Raimi films. But they are good and this new film is in no freakin' way great/dark/realistic/non-cheesy. It's very flawed.

 

[Harley2004]

Glad its doing so well. Its good to have a marvel movie, well marvel character atleast with so much depth and real drama. Look foward to the sequel.

 

[DeathChill]

I seriously cannot believe anyone is hung up on how he got into the car and considers it a huge failing. So..weird.

 

[Jexx]

Dragon, he said when the car was unlocked. You do realize that the device probably unlocked all of the doors?

 

[Dragon]

What about guys like me who, before the reboot and a possible SM4, was desperate for a reboot?

Dude, everybody has their likes and dislikes. I'm not trashing anyone for simply not liking the Raimi films. I will however call someone out about specific things like what sparked this debate. That Raimi's dialogue was ALL cheese, while TASM had all realistic powerful dialogue.

TASM did not have a bad script but it wasn't perfect. IMO, the characters where definitely written better here, and I preferred the way the Ben death played out with it not being resolved in the first film.

I'm sorry, it had a very bad script. It was uneven, the structure poor and the characters poorly developed. They aren't even true to the comics, but then they don't have to be. Most folks have just let alot of things go, believing that it'll be fixed in the sequels. No great film can stand on that.

There are things about the Raimi trilogy that I love.

There were things about TASM that I loved. Or at least really liked. Garfield (Given a great script he could be a great Spidey) Stone (same deal). The school fight- add that to the list of great Spidey action scenes. Other bits of Spidey action.

Anyway, $340 million so far? Not a bad return so far I must say

Just not bad. The poorest showing for a Spidey film so far.

..I like the Raimi trilogy.

But honestly, I only have saw you defend the Raimi trilogy and spit on ASM. I am a new member, yes, but you're making a bad first impression.

I wind up spending so much time defending the Raimi films because so many here invest so much time into bashing them. And attacking anyone who doesn't love every aspect of TASM. RIM ditched these boards because he's was being pummelled for not returning the verdict that the majority here wanted.

And again- the attacks are silly- such as the "Goblin Jr." line from Spidey 3. Whether you thought it was funny or not- it wasn't a bad line or didn't make sense. And the car-jacking scene in TASM really didn't make sense.

 

[Jexx]

I thought that regardless of the fact that I was wondering how Spidey got in the car, that it was a fun and great scene.

 

[Dragon]

Dragon, he said when the car was unlocked. You do realize that the device probably unlocked all of the doors?

No matter the explanation, Spidey was in the car before the car-jacker and didn't make a sound when opening the door. Completely impossible. It'd be like Spidey making his blood droplet be silent in Spidey 1.

 

[Dragon]

I thought that regardless of the fact that I was wondering how Spidey got in the car, that it was a fun and great scene.

The fact that some folks are willing to overlook problems don't make them disappear. If you loved the scene, then great. But then understand when people love things you don't. Ridiculing Spidey 3 while praising a film that's also flawed doesn't put anyone on the side of the angels.

 

[Jexx]

Question, why is him leaping up to the ceiling silent? Regardless of the fact that he can crawl around silently (which is honestly implausible in itself), why did Norman not hear him land on the ceiling?

And if Peter started moving once the blood dropped, Norman should of saw him moving, and regardless of that, we should of saw Peter go out the window anyway.

The scene is just as implausible as the car-jacking scene.

 

[Jexx]

The fact that some folks are willing to overlook problems don't make them disappear. If you loved the scene, then great. But then understand when people love things you don't. Ridiculing Spidey 3 while praising a film that's also flawed doesn't put anyone on the side of the angels.

Do you think I'm saying that? I actually liked Spider-Man 3. It wasn't great, but I enjoyed it for what it was.

I haven't bagged on any of the movies to justify not liking it, or liking ASM.

 

[DeathChill]

Uh, what if he waited until the car jacker opened his door and opened it at the same time. Then we wouldn't notice the door sound, not that it even matters. How in the world does the car jacking scene not make sense? Simply because we never heard the door open when he got in?

 

[bullets]

Dragon, he said when the car was unlocked. You do realize that the device probably unlocked all of the doors?

Obviously. Some people are just trying to find faults.

 

[Smegger56]

Dude, everybody has their likes and dislikes. I'm not trashing anyone for simply not liking the Raimi films. I will however call someone out about specific things like what sparked this debate. That Raimi's dialogue was ALL cheese, while TASM had all realistic powerful dialogue.



I'm sorry, it had a very bad script. It was uneven, the structure poor and the characters poorly developed. They aren't even true to the comics, but then they don't have to be. Most folks have just let alot of things go, believing that it'll be fixed in the sequels. No great film can stand on that.



There were things about TASM that I loved. Or at least really liked. Garfield (Given a great script he could be a great Spidey) Stone (same deal). The school fight- add that to the list of great Spidey action scenes. Other bits of Spidey action.



Just not bad. The poorest showing for a Spidey film so far.



I wind up spending so much time defending the Raimi films because so many here invest so much time into bashing them. And attacking anyone who doesn't love every aspect of TASM. RIM ditched these boards because he's was being pummelled for not returning the verdict that the majority here wanted.

Stop defeding them then. It's clear people LIKE ME think they're average with boring pacing and boring dialogue. You need to I think the script is fine. Not great but enjoyable. So if no great fiolm can stand on a bad script, explain Spiderman 2 which is seen as one of the great comic films?

So I would argue that Garfield was a great Spider-Man/Peter Parker. But in the end this is all opinion.

I also bought in to the dialogue more than I did the Raimi films. The conversation between Pete and Ben was brilliant IMO. I preferred that to those horrible speeches Aunt May gave to Pete. Never EVER liked them.

It's been what, 6 days since the world premiere and it's had just under 350 million WW, for a reboot soon after SM-3, with some of the reviews it's been getting (just for being a reboot)? As long as it makes the money for Sony to be happy and get the creative team back, they may give us the next big comic suquel (note, I said MAY).

On to RIM, for anyone who had a go at him for giving his opinion on it, which indicated he didn't like it (would love to read his review) should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Spider-Dude23]

Stop defeding them then. It's clear people LIKE ME think they're average with boring pacing and boring dialogue. You need to I think the script is fine. Not great but enjoyable. So if no great fiolm can stand on a bad script, explain Spiderman 2 which is seen as one of the great comic films?

So I would argue that Garfield was a great Spider-Man/Peter Parker. But in the end this is all opinion.

I also bought in to the dialogue more than I did the Raimi films. The conversation between Pete and Ben was brilliant IMO. I preferred that to those horrible speeches Aunt May gave to Pete. Never EVER liked them.

It's been what, 6 days since the world premiere and it's had just under 350 million WW, for a reboot soon after SM-3, with some of the reviews it's been getting (just for being a reboot)? As long as it makes the money for Sony to be happy and get the creative team back, they may give us the next big comic suquel (note, I said MAY).

On to RIM, for anyone who had a go at him for giving his opinion on it, which indicated he didn't like it (would love to read his review) should be ashamed of themselves.

Can you link me to RIMs review please, man?

 

[Smegger56]

Can you link me to RIMs review please, man?

Not sure if he's posted it. I PM'd him to see if he has. Looking forward to reading his thoughts on it.

 

[Ajendo]

He didn't write one.

He said some people won't like the movie which included himself and compared it to green lantern. Then he just disappeared, like spidey getting in and out of the car.

 

[Spider-Dude23]

Not sure if he's posted it. I PM'd him to see if he has. Looking forward to reading his thoughts on it.

Yeah same. It's probably one of the reviews I wanted to read the most.

 

[Scarlettess]

No matter the explanation, Spidey was in the car before the car-jacker and didn't make a sound when opening the door. Completely impossible. It'd be like Spidey making his blood droplet be silent in Spidey 1.

He got in through the sunroof.

Question, why is him leaping up to the ceiling silent? Regardless of the fact that he can crawl around silently (which is honestly implausible in itself), why did Norman not hear him land on the ceiling?

And if Peter started moving once the blood dropped, Norman should of saw him moving, and regardless of that, we should of saw Peter go out the window anyway.

The scene is just as implausible as the car-jacking scene.

Also if Norman has super hearing that he can hear a SINGLE drop of blood hit the floor, then how does he NOT hear Spidey crawling?

Look I'm not looking for a debate but your defense for your argument is just silly. Of course both movies have some cheese in it....it's Spider-Man! Avengers was cheesy too, heck even some of the lines in BB and TDK were cheesy. To say ASM is mooore cheesy than the Raimi trilogy? that's your opinion but I disagree.

 

[DeathChill]

To say ASM is mooore cheesy than the Raimi trilogy? that's your opinion but I disagree.

I don't think many people would say TASM is more cheesy/campy than the Raimi series.

 

[Dragon]

Obviously. Some people are just trying to find faults.

And some people are closing their eyes to them.

 

[Thwip!]

With regards to the cheese, every cbm has it. sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt

And Dragon, these are some poor arguments you're putting forward

 

[Dragon]

He got in through the sunroof.

Cute

Also if Norman has super hearing that he can hear a SINGLE drop of blood hit the floor, then how does he NOT hear Spidey crawling?

You think it takes super hearing to hear a drop of blood fall from a ceiling? Ever have a ceiling pipe leak? You can definitely hear it.

Look I'm not looking for a debate but your defense for your argument is just silly. Of course both movies have some cheese in it....it's Spider-Man!

So, you've just agreed with my argument and yet called it silly.

Avengers was cheesy too, heck even some of the lines in BB and TDK were cheesy. To say ASM is mooore cheesy than the Raimi trilogy? that's your opinion but I disagree.

1. I didn't mention Avengers, BB (Which I have said I didn't even like) or TDK in this debate. And yes, they have loads of cheese as well.

2. I didn't say TASM was cheesier than Raimi's films, just that's it has its share of cheese. I said the script is bad. And it's very bad.