The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spiderman 2 - User Review Thread! - SPOILERS! - Part 3

[DACrowe]

Again with the batman and robin comparisons.

Well it is kind of the same plot for the villain, except with Jim Carrey's Riddler personality.

Nerdy, creepy, stalker guy (Carrey/Riddler) is obsessed with the hero to an unhealthy degree. He falls into a vat of convenient villain-giving powers (Schwarzenegger Mr. Freeze) and he terrorizes the city. The hero stops him and then the B-villain (Thurman Poison Ivy) springs him from his campy prison cell with cartoonish jailors/psychiatrist to fight the hero. The villain then holds the whole city hostage when he takes over a convenient plot location.

I will say that Electro is visually more interesting than Lizard--which is no fault of the character, they just did a crappy job visualizing the Lizard in 2012--but as a personality he is even worse than Connors. He honestly makes the Church Sandman seem nuanced.

 

[spider-neil]

She figured out that Electro was Max Dillon.

How? What did I miss?

 

[DACrowe]

For people that have seen it. How is the death of Gwen handled?? Is it like in the comics where spidey's web line snaps her neck or does something else happen? Also, what was the crowds reaction to her death? Was it like the shocking like Rachel's death in Dark Knight or just meh/okay?

Well I will say...

Spoiler

The actual death of Rachel Dawes is handled better in the sense that it is sudden and jarring. You think he is saving her, and then boom it is Harvey Dent and Rachel goes boom. So in terms of stunning the audience, I would, unsurprisingly, give the edge to Nolan.

In terms of her actual death on its own though, Gwen Stacy is a much more likable character than Rachel Dawes, so it is shocking to see it happen. It happens in slow motion and he less breaks her neck so much as fails to thwart her fall in time (at least that is my reading of it). People were quiet and one kid asked if she's really dead. I don't know how people personally took it who didn't know it was coming (the people I saw it with all read the comics too), but it is a sad scene. I think the fact that it is so obviously going to happen as even the story has Spidey agreeing to move to London with her pretty much guarantees she is going to die makes it less jarring than the Rachel death, but Stone is a treasure to this franchise, unlike that character.

Hope that helps.

 

[Drz]

How? What did I miss?

Max Dillon had introduced himself to both Spider-Man and Gwen Stacy, the whole world saw what Electro looked like.

 

[spider-neil]

Max Dillon had introduced himself to both Spider-Man and Gwen Stacy, the whole world saw what Electro looked like.

Was there a line of dialogue for this? Can you paraphase it for me please

 

[Drz]

Dialogue about what exactly? Basically:
- Time Squares scene, you see Spider-Man and Max fight, this is filmed and talked on the news.
- Gwen Stacy tries to snoop intell on what could have caused this to happen, but Oscorp has already blocked Max's profiles and the data had been either secured away or completely deleted.
- Which leads both of them to believe Oscorp was somehow behind Max's transformation

I don't know what exactly you're asking from me.

 

[spider-neil]

Dialogue about what exactly? Basically:
- Time Squares scene, you see Spider-Man and Max fight, this is filmed and talked on the news.
- Gwen Stacy tries to snoop intell on what could have caused this to happen, but Oscorp has already blocked Max's profiles and the data had been either secured away or completely deleted.
- Which leads both of them to believe Oscorp was somehow behind Max's transformation

I don't know what exactly you're asking from me.

Electro looks nothing like Max Dillion so I just wanted to know why she was searching for him. The next time I watch the movie I will pay closer attention as to how she makes the connection.

 

[Drz]

They have the same face and Spider-Man even shouts that this is his friend Max. It was all recorded for the world to see. :b

 

[Sergiolb]

who didnt liked the fact that there were 2 villains in this filme?

 

[Carlo Comicus]

I saw the movie wednesday. It's not good, but at the same time it's not bad.

The main issue are the villains. Electro and Rhino are very disappointing. And the first part of the movie (the best part) is ruined from a too fast second part. The movie, also, is too long.

The action scenes are not impressive. I loved the action scenes from the Raimi movies. The problem with Webb is using too much special effects. The final battle with Electro and Spidey is entirely in CGI. The characters look like puppets.

vote 6 for me.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

Oh, I forget. The main actors are really great. Dane DeHaan is the best Harry Osborn. The problem is the script. The main characters are really well characterized, but the villain, except for Harry/Goblin, are really disappointing.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I saw the movie wednesday. It's not good, but at the same time it's not bad.

The main issue are the villains. Electro and Rhino are very disappointing. And the first part of the movie (the best part) is ruined from a too fast second part. The movie, also, is too long.

The action scenes are not impressive. I loved the action scenes from the Raimi movies. The problem with Webb is using too much special effects. The final battle with Electro and Spidey is entirely in CGI. The characters look like puppets.

vote 6 for me.

I'm pretty sure there is actually more practical stunt work in this film than in the Raimi films, so I have no idea where you got that idea from.

 

[Fudgie]

No way did those fight scenes have more stunt work. Spidey and 'ol sparky were CGI fests in that fight scene.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

I'm pretty sure there is actually more practical stunt work in this film than in the Raimi films, so I have no idea where you got that idea from.

From my eyes.

 

[Drz]

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 review!

Marc Webb returns to his Amazing Spider-Man world with a fluid sequel continuing the story, with the Peter Parker (Andrew Garfield) & Gwen Stacy (Emma Stone) relationship going through the ups & downs. What makes Amazing Spider-Man 2 stand out is that we have these two excellent actors with such great, believable sexual chemistry. It expands the concept of superhero movies & gives us a movie that focuses on youth’s passionate love.

Spider-Man’s charm comes not only because of his cool powers, good costume & a great villain gallery, it’s downright the fact that he is such a human being and a real hero. Spider-Man’s spirit is performance with great detail, from within the action sequences through saving human lives to montage scenes of everyday assisting: saving a young child from school bullies, helping people, etc. Spider-Man takes great notice on the people and his surroundings, using his clever quips to encourage people in today’s cruel, narcissistic world where no one truly gives a damn about anyone but themselves. Peter Parker, while abandoned as a child, was still raised in a home of loving & appreciatory parents thanks to Uncle Ben & Aunt May (Sally Field).

This is why the villains of our story, Max Dillon (Jamie Foxx) & Harry Osborn (Dane DeHaan) are his opposites. Max is a lonely person who suffers from it, delusional that fame would bring him joy & lacking any proper social skills. He is a brilliant minded scientist being taken for granted. Harry Osborn is the prodigal son of the great Norman Osborn, but all he’s done since 16 is drink scotch, date models and waste his father’s money because Norman doesn’t even love him. They both suffer loneliness, because the world hasn’t shown them tenderness. There’s a great chemistry between the actors; they’re both miserable, but also creepy. However, I do want to nitpick about a certain villain character: Dr. Kafka (Marton Csokas). Who on earth thought a “German mad scientist” was needed for a Spider-Man movie? Why is there a doctor with such a ridiculous name? Why does it have to be a mad scientist who speaks with an awful German accent & listens loudly to Strauss? C’mon now, this was some awful stain on the movie.

The combat sequences are a spectacle; they’re not choreographed action beats of fists & kicks, but a beautiful acrobatic demonstration of the total imagination that only a character such as Spider-Man can achieve. It’s very pleasurable to look at, with Electro sporting a very kick-ass theme song composed by Hans Zimmer, the Magnificent Six, Pharrell Williams & Johnny Marr. The Point-of-view shots of Spider-Man web-slinging & slow motion demonstrations of his spider-sense tingling danger are truly visual entertainment that does justice to the character.

Marc Webb’s story spins webs of new stories, but the way things ended for the Amazing Spider-Man 2, I am more keenly interested in the announced spin-off movie the Sinister Six than I am for Spider-Man 3.

 

[Perry9]

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 review!

Great review!t: Very nicely put.

 

[AnneFan]

For people that have seen it. How is the death of Gwen handled?? Is it like in the comics where spidey's web line snaps her neck or does something else happen? Also, what was the crowds reaction to her death? Was it like the shocking like Rachel's death in Dark Knight or just meh/okay?

TDK is my favourite Batman film, but I thought TASM2 blew Rachel's death out of the water, where I felt practically nothing.

 

[grieven]

TDK is my favourite Batman film, but I thought TASM2 blew Rachel's death out of the water, where I felt practically nothing.

It's an oversimplification, but it seems to me the general sentiment about the directors is that Webb's strength is the romance and relationship aspect of Peter/Spidey, which emcompasses Gwen's fate, but that he's weak in regards to the characterization of his villains... Raimi is a master of horror and his strength might be the villains, but less the viewers' emotional investment in the hero characters, and Nolan is a master of gritty style and tone. I agree about the Rachel death, I hardly felt a thing about it. But Webb has played with my emotional strings in his films.

 

[Perry9]

It's an oversimplification, but it seems to me the general sentiment about the directors is that Webb's strength is the romance and relationship aspect of Peter/Spidey, which emcompasses Gwen's fate, but that he's weak in regards to the characterization of his villains... Raimi is a master of horror and his strength might be the villains, but less the viewers' emotional investment in the hero characters, and Nolan is a master of gritty style and tone. I agree about the Rachel death, I hardly felt a thing about it. But Webb has played with my emotional strings in his films.

I still think that Webb has been extremely unlucky in terms of the villains. Raimi got to use all the A list villains and Webb is stuck with the B and C list ones and struggles to give them a personality. I wonder whether Harry is going to be the one and final GG or Norman will become the ultimate GG in the third installment.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

"Webb is stuck with the B and C list ones"


Goblin is a class A villain, and he failed on that.

 

[Perry9]

"Webb is stuck with the B and C list ones"


Goblin is a class A villain, and he failed on that.

We still don't know if Harry is going to be the Spider-man's arch nemesis that we all know, or if Norman is going to be that arch nemesis. It's kind of a weird situation right now, so i will reserve my judgement until i see this film.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

IMO it doesn't even matter if Norman is a completely insane Goblin in ASM3. They already made Harry evil, and the first Goblin. The story is already ruined for this franchise.

 

[SamualDude]

Just got back from seeing it. I loved it, Harry was a great Goblin. His transformation into the Goblin was brutal to watch and he was incredibly menacing.

I really liked Electro as a villain, While he might not have the most impressive backstory they did a very good job with the character and had some of the best battles that Spidey has had on film.

All of the main characters were well-acted and were definitely human. The score was really good.

Gwen's death was done incredibly well. I felt my heart racing throughout the battle with Harry and the battle before with Electro as well. I loved TDK but I felt no attachment to Rachel Dawes at all and while I understand the impact of her death on Batman, I never really cared while Gwen's death was emotionally moving as well as the way Peter came back to being Spider-Man. While they didn't show him grieving for too long in the movie (Even though he grieved for 5 months) I still feel that he will most likely still be grieving in the next one and that can be a very good arc for the Character.

I give the movie a 9.5 out of 10. Definetly better than the first movie by a long distance and as for whether it is better than Spider-Man 2, I'm unsure as of yet. I'll need to watch it again in a few months and see how I feel but it is very close as to deciding personally which is better.

(PS. Sorry I'm not a professional reviewer or anything, I just wanted to give my thoughts)

 

[grieven]

Just got back from seeing it. I loved it, Harry was a great Goblin. His transformation into the Goblin was brutal to watch and he was incredibly menacing.

I really liked Electro as a villain, While he might not have the most impressive backstory they did a very good job with the character and had some of the best battles that Spidey has had on film.

All of the main characters were well-acted and were definitely human. The score was really good.

Gwen's death was done incredibly well. I felt my heart racing throughout the battle with Harry and the battle before with Electro as well. I loved TDK but I felt no attachment to Rachel Dawes at all and while I understand the impact of her death on Batman, I never really cared while Gwen's death was emotionally moving as well as the way Peter came back to being Spider-Man. While they didn't show him grieving for too long in the movie (Even though he grieved for 5 months) I still feel that he will most likely still be grieving in the next one and that can be a very good arc for the Character.

I give the movie a 9.5 out of 10. Definetly better than the first movie by a long distance and as for whether it is better than Spider-Man 2, I'm unsure as of yet. I'll need to watch it again in a few months and see how I feel but it is very close as to deciding personally which is better.

(PS. Sorry I'm not a professional reviewer or anything, I just wanted to give my thoughts)

Sound great, thanks for sharing and really glad you loved it! btw, none of us are professional reviewers here.

And hey, go see it a few more times in the theaters. Judging by some of the posts in the boxoffice thread, it needs it!

 

[SamualDude]

Also! one more thing before I forget! They played the 60s theme quite a bit in the movie as a wee easter egg. It was Peter's ringtone which I felt was a really cool touch.