The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - Part 3

[sweetre15]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...s-a-terrifying-thing/articleshow/11670041.cms

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Green Goblin is to Spider-Man as the Joker is to Batman.

In every reinvention they should at least be used once. Should damn near be a requirement.

Agreed. He was used in the 60's cartoon, 80's cartoon, Spider-man and Hist Amazing Freinds, Spider-Man: TAS, Spider-Man Unlimited, The Spectacular Spider-Man, and Sam Raimi's Spider-Man films. He should be used here as well.

 

[Hugebear]

IMO At this point only Lex has the luxury as the only archenemy that has to return, but I don’t feel the same for the rest. Magneto seems to be a whole other issue. He was like the main character in First Class. It's hard to say if I would still be interested in the sequel if he was gone.
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[Hunter Rider]

There was some concept art on the DVD for the first Spider-Man movie that I really liked, where he these sort of mechanical goggles over his eyes, but I couldn't find a pic. I did find this though.

 

[socool]

I do vaguely remember that picture. They had some cool ideas for GG...too bad very few of them every went anywhere.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

There was some concept art on the DVD for the first Spider-Man movie that I really liked, where he these sort of mechanical goggles over his eyes, but I couldn't find a pic. I did find this though.

I like that pic. I'd like to see a make-up approach to the next version of GG though.

 

[SpideyFan866]

IMO At this point only Lex has the luxury as the only archenemy that has to return, but I don’t feel the same for the rest. Magneto seems to be a whole other issue. He was like the main character in First Class. It's hard to say if I would still be interested in the sequel if he was gone.
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Magneto is involved in almost every major storyline in the x-men comics. It would be hard not to include him.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Green Goblin should DEFINITELY be used in the new reboot series and moreso than Doc Ock, Sandman and Venom, imo.

Sandman and Venom, Raimi just ruined them for me and I don't care in seeing them anytime soon, and Molina did such a fantastic job as Ock, but GG is more important and needs to be done better. Granted, Dafoe was great, but the story of GG was a bit drowned from the origin of Spidey and needs a lot more with as much as Joker received in '89 Batman, The Dark Knight and what Magneto even received during First Class.

 

[Hugebear]

Magneto is involved in almost every major storyline in the x-men comics. It would be hard not to include him.

That’s what I can’t seem to figure out. There must of been many other X-men villains they could of used, yet I don’t see how they could have done the movies with out over using him.

 

[SpideyFan866]

That’s what I can’t seem to figure out. There must of been many other X-men villains they could of used, yet I don’t see how they could have done the movies with out over using him.

There are really only 5 really significant and easy to use villains from X-Men: Magneto, Sebastian Shaw, Apocolypse, Mr. Sinister, and Bolivar Trask.

BONUS: William Striker.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Ehh....would you really say Apocalypse is an easy villain?

 

[craigdbfan]

Apocalypse is anything but easy.

 

[SpideyFan866]

My bad. Apocolypse and Mister Sinister are probably the hardest.

I don't whats harder. Them or the Shi'ar.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I definitely wouldn't call Sinister an easy to use villain. he's usually the guy you find out is behind everything years later, after they've beaten up everybody else.

 

[cryptic name]

The problem with that test is it seemed way too cartoony and light. Not that scary. I liked the final one in the film better.

HOWEVER, with that said - if you make that more menacing, scarier, not as light - it'd be perfect.

I think it's the green - just reminds me of Jim Carrey's The Mask or Goosebumps.

There was nothing scary or menacing about the final movie mask. That test was awesome, would have been so much better.

 

[Peter_Parker123]

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Just use a CFX mask like the imp ones that look very Goblin like!

Bald Jackal

 

[TheWallCrawler]

ok I know that most of people are dissapointed about the lizard being more humanoid and not being more like an animal but I was thinking that this humanoid lizard could come of as really creepy once we see him properly

here's an example, look how "menacing" the joker looked in these promo pics:

when I saw this I wasn't really convinced about the new joker at all. Looking at the comments on this pic really reminds me of the current situation with the lizard

"I think the look works. I was hoping Ledger wasn't going to ham it up so much, though. I thought he would be more chilling..."

was he hammy in the film? NO!

Of course some people weren't convinced with the SDCC footage lizard, the CGI was reaally unfinished, it probably didn't really flatter the design. RIM said that the lizard looked really great and creepy in the russian film expo footage where the CGI was probably almost done, and if there's someone we should believe it's RIM!

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Just use a CFX mask like the imp ones that look very Goblin like!

The actor doesn't have to actually use a mask like that, they can do a better job with make up and they can just pretend in the movie that it's a CFX mask. To be honest, I don't even think the mask has to be explained, Norman is a rich guy who can make a very real looking mask, the audience doesn't care. It's like the masks in mission impossible, not really many people question them, and this isn't even that unrealistic

 

[Naite22]

Green Goblin should DEFINITELY be used in the new reboot series and moreso than Doc Ock, Sandman and Venom, imo.

Sandman and Venom, Raimi just ruined them for me and I don't care in seeing them anytime soon, and Molina did such a fantastic job as Ock, but GG is more important and needs to be done better. Granted, Dafoe was great, but the story of GG was a bit drowned from the origin of Spidey and needs a lot more with as much as Joker received in '89 Batman, The Dark Knight and what Magneto even received during First Class.

Agreed!

Sandman was really boring and poorly executed. The "birth scene" was actually kinda beautiful. The music, really captured the misunderstood character that Flint Marko is. But the sandguy was really boring. I thought "The Mummy", every time he started firing up with the sandstorms and such, which is NOT a good thing. Didn't impress me. I hated how they tried to tie him in with Uncle Bens death. It was kinda lame, how they altered it, I think.

And Venom was so not what he was in the comics! They really ****ed him up. The symbiote story line is the most badass of them all (imo). It was so unbelievably idiotic executed and handled in "3". I really hope this storyline will be given its due credit in the new franchise, cause it's soooo damn cool! I wouldn't mind seeing a whole movie where the enemy is simply Peter, struggling with his darker sides and embracing the stuck-on-him black suit. What a movie! I wanna see Carnage as well!

 

[Oscorp]

I really liked the daughter angle with Sandman to be honest! But somehow it wasn't executed as well as I hoped.

Sandman fits as a pretty sympathetic villain if you ask me, even though it sometimes went a little too far (Sandman crying in the end etc.). Doc Ock should be the cold one.

I agree about him being Uncle Ben's killer as stupid. Same goes for him as a giant, roaring Sandzilla

I didn't like Venom at all, neither the symbiote infected Peter.

 

[Naite22]

I have to admit, I got reeeally tired of Raimi's constant villains-with-a-conscience. I'm glad that they left The Lizard for Webb's reboot. Imagine him in Raimi's film, as the villain in "3". I mean, how many times can we watch scientists get ****ed up by their own damn experiments?

 

[Oscorp]

I have to admit, I got reeeally tired of Raimi's constant villains-with-a-conscience. I'm glad that they left The Lizard for Webb's reboot. Imagine him in Raimi's film, as the villain in "3". I mean, how many times can we watch scientists get ****ed up by their own damn experiments?

While I agree with you (mainly because of Doc Ock), I don't really see the logic here.

Because, what difference does it make that Lizard is now used in the reboot instead? That still makes the third film in a row with a sympathetic villain, just with a different (and hopefully better) director.

This is why I hoped for another villain in the first film in this reboot. Not only because I think Doc Connors - much like Osborn - should be developed through at least one film before he becomes his alter ego (and with developed, I mean more in depth than Raimi's version). But also because it would mean another film in a row that has a very sympathetic villain.

I really hoped for Lizard in this trilogy because he's one of my top favourites. But I prefer the thought of having him end the trilogy. It would make an epic finale. Hopefully, Webb handles him right even though he's in the origin film (the same problem as I had with Green Goblin being in the first film in the past trilogy).

It could end up the other way around though, with Lizard kick starting this reboot in an epic way.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

I don't know if anyone saw it but on the homepage of the site, they have uploaded videos of the spider-man symbol being projected in cities across the country. it's pretty dope, definitely love using the symbol the way they are marketing wise

 

[Naite22]

While I agree with you (mainly because of Doc Ock), I don't really see the logic here.

Because, what difference does it make that Lizard is now used in the reboot instead? That still makes the third film in a row with a sympathetic villain, just with a different (and hopefully better) director.

This is why I hoped for another villain in the first film in this reboot. Not only because I think Doc Connors - much like Osborn - should be developed through at least one film before he becomes his alter ego (and with developed, I mean more in depth than Raimi's version). But also because it would mean another film in a row that has a very sympathetic villain.

I really hoped for Lizard in this trilogy because he's one of my top favourites. But I prefer the thought of having him end the trilogy. It would make an epic finale. Hopefully, Webb handles him right even though he's in the origin film (the same problem as I had with Green Goblin being in the first film in the past trilogy).

It could end up the other way around though, with Lizard kick starting this reboot in an epic way.

That's what I mean. Using him in Raimi's "3", had that been the case, then it would've been to much. But I think it's cool enough that they're using him in Webb's reboot. If they want to ground this franchise a bit more in reality, then I can't wait to see and hear all the scientistbable they come up with, to make the Lizard transformation believable! Especially with a whole team of Swat-Lizards storming at one point!

And I really hope this movie is something like 2:20 hours long!