The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - Part 10

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Thanks to those of you speaking up on the very obvious fact that Peter still is randomly bitten by a spider which unlocks his powers.

+1 while I'm not uber keen on the idea of Richard experimenting on his kid, it's pretty clear Oscorp aren't strapping him down and sticking him with spider venom either.

But, if in this film, Peter's DNA has been tampered with by his father in such a way that only a genetically-altered spider also developed by his father has to act as a catalyst, then it's not so random anymore.

No, then it's such a stupid and blatant coincidence that there is no way I can believe that's how the film will play out. I'm giving Webb and Sony a little credit here, I don't think they're that dumb. It's why I think Sony is being intentionally misleading with the ad.


The whole point of the wrestling scene--which, BTW, he actually does take seriously--is that he's more interested in using his powers to make a quick buck than he is stopping bad guys or in the service of others. The whole point is that he's motivated to fight crime because of he feels he caused his Uncle's death by not stopping a criminal when he had the power to do so and doesn't want to repeat that mistake ever again. If he's already fighting crime before that happens and then continues to do so afterwards, then he's motivation for being a superhero changes.

The point is he's engaged in an illicit activity for reasons that aren't selfless - whether it's wrestling or crimefighting doesn't really matter - as long as he lets a guy go and later regrets it for obvious reasons. It works for stopping small time crooks just as well as it does for wrestling imo.

The only real difference would seem to be wrestling for money vs crimefighting for kicks, or bullying, or whatever. The end result is the same: my own gratification let Uncle Ben die.
 
Yeah, I'm with Bobby on this one. Instead of thinking of a great response, I'll just go with this. I think some of us just see Spidey differently and certain aspects of the character differently which, guess what, is why he's written by different artists and there will be different takes of him on the screen. I really don't see how anything happening or rumored to happen changes his character but also, that's just it, it's a rumor. Why don't we just wait to see what happens or at least until something official comes down. If the origin is changed, and it probably is, as long as it doesn't change who he is, what he does and he's still recognizable as Peter Parker/Spider-Man, does it really matter?

To me it doesn't. I think it's not really debatable now that the Raimi films had a much more faithful origin, but I really think they missed the characterizations. However, in the end, he is still very much a relatable character in both versions.
 
+1 while I'm not uber keen on the idea of Richard experimenting on his kid, it's pretty clear Oscorp aren't strapping him down and sticking him with spider venom either.



No, then it's such a stupid and blatant coincidence that there is no way I can believe that's how the film will play out. I'm giving Webb and Sony a little credit here, I don't think they're that dumb. It's why I think Sony is being intentionally misleading with the ad.




The point is he's engaged in an illicit activity for reasons that aren't selfless - whether it's wrestling or crimefighting doesn't really matter - as long as he lets a guy go and later regrets it for obvious reasons. It works for stopping small time crooks just as well as it does for wrestling imo.

The only real difference would seem to be wrestling for money vs crimefighting for kicks, or bullying, or whatever. The end result is the same: my own gratification let Uncle Ben die.

Exactly. He's trying to get back at a world that kicked dirt on him for as long as he can remember. He takes out his revenge on crooks and whoever else gets in his way. Plus, in 2012, is it REALLY possible that Peter would find some wrestling show to do based in NYC? In the 60s that made sense but now? I don't see it. Unless Vince McMahon is putting want ads out on Craig's List, that ain't happening
 
To me it doesn't. I think it's not really debatable now that the Raimi films had a much more faithful origin, but I really think they missed the characterizations. However, in the end, he is still very much a relatable character in both versions.

And with me, I don't care how faithful something is to an origin, I care about the character. I know that's probably blasphemous in these parts, but if he gets bitten by a spider and gets powers, cool, I'm good to go. As long as the characterization of Peter is spot on and the characterization of Spider-Man is spot on, sign me up, man. Simple as that
 
No, then it's such a stupid and blatant coincidence that there is no way I can believe that's how the film will play out. I'm giving Webb and Sony a little credit here, I don't think they're that dumb. It's why I think Sony is being intentionally misleading with the ad.
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I don't know, I really think it might be true. It's not necessarily a coincidence if you take into account all the reasons why he ends up being bit. His parents are probably killed in a way that's connected to Oscorp. Peter finds his father's suitcase with info that leads him to Oscorp. And surprise, his father had something to do with the spiders at Oscorp. It's all connected. The only coincidence is that he's bitten by a spider at all.
 
What's important is that Peter ends up with these powers without ever having a choice in the matter. And honestly, the idea of a genius kid getting special abilities partly due to his genius father's actions is actually somewhat less of a stretch.
 
But, if in this film, Peter's DNA has been tampered with by his father in such a way that only a genetically-altered spider also developed by his father has to act as a catalyst, then it's not so random anymore. Not to mention it's yet another huge coincidence that's added to an ever growing list of coincidences about this film.
Remember how they're going for grounded? Check out this logic:

What kind of scientific organization leaves out a bunch of genetically altered spiders on public display, when said spiders are still being experimented on and the full effects of what would happen if they came into contact with humans has been undetermined? Sounds kind of dangerous and definitely something they wouldn't do. Also, why the hell were they doing it? Does anyone ever ask that question? What in the world were those scientists even planning to do with genetically altered spiders? Nothing. They just did it. They came from comics, and their only purpose was to make a spider that could give an unassuming young man super powers. That is the absolute furthest extent of why they were even there in the first place.

Now jump ahead to TASM. Peter's dad is working on something related to spider DNA and human DNA. He was doing this when Peter was still a young child. Supposedly, his dad experimented on Peter to further his studies. Was this on purpose, or was he forced to do it by some unseen player? *cough*NormanOsborn*cough. Whatever the case, it forces he and his wife to leave the young child with his aunt and uncle and never to return. But to add to the uniqueness of this origin, Peter doesn't get superpowers from his father's experiments on him, but by getting bitten, very randomly I might add, from a curious spider at one of Osborn's facilities. Well isn't that something?

Now all of a sudden we have an intriguing mystery on our hands that revolve around our hero! How about that? This is just my theory, but I'm guessing Richard Parker was forced to experiment on his son by Osborn to further development on whatever genetic madness he has planned for the world. Richard, not wanting to endanger his son, but also making it look to Osborn that he is complying, creates a fail-safe in Peter's DNA alteration, that only a certain event, like say getting bitten by a genetically altered spider, would unlock the results of that particular experiment. Perhaps he did this in an effort to protect Peter? Maybe Peter discovers this along the way?

I don't know about you, but all of that sounds way more interesting than the random event that we've all come to know and love for the past 60 years. There's an actual story happening here. Not just shot-for-shot, "this is how it happened in the comics" nonsense. This is going to be a good Spider-Man story, not a good Spider-Man re-telling.


The whole point of the wrestling scene--which, BTW, he actually does take seriously--is that he's more interested in using his powers to make a quick buck than he is stopping bad guys or in the service of others. The whole point is that he's motivated to fight crime because of he feels he caused his Uncle's death by not stopping a criminal when he had the power to do so and doesn't want to repeat that mistake ever again. If he's already fighting crime before that happens and then continues to do so afterwards, then he's motivation for being a superhero changes.
You're missing the point entirely.

How do you know that he sees himself as a superhero? Maybe he does, but I'm willing to bet that he's gonna be so lost in the persona that he's created that he'll start believing himself that he's an outlaw vigilante. It is going to take the events of him stopping the Lizard's onslaught of NYC for everyone to recognize him as a hero and not a punk who's above the law, which I can almost guarantee you is what will come off as in his early crime-fighting career.

He will fight crime because he's taking responsibility for Ben's death. It's going to happen. We have no evidence to suggest it won't. He's going to beat up some dudes as Spidey for a while before that happens. He's going to piss off the NYPD by doing so because he's doing it recklessly and tagging his mark all over the city and making too big a name for himself. He don't get the responsibility thing yet. He will.
 
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And with me, I don't care how faithful something is to an origin, I care about the character. I know that's probably blasphemous in these parts, but if he gets bitten by a spider and gets powers, cool, I'm good to go. As long as the characterization of Peter is spot on and the characterization of Spider-Man is spot on, sign me up, man. Simple as that
This.

We need some variation on this character. I've been saying since the beginning that I wanted a better origin story from the get-go and this movie seems to be giving it to me on a silver platter with a pretty red bow on top. I love that they're changing it up. It fits perfectly into the universe they're crafting and it's original. I just love being actually excited for Spidey again.
 
At this point, I just hope the film doesn't end up being too convoluted.
 
This argument again?

Even if you don't take crimefighting seriously, you're still godamn doing it. It won't change that much once you get "serious" about it. The purpose will be the same and there won't be that much of an impact on the character's way of thinking...

The difference is a simple as crimefighting for payback or revenge vs crimefighting to save lives. The purpose is totally not the same and it's a massive impact on the character's way of thinking. It's as clear as day. I'm unsure how one could claim otherwise.

It's the difference between "I'm going to go out and beat the bloody piss out of every crook I find." vs "I'm going to go out and hopefully save someone from a violent crime."
 
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This.

We need some variation on this character. I've been saying since the beginning that I wanted a better origin story from the get-go and this movie seems to be giving it to me on a silver platter with a pretty red bow on top. I love that they're changing it up. It fits perfectly into the universe they're crafting and it's original. I just love being actually excited for Spidey again.

Bingo. Your story, whatever it is, needs to fit in the universe you're creating. And this one, at least from what I can gather, works. How many times has this story been retold in comics? Dozens and there are always variations of it..spider-totem, Oz formula, wrestling or no wrestling, organic web or web shooters. At this point, if you don't expect SOME changes, then you're just not paying attention.

@mayo23 I think us discussing it and dissecting it is making it more convoluted then it actually is. We're just tossing theories around and we could all be dead wrong.
 
The difference is a simple as crimefighting for payback or revenge vs crimefighting to save lives. The purpose is totally not the same and it's a massive impact on the character's way of thinking. It's as clear as day.
Such as Punisher killing any criminal he can find as opposed to actually going out of his was to help people who criminals are hurting. This guy fights for himself and no one else.

Looks like Peter might just start off that way. How does none of that make sense?
 
The difference is a simple as crimefighting for payback or revenge vs crimefighting to save lives. The purpose is totally not the same and it's a massive impact on the character's way of thinking. It's as clear as day.

And the main difference is rules. In comic books, although most of them by definition are vigilantes, the difference is that guys like spider-man, batman, superman, etc. have a set of rules and a code they abide by while vigilantes don't. Fighting crime for revenge or to get back at the world for bullying you means you have no rules no code and no sense of responsibility.
 
@mayo23 I think us discussing it and dissecting it is making it more convoluted then it actually is. We're just tossing theories around and we could all be dead wrong.

It's not just that. They've got a lot of story to juggle within 2 hrs in general.
- Peter's parents (I'm thinking this will be the least focused, but greatly emphasized)
- Peter gaining powers, proto-spidey
- Uncle Ben's death
- Peter building relationship with Gwen and Dr. Connors
- Dr. Connors becoming the lizard and the battles b/w spider-man
- also lizard's biological attack and lizard men

We'll see though. Webb and the editor for 500 days of summer did a great job with the non-linear story telling.
 
It's not just that. They've got a lot of story to juggle within 2 hrs in general.
- Peter's parents (I'm thinking this will be the least focused, but greatly emphasized)
- Peter gaining powers, proto-spidey
- Uncle Ben's death
- Peter building relationship with Gwen and Dr. Connors
- Dr. Connors becoming the lizard and the battles b/w spider-man
- also lizard's biological attack and lizard men

We'll see though. Webb and the editor for 500 days of summer did a great job with the non-linear story telling.

Oh I wouldn't worry about that. They have good writers on this and a good director. A great writer will find ways to make everything flow and fit together.
 
Remember how they're going for grounded? Check out this logic:

What kind of scientific organization leaves out a bunch of genetically altered spiders on public display, when said spiders are still being experimented on and the full effects of what would happen if they came into contact with humans has been undetermined? Sounds kind of dangerous and definitely something they wouldn't do. Also, why the hell were they doing it? Does anyone ever ask that question? What in the world were those scientists even planning to do with genetically altered spiders? Nothing. They just did it. They came from comics, and their only purpose was to make a spider that could give an unassuming young man super powers. That is the absolute furthest extent of why they were even there in the first place.

Now jump ahead to TASM. Peter's dad is working on something related to spider DNA and human DNA. He was doing this when Peter was still a young child. Supposedly, his dad experimented on Peter to further his studies. Was this on purpose, or was he forced to do it by some unseen player? *cough*NormanOsborn*cough. Whatever the case, it forces he and his wife to leave the young child with his aunt and uncle and never to return. But to add to the uniqueness of this origin, Peter doesn't get superpowers from his father's experiments on him, but by getting bitten, very randomly I might add, from a curious spider at one of Osborn's facilities. Well isn't that something?

Now all of a sudden we have an intriguing mystery on our hands that revolve around our hero! How about that? This is just my theory, but I'm guessing Richard Parker was forced to experiment on his son by Osborn to further development on whatever genetic madness he has planned for the world. Richard, not wanting to endanger his son, but also making it look to Osborn that he is complying, creates a fail-safe in Peter's DNA alteration, that only a certain event, like say getting bitten by a genetically altered spider, would unlock the results of that particular experiment. Perhaps he did this in an effort to protect Peter? Maybe Peter discovers this along the way?

I don't know about you, but all of that sounds way more interesting than the random event that we've all come to know and love for the past 60 years. There's an actual story happening here. Not just shot-for-shot, "this is how it happened in the comics" nonsense. This is going to be a good Spider-Man story, not a good Spider-Man re-telling.

First of all, I'm not saying that the first Spider-Man film was perfect, and you do raise a good point about the downside with the way that particular film had Peter get his powers. In the original comics, at least, the scientists involved are not intentionally trying to create a "super-spider." It just so happens that a spider gets caught in some an "open-air radiation experiment" (yeah, yeah, I know it was the 1960s and we know much better now). Even when the Ultimate Spider-Man comic decided to use the genetically-altered spider route created by scientists, it's made very clear that they are test subjects being used to test an experimental super-soldier serum on and that one of them accidentally escapes.

Now, if this film is using that angle from Ultimate Spider-Man and making the added detail that it was Peter's dad who was the scientist who used these spiders as test subjects in his research, even though it still begs coincidence, the idea is still the same in that Peter doesn't get his powers due to anything "special" about him. However, if the rumor is true about his dad doing something to his DNA and the spider acts as a catalyst to "awaken" those powers already within him, not only does that make Peter "special" as opposed to "ordinary," it needlessly complicates how he got his powers. It's far easier to explain to people that Peter gets his powers from a radioactive/genetically-altered spider than it is to say Peter gets his powers through a combination of genetic-tampering by his dad when he was a kid and having a genetically-altered spider his dad also developed bite him and thus triggering his dormant powers.

Now, I understand they're trying to create a "mystery" surrounding his parents disappearance, adding in some kind of "dark conspiracy by a evil corporation" for good measure. Heck, I'm sure the logic behind having Richard Parker experiment on his own son for his own personal reasons is done in order to make him thematically similar to Curt Connors, who not only is apparently Richard Parker's old friend and colleague, but someone who is conducting experiments on himself using the same research for his own personal reasons, and thus making him that much more personal a villain for Spider-Man (even though he already was). The problem is, as you suggest, we have pretty good idea who the villain is and why Peter's parents disappeared and why they never came back. You can't really create much of a "dark conspiracy" and have it permeate for at least three movies if you pretty much can figure out fairly easily what that "dark conspiracy" actually is.

Finally, if you change the way how Peter gets his powers and becomes Spider-Man, then one can't exactly make the claim that this film will be a more faithful adaptation of the comics--which BTW is exactly what Sony and the makers of this film are suggesting with the whole "He has mechanical web-shooters and trash-talks bad guys and has Gwen Stacy as his first love interest instead of Mary Jane" while at the same time saying this film is a more "modern" "grounded" and "contemporary" take on Spider-Man. I do agree that, as long as you retain the core of what Spider-Man is, then one is free to tweak certain things. However, there are certain things which, if it gets tweaked too much, runs the risk of making them a completely different character. Remember the complaints people had about the Sandman being the real killer of Uncle Ben in Spider-Man 3? I'm just afraid that, if what is being rumored about the alterations in Spidey's origin are indeed true, it could potentially be just as bad for the same reason that was.


You're missing the point entirely.

How do you know that he sees himself as a superhero? Maybe he does, but I'm willing to bet that he's gonna be so lost in the persona that he's created that he'll start believing himself that he's an outlaw vigilante. It is going to take the events of him stopping the Lizard's onslaught of NYC for everyone to recognize him as a hero and not a punk who's above the law, which I can almost guarantee you is what will come off as in his early crime-fighting career.

He will fight crime because he's taking responsibility for Ben's death. It's going to happen. We have no evidence to suggest it won't. He's going to beat up some dudes as Spidey for a while before that happens. He's going to piss off the NYPD by doing so because he's doing it recklessly and tagging his mark all over the city and making too big a name for himself. He don't get the responsibility thing yet. He will.

It doesn't matter if he's fighting crime because he's doing so for kicks or to "stick to the man" or "wanting to blow off some steam"--the point is, if he's fighting crime before Uncle Ben is murdered for whatever reason, then he's still using his powers for the greater good. Or at least he believes he is. In either case, he's still stopping bad guys and still saving lives. The reason why the original origin is so powerful and tragic is because when Peter first gets his powers, he's not thinking about any of that. Fighting crime is not only the very last thing on his mind, he feels that it's not his duty to do so. If you have Spider-Man fighting crime before the tragic circumstances that led to Uncle Ben's death, you've basically made him no different than this guy:

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It doesn't matter if he's fighting crime because he's doing so for kicks or to "stick to the man" or "wanting to blow off some steam"--the point is, if he's fighting crime before Uncle Ben is murdered for whatever reason, then he's still using his powers for the greater good.

This is where we differ. "sticking it to the man" or "blowing off steam" or "Giving some payback to these bullying criminal sons a *****es" is not the greater good, it's a teenage kid using super powers irresponsibly.

n the comics Pete believed that wrestling for money to buy a car was 'for the right reasons' and it bit him in the ass. "Fighting crime" is meaningless if one does it for the wrong reasons, no matter how justified one feels.
 
[QUOTE="_____";23154651]Anyone here wish marvel had the movie rights over Sony? I do[/QUOTE]Let me see...
- Sony has recently made the Raimi's trilogy and Spectacular Spider-man...
- Marvel is making Ultimate Spider-Man...

My final answer is... hell no.
 
What's your stance on Raimi's movies? I don't think I've ever read your opinion on them.
The first two? Great films. The third? Not so much, I believe Raimi and the studio both lost sight with where to take it. I was glad for the reboot after hearing what SM4 was going to be. Not only had the studio made things a mess but I got the sense that Raimi wasn't being ambitious enough... I mean, the Vulture? Felicia Hardy? :dry: Plus even as not a long time comic fan, I've always found things I heard wasn't explored in Raimi's films interesting such as Gwen, Webshooters, Spidey's wit/antics etc. Shame the greatness of Alfred Molina's Doc Ock, J.K Simmons' Jameson, Rosemary Harris's Aunt May and the like will have to be replaced though, they're so iconic in the roles it's hard to live down anything else in cinematic form.

What's going Hulk with his origin mean? Are you referring to the back story with his parents?

There's plenty of comic stories that delve into Peter's parents. I think if they keep a clear focus on what they want to do with it then it shouldn't get messy.
Ah, I should have explained that. There seems to be some sort of conspiracy behind what happened to his parents, and with his father being a scientist and Doc Connors dialogue in the trailer about what happened to him not being an acciddent, it's beginning to sound like Peter was already engineered with spider powers and the spider bite only served as the catalyst to activate these powers, incredibly reminiscent of what Ang Lee did to Hulk's origin.
 
Not at all. Marvel doesn't make bad movies, but they're all so generic, so safe. Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, and The Incredible Hulk all look so similar. None of them are special in anyway. Look at The Amazing Spider-Man, it's so visually different in every way. Are there parts of Sony I don't like? Sure. They're greedy, cheap, and have Avi Arad. But I would take all of those over a generic superhero movie.

I totally agree! This film looks magical to me, that's a feeling I've never gotten from any Marvel film (have yet to see Avengers however, will watch it today).
 
What is the quality that distinguishes Spider-Man from every other superhero out there? He is "the hero who could be you." What does this mean exactly. Well, in part, it is because Peter Parker, outside of his costumed identity, has to deal with the problems, responsibilities, and obligations each and every one us make everyday, that much is indeed true. But that is only ONE part of it; an important and fundamental part, to be sure, but not the only part.

Unlike other heroes, Peter Parker doesn't gain his powers due to being an alien from another planet, or because he happens to be tremendously wealthy, or because he has a unique set of genes that make him "special," or because he was "destined to become the chosen one." He gets his powers in a manner not unlike how we find sometimes find ourselves thrust into greatness--through sheer dumb luck and bit of free will. Peter choose to be at that science exhibit and, it just so happens, he gets bitten a spider which also just so happens to give him incredible powers. The spider could have just as easily bitten anybody else there--even one of use if we just so happened to be there at the time.

Furthermore, upon getting his powers, what does Peter initially decide to do with them? Probably what a lot of us would do if something like that happened to us: we'd use them to get rich, or get back at the people who we believed had wronged us, or show off in front of our friends, or try out for sports, or perform practical jokes on unsuspecting people, or just do something stupid out of sheer fun. The last thing on our minds would be "I'm now going to make myself a costume so I can go out and fight crime." In other words, we would be thinking how these powers could benefit us instead of other people--not unlike the special talents and "gifts" we are ourselves have.

And what causes Peter to finally use those powers to fight crime and help other people? It's not just because he failed to stop a criminal who later went on to kill his Uncle Ben; it's because he, knowing full well the guy was a criminal and that he had the power to stop him, choose not to because he felt it wasn't his problem, because he didn't want to get involved. Because he felt it wasn't his responsibility. And it's because of that moment of arrogance, because he made a conscious decision, he unknowingly caused the death of the one person in his life who was truly like a father to him. And he fights crime after learning who it was that killed that person because he doesn't want to make that same mistake ever again.

Now if you have a Spider-Man who partially gets his powers as a result of genetic tampering when he was a child, and if you have him fighting crime before his Uncle gets killed, and thus have to come up with some other way of making him indirectly responsible for his death, then you have essentially created a different character. Sure, he may look like Spider-Man, have the same name and powers as Spider-Man, live in the same city as Spider-Man, have web-shooters like Spider-Man, and even make wisecracks just like Spider-Man, but it's not really Spider-Man. Because you have changed how he becomes who he is and why he does what he does, which is far more important than whatever surface elements may or may not be "faithful" to the comics.


Here is an article I posted on Comic Book Movie's Website regarding the responsibility lesson and Uncle Ben's death:

Now to move onto Uncle Ben's death. Apparently, it won't be Peter's main motivation, to become Spider-Man. I am not too concerned because I feel it will still be part of his emotional development, whether Uncle Ben dies before or after he becomes Spider-Man. What I have recently thought though, is the clip where Spider-Man is trash-talking the car thief, could be more significant then previously assumed. As we see in the clip, Spider-Man is wise-cracking the car thief, in a very abusive way. What we haven't seen, is the police officer who later arrives. In the trailer, it shows the officer taking a shot at Spidey point blank. Now my theory is because Spider-Man was doing that to the car thief, the police officer who arrives, probably thinks the car thief is the victim, rather than the criminal. This would fit nicely in with why George Stacy and the police force are after Spidey. The car thief would not be found guilty, so he was not charged for anything and is let go. Instead Spider-Man is seen as the enemy.

Now, bear with me because this is the part that get's interesting. In a recent article posted on this website, someone had figured out that the car thief is the guy who goes onto potentially kill Uncle Ben.

What I also know is that, when Peter confronts Flash at the school, Uncle Ben is called in to talk to the principal. Peter's actions cause Uncle Ben to change his shift to a later time in the evening, at the local store where he works. Now what I believe will happen, is that same car thief will end up shooting Uncle Ben because of Peter's irresponsible behaviour. Not only was it his fault for being irresponsible, when apprehending the car thief as Spider-Man but he will also be responsible for changing his uncle's shift time because of his scuffle with Flash, as Peter Parker.

This in my view, would be a fresh new way in telling Spider-Man's origin, whilst retaining the fundamentals that makes Spider-Man, Spider-Man. Why he becomes Spider-man before Uncle Ben's death is still a mystery, so we will have to wait and see, where they go with that. Right now though this is how I believe the responsibility part of the story will be told.


Now here is the recent interview with Marc Webb:

Is the truth about Peter Parker’s parents bigger than Uncle Ben’s death, in this story?


WEBB: The first domino in the story is the parents. He goes out looking for his father and he finds himself. That’s my tagline. There are a few elements that Marvel is very protective of, and Uncle Ben’s death is a very important part of the Spider-Man origin story. Uncle Ben’s death, transforming him and having an impact, in a certain way, is an incredibly important part of the mythology and I would never subvert that. That’s all I’ll say about that, but I’m very protective of that.
 
Hey, RIM. Nice to see you around. Thanks for the link.
 
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