The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spiderman 2 - User Review Thread! - SPOILERS! - Part 3

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Agreed. That is the consensus with many reviews, too.

I really like your review btw :up:

Cheers, was more just a summary of views of things that stood out to me rather than a full blown review but glad you liked it!:woot:
 
FINALY!
I found the time to write my ambitious review of ”The Amazing Spider-Man 2”. I know it's a long one, but hope you’ll wanna read it (cause I’d be lying if I said it was something I just threw together, quickly)…

MY INTRO (I FEEL IT’S NEEDED):

I have to remind my self (all_the_time) that you guys in the US aren’t getting this film until May 2’nd. Another 10 days to go. It feels pretty weird to me, actually. Why? Glad you asked. – Because I my self just finished watching the movie for the third time the other night. It’s like Christmas came and went in a flash, ya know. But ”Christmas” hasn’t even come to you guys yet. It really is weird to think about, in the aftermath of things here in Europe.

I had this feeling of being a little kid, eagerly awaiting Christmas morning to come around, after a brutal 25 days of waiting for it. The feeling of having just opened my presents, getting all of those toys I wished for. Yet, right after all the unwrapping was done and the ”insanity” had left my body, I found my self sitting there in the middle of the floor with shredded paper all around me. I was honestly too tired to play with those toys - I was worn out! I’m sure some of you can remember that feeling. That’s how it felf for me, right after the first viewing of this film. I was too ”worn out” to write a review at that point. Truthfully, I haven’t felt prepared to write a review until now. My head hasn’t been prepped for it, until tonight. Actually, this is a review that has been two days in the making. Anyway, that’s the best I can explain it. You see, the first viewing was the galla-opening on the 16’th (which by the way was an amazing event! I got so many videos and pictures of the whole thing). Second time watching it was the very next day. The other night was my third viewing. I saw it with my older brother. He shed a tear near the end. I’m being absolutely serious here. So did I.

I know this is the Spoiler-thread. But I really don’t wish to spoil the film. I think it’s a shame. You think you’ve seen it all? Far from it. And I ain’t necessarily talking action here either. Just, trust me. I’ll try to write it in such a way that you won’t be spoiled about the movie - as a whole. Yet still I want you to get a true sense and understanding about just how this movie comes off in all departments. I’ll try to write it down different and exciting for you guys, instead of the typical critics writtens. I will however loosely be talking about some few lines in the film, and some smaller intimate scenes that occurs (but out of context still). It’s the sort of stuff that sticks with ME days and days after seeing it. These are things giving the movie heart and soul (something sorely missing in say, Man of Steel). But know that I will not be spoiling plot and twists for you guys. I will simply talk a bit about certain smaller scenes between characters. And I stress characters.

Know this. Could I give you fellow hypsters the movie right now - I would. I want you all to see it as quick as possible. I know you’re in agony. I know the feeling, cause the shoe is usually on the other foot here. I’m the one who’s most of the time in agony about having to wait for a film to premiere, overseas. But do read on, if you wish to read a caring review from someone who isn’t a proffesional critic. I’m just someone who wishes to comfort you, in the midst of all the downer stuff you read from a bunch of critics. I wanna do this review justice. I wanna do it wholeheartedly and with love - BUT in consistense with the truth! I’m writing this from the bottom of my heart. And even though opinions do vary to degrees, my goal here is to write something real and truthful, as good as I possibly can. So that when you see the film for your selves, you won’t think that I was just someone letting out bull. You won’t think that I was someone who never put any serious thought in to it. You’ll wanna think that I was pretty dead on right about the stuff I wrote, and that I put some serious effort in to it. Again. I know opinions do vary to degrees and that you can’t please every one. But this is what I’m HOPING to accomplish with this review of mine. Cause truthfully, I wanna be respected, and not looked down on for writing a bogus review, being so far off and not at all in line with the truth about this picture. The last thing I wanna do, is to kit my self. So remind your selves here - This is important for me to get out as right as possible.


THE OPENING:

This film opens up over two parts, actually. Call it a ”two-parter”, if you will. It doesn’t waste time on a Spiderman opening credit sequence, like in Raimi’s films, or even something as short as what is seen in Webb’s first film. It makes every bit of effort to fill those 2:22 hours worth of running time with actual footage/film. Right from the split second opening of the Sony/Tri-Star/MARVEL logos, Zimmers score comes in to play in a slow, yet still intensifying manner. We fade up inside of a mechanical something, tick-tocking, as the camera zooms out of it revealing it to be a wrist-watch. It’s Richard Parker, looking at it knowing time is short. I won’t say any more about that. Just that it gets intense, and that this first part of the opening act ends big and loud, signing out with a big ”BOOM” shutting down the screen, going black. A few seconds of silence goes by. Now we open up to the 2’nd energetic part of this opening-galore. The Spidey symbol fills the screen (NO title-card is ever seen. Just the symbol). Zimmers amazingly badass spidey theme blasts through the theater speakers, instantly starting off loud, hot & heavy. Spidey is in free-fall, and I’ll say no more about that. I do however want to give you guys some comfort right here though. I know that some critics obviously felt that this transisiton in tone was pretty rapid and the style of tone between the two set-openings feels a bit off. I never ever felt this way. I thought it worked so damn good. I was smiling from ear to ear, while shoving popcorn in my mouth. The feel of these two openings are separate things, but still works great as a whole. You get where it all started, and you get where we find our selves in the second part. You get the more ”lightweight feel” of the second opening sequence, and it makes perfect sense for it to be the way that it is. The things happening on screen, in it self, is not cheesy. It’s stylished and a joy to watch. However, over-the-top irritating villain dialect/presence and some lines from a pre-Rhino, could come off as a tad too much ”cheese”, for some. But there really is something to be said about difference in taste. I’ll elaborate on villain characteristics later.

WHAT FOLLOWS:

After an overall great opening in both departments, things winds down for a short bit, to make room for our main characters to charm us, and for things to breath (smart move). But seriously, fellas. I don’t want to go through this movie, step by step, talking about the story in detail and so on. I just wanna comfort you, saying that the story IS indeed there - And it’s a good one! (I don’t care what the critics say). The execution of it all is also great (at least 85-90% or something of the whole way). The underlying themes at play are quite powerful, important, and, well, ”Operatic” (Webb spoke the truth here). And yes, I did find it reaching those places of ”epicness”. And the word ”epic” is definitely thrown around all too loosely in todays world of movies. The epic feel however, doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s found within the big action sequences, only. Epicness can, in a weird way be present in the pure ”feel” of certain smaller sequences as well. Like Harvey/Rachel/Bruce talking around the dining table in the restaurant during TDK (you should know what I mean here). Also, there’s major character developments within Amazing-2. In terms of villain plots, it’s not the most sophisticated or original. But it works and it’s effective. Why? The reasons are several (Harry, for me, being the most prominent in that department. More on that later) But mainly, it’s simply because you get the villains. You get their motivations. It’s simple and direct. There are no blurry lines here, ones the villains go down that dark path. It’s the same as with Star Wars. Light or Dark. And in Amazing-2 you understand completely why. And even though their plots ain’t nothing new or especially creative, I couldn’t care less. And it doesn’t have to be more than it is anyways. I ain’t saying this to kit my self (already stated this as being the last thing I want to do!) No. I’m saying this because it’s the truth. It works. It wouldn’t have made this movie better if the villain plots were more twisted than they are. No need for it. Cause what this film is all about, is what the characters are feeling, and all about their relations and bonds between one another, from left to right. Everything has become exstremely clear for me after my third viewing. And guys. By no_means is this a messy Spider-Man 3 film. Not in script and not on film. It may look that way, but don’t worry. Everything flows pretty damn good almost the whole way through. It’s cohesive for the absolute biggest portions, and Webb tells his story with care. There’s a lot going on in many aspects. The script may be ”busy”. But it’s busy in a good way. I think those critics stating otherwise should go bury a bone, really. I’m not seeing a problem there. Nothing it needs to be trashed for. This is still solid storytelling.

I wish for you guys to see it all with your own eyes. And there’s a lot to be seen. Nothing will really hit home for you before this movie is executed in front of your eyes, from begining to end. And it might not even be for the reasons you’ve build up in your minds already. Chew on that.

THE CHARACTERS & THE ACTORS PLAYING THEM:

What I do wanna elaborate on, is stuff like the characters and the actors. And I wanna start with the smallest of characters and than go from there.

Paul Giamatti/ Aleksei aka. Rhino:
Seriously. There really isn’t much to his character. He’s definitely just a very short introduction. Personally, I found him too over the top. I found him quite irritating. But he does feel & and act like a stupid Rhino, so there is that. But he’s such a small player in this film, that they could easily not have included him. A little rewrite to the script and this would’ve been possible. They didn’t even need him for the end, to get this very important and prominent message across (another epic factor that follows). This whole thing could’ve been done without the appearence of Rhino all together, for sure. But hey, that’s just ME. Others might really dig his short guest appearence ☺

Felicity Jones/ Felicia Hardy:
Her appearances are short, but they are good enough to give a mention, I think. She’s Harry’s assistant, and is just about the only person in his staff who seems to give a **** about him. I didn’t know her as an actress before this, but I liked her. If she were to become Black Cat in a later installment, I think she could do good.

Sally Field/ Aunt May:
She’s just great. What a great May. She plays the part with such warmth. She loves Peter so damn much, and means to protect him in every way possible. And she’s far from dumb. There are certain scenes in this film that implies she already knows Peter is Spider-Man. It comes across pretty damn strong at one point. He’s all she’s got. Her and Andrew shares a scene together during the final half of the film, where she breaks down in front of Peter. Tears emerges in the corners of her eyes. She’s shaking all over, sitting on the edge of Peters bed, not wanting to tell him what she ”knows”, despite Peter begging her to tell him the truth. But she refuses to have him feel even more abandoned. Peter then sits down on his knees in front of May (emotions are seriously running high here). Peter gently holds his hands up gracing her cheeks, comforting her as he says: ”Aunt May. I’m your boy. And I love you so very much. YOU, are more than enough for me… You’re more than enough”. He goes on to gently leaning his forhead towards hers, while whispering to her that it’s ”ok”. He continues: ”Aunt May. It’s ok”. He’s implying that she too has the right to be sad and to feel the need of comfort. It’s so wonderful. You have to see this cohesively with the rest of the movie to understand it. But it does come off pretty powerful. And It completely summons up Sally Fields role and what she’s all about.

Jamie Foxx/ Max Dillon aka. Electro:
I’ll get the ”weak” aspects out of the way, so I can tell you about the good things, cause it is there. The weak part is definitely his beginings as Max (in more than one scene). It kinda sucks to mention Jim Carreys role in Batman Forever. But... yeah, Batman Forever. I also got a little vibe of Richard Pryors Gus Gorman character from Superman 3, in a scene or two. And I’m only talking about his Max character here, people. Well actually, also his musical theme. I do feel that Foxx goes overboard in certain aspects. In some places (mostly just two of them), it simply went a bit too much down the Schuemacher road, for me. One case taking place in his apartment. Everything from his looks to him chatting with him self, and to that damn theme of his (lol). Another case is when Max imagines (thank God for that though) that he goes off on a certain someone, because he makes fun of Spiderman. These elements just felt a tad too much out of sync with the rest of the film. But guys, it’s still short. And now I can actually somewhat laugh about it. But personally though, I would’ve toned down the goofiness of his character a bit. For some, it might work better than for others. But I do think most will feel it as being a tad too much.

But he’s not a complete miss either! While Max Dillon is definitely a Batman Foreverish, corny looking pre-villain character (lol), Foxx does indeed bring something good to the table about him. Max does work in certain aspects. Like when Gwen meets him in the elevator in the begining. That whole conversation they have is good, and Foxx is much more toned down in that sequence (thus, more real). He becomes more believable. A great deliverance from him is when Gwen comes running towards the elevator doors that are closing. Max stops them, so she can get in. She says: ”Thank You very much. Most people wouldn’t take the time to notice”. And Max replies in a very character-defined and almost offended manner: ”Yeah, well. Most people don’t notice other people”. Another scene is when Max is ordered to stay back at work on his birthday, and goes up to fix the problem that ultimately leads to his electrifying destiny. There, he quietly sings him self a birthday song right as he’s about to fix ”the problem”. He even knows it’s dangerous. He’s not an idiot in that regard. I thought scenes like these were great, and he becomes real in my eyes during parts like those. That’s why the composition of his Max Dillon scenes can feel sorta frustrating.

Here’s a little side-note about him: Maybe it’s just me. But during my third viewing, something happened in my eyes/mind regarding Max. I don’t know if it’s there, or if I just want it to be there. But listen. As overly corny as he first appeared to me, I started to suddenly see him as a very sad and truly lonely, on-the-verge-of-insanity type of character through all of that goofiness. As in, long before the first rage even ensues. All he needed was a push. A push he’s bound to get later on of course. But in some weird twisted way, even if he had never turned in to a freak-accident, this lonely man could quite possibly still had been the type of guy going over the edge, eventually. The sort of man that could snap, grapping a kitchen knife & stap you in your sleep for not wanting to be his friend. He didn’t need to go all Electro for that. I don’t know, there’s just something about him. And when looking at him in that light, he does become kinda freaky. So, as laughable as he may appear, there is something oddly artistic about his portrayal. I had to see the movie three times, to catch on to that.

As Electo, he mostly works. And when he’s brought back to Oscorp for further testings and examinations, he also has a VERY cool scene, with some dialog that made me freak out over him. He suddenly became pretty damn creepy. BAD_ASS! And the scene when Harry comes to him. Yup. It’s spot on! And the two collides with one another in the best possible way.

Emma Stone/ Gwen Stacey:
There should be no surprise here. She’s amazing. Any man could easily fall in love with this one. She’s funny, charming, beautiful, intelligent & she’s her own woman in this one. She’s strong in that regard. Her speech from graduation day says it all. That about sums her up.

Andrew Garfield/ Peter Parker aka. Spiderman:
Again. There really isn’t any huge surprise here. Cause quite frankly, this guy nails it. And he nails it hard! He’s got the whole package. Such a strong on-screen presence. Such charisma & charm. He seems so natural and carries with him a pretty unique sense of authenticity in every aspect of his portrayal. He’s just so damn likeable, it’s almost ”disgusting”.

Regarding his Peter Parker in the sequel, he definitely comes off as being more confident. Especially in the begining, where he’s basically on a roll. He thinks he can have it all. I really liked how they portrayed all of that through his character. Peter Parker is a bit more of a man in this one. He sorta ”steps it up”. For example, you feel this in a scene like the previous mentioned with Aunt May, where all of the sudden he’s the one comforting her. He also helps pay their ways with the freelancing he does for J. Jonah (and YES. The Daily Bugle chief & editor does get a mention in this film, and even exchanges mail with Peter at one point. That’s a funny one!). Peters experiences from the first film is clearly felt within this sequel. Peter still has his moments of some form of arkwardness. Mostly in early scenes with Gwen (but out of his love for her, and that’s great). But I wouldn’t exactly call this Peter a shy, hidden-in-the-shadows kind of Peter. He’s, like I mentioned, ”on a roll”. It’s all good though, and makes sense.

His Spiderman. This can be summed up pretty quickly. He nails it! Spiderman has never been more spiderman before. He’s a jokster & a wise-guy. And he’s incredibly good at it. It’s all so crisp and cool to watch! You’ll see it for your selves soon enough.

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Dane Dehaan/ Harry Osborn aka. Goblin:
There’s actually a reason why I saved this dude for last. Cause quite frankly, he surprised the heck out of me! I knew he was a good actor, and I really liked him in Chronicle and so on. But this. This here is multi-layered in many ways. I saw him as being the ultimate and truly dangerous threat against both Peter and Spiderman. The emotional connection made this the reason why. I thought he outshined mr. all-mighty Oscar-winner Jamie Foxx.

When we meet Harry in this film, he immediately comes off as a very important player. The one scene he shares with Norman Osborn when he is first introduced in this film is both a dark, cold & mystifying one. Those are the three words I can best choose to describe it. It’s a very cold, creppy sequence between a son and his father, distanced by 8 years of separation (Chris Cooper is freaky in this scene as well!). I think this whole sequence is masterfully done. It threw shivers down my spine at one point. It sets a very unnerving tone for both the characters.

When Harry first meets Peter in this film, it’s one of my most favorable out of the whole damn picture! I really wanted to stress that in this review. The movie is full of great sequences all over the board. But this one here had my body rapidly filled with warmth, from one second to the next. I smiled even BIGGER than I did during all of the cute and loving scenes between Andrew and Emma (and mind you - that’s saying a whole_damn_lot). This sequence is so incredibly charming, uplifting and PERFECTLY depicts the great, unique, old-time friendship between Peter & Harry, whom hasn’t seen each other for 8 years when they are re-introduced in this one. Within a matter of two minutes, you’re right there and all caught up with them, and you truly feel why they’re so close. It’s a scene perfectly staged. It starts off as a downer, where both characters are brooding/serious and neither of them obviously knows how to re-connect to one another without having it feel akward, given the circumstances. That’s how it starts out. You’ll notice how all of that brilliantly changes in the scene as it moves forward. How the transition of these two young adults with a massive gap between them, and both with massive responsibilites upon their shoulders, goes from that distant feeling and then to them totally turning back time, meeting each other in the middle as innocent and best childhood-buddies. Everything from the dialog spoken, to how their characteristics slowly changes around one another, is just to die for! Not to mention how the music slowly changes and builds it self up, completely lifting up the whole damn scenario. Is it Webbs directing, or Zimmers score? I’ll just say both. That, plus the work from two incredibly gifted young actors blending so well together! It works in the best possible way, and I guarantee you’ll feel that one too. It’s the sequence hinted at from the trailers. The one where Harry stands on the top of the stairway and Peter is waiting for him downstairs. The subtle change here being the fact that in the trailers both of them have a smile on their face when they speak out each others names. But that is NOT how it is in the actual film. Here it starts off moody and distant between the two (and it works much better that way! You’ll see and feel why) I so wanna spoil it all in detail for you guys, but I won’t. Just remember how I, Superhero-hype poster Naite22, stressed this scene for you. Look out for it. It’s so damn charming and just great, great, great ☺

That was a bit of a side-track, I know. But within that scene alone, it showcases a lot of Harry’s sides and ”personality-swings”, so to speak. And there’s more to come of that. Cause it does indeed end dark for this dude. His scenes are without the slightest hesitation the most dark out of the whole bunch. And it’s forthshadowing in his scene with Norman. And I ain’t lying when I say that his ”turn-scene” to a certain goblin is downright horror-freaky! The music playing there is also frightening as hell. One mother gently put her hands up in front of her kids eyes during this sequence, when I saw it at the galla-opening. His goblin appearance may be rather short, but it works brilliantly. And his time as the goblin is scary. Dehaan is truly frightening in the role. Again, I think he completely outshines Foxx’s Electro in this regard. Harry is the emotional and weighty conflict to Peter. He’s the real menacing threat in my eyes. The one that can truly **** him up from inside out.

Look out for a scene with Harry and Gwen in an elevator as well. Also a scene with him and Peter talking in the Oscorp building, where Harry asks a request from Peter. Here, young Dehaan manages to both showcase his anger/frustration, while at one point almost converting back in to a frigthened desperate little boy. It’s really good, and also kind of heartbreaking. Dehaan also shares a scene with Spiderman, and it’s so well depicted why Harry gets frustrated. But all that alchohol couldn’t possibly make him think any clearer about things though. Let’s just put it that way.

All in all, Dane Dehaan is amazingly intense, layered and dynamic as young Harry Osborn. He comes off as a brilliant young man with a hint of playboy in him. He’s edgy, yet still gives off a good sense of gentleness to his character as well. But you definitely feel his anger and frightening persona, lurking right around the corners (better yet. You get exactly why). It’s quite spectacular to watch. His and Garfields chemistry works just as truthful and strongly as the Peter/Gwen aspect, in it’s own awesome way. Intense all over the board. I’d say they’re equally tallented, him and Andrew.

THE ACTION:
Even though this was one of the least of my worries, I must of course mention the action as well. It’s there in spades, and it’s just awesome! Some critics mention the cartooney feel. I say, give it a rest! It’s Spiderman, for Petes sake (hehe. ”Petes sake”. Get it). It looks so damn awesome, and it has never looked more real. The day time swinging is pure eye-candy. Couldn’t be happier about it. The end fight with Electro does come of as sorta ”game-ish”, but I DON’T mean this in a bad way! It’s the settings it happens in. And it don’t matter. ”Gamish” is not the same as bad looking here. Not at_all! So don’t get that mixed up. It looks impressive and badass. You’ll understand when you see it. Sevenwebhead mentioned in his review that the end fight with Electro easily beats the train-battle sequence from Raimi’s SM2. This is a point I do not agree on though. The train battle, for me, still takes the cake. It’s the things you see during that fight that still has me amazed to this day. Especially for its time! But this could also be a matter of taste. In the end the actual final battle with Electro is very cool, non the less. Yet it’s mostly the swinging and the creative ways we see spidey use his webs in this one that has me completely floored! Nothing prior to this has been so exstremely cool looking! Also, during the time-square battle (which I found more intense than the final one between Spidey and Electro) we get such an epic sense of Spideys powers. How damn quick he is and how clever he is in his ways of taking on a villain.

All in all, the action kicks ass, and it’s a joy to see unfold on the big screen - and in 3D! Yes, it does add something to the experience.

THE MUSIC:
Let’s just give it a mention. Hans Zimmer kills it! The soundtrack does indeed lift this film up. It creates for massive epic effect in more than one case (but it’s generally badass/awesome the whole way though). I ain’t lying here. Never before have I experienced a film where music and visuals went up in to such a higher form of being ”as_one”. That’s how it feels. The visuals and music feels truly combined, in several sequences. They melt together in a way I simply can not recollect to ever have experienced before. Hans Zimmer’s forging of his ”Magnificent Six” is a thing to behold. It’s the most unique superhero-movie soundtrack I’ve ever heard. I also bought the album (even though I didn’t plan on that). It feels truly ambitious. Extremely good!

VERDICT:
This film ain’t perfect. It does have some places where the movie feels just a tad not so cohesive in what it wishes to represent, regarding its style that is (but it’s mainly in the films first 30 minutes, and like I said, only in some instances). My biggest gripe is the Shuemacher feel to Max Dillon, in more than one case. That being said, it’s short. The transitions from light to dark, I don’t think is a problem at all, for the most part. I mean that. Especially the ting about the transition of the opening of the film. I Don’t get it. I loved it! Overall, almost nothing took me out of the movie (and certainly nothing could ruin it in the end, anyways). And again, these are also transitions during the first 30 minutes, top.

During the climax of this film, I personally would’ve toned down some of the ”over-excitement” seen and heard from Gwen Stacey, during the intense showdown, where I really see nothing to be ”over-charged” & ”optimistic” about. She should’ve gone in to hiding from all the chaos around her in the city, and simply stayed_put! There’s also a line or two from spidey during his end battle with Electro I could’ve gone without (at least one of them). We’re simply at a place in the movie now where humor shouldn’t have been part of it, in any way. But hey, it is what it is. This thing might not even be a problem for others, so there is that.

Overall, this film sparkles with star chemistry from left to right. Every one brings their A-game! Of course, also Jamie Foxx as Electro. Max Dillon had his small good moments, but should’ve been toned down in the humor department. No need for him to be so overexposed in that regard. It felt like and unnecessary ”hiccup” that didn’t fall in line with the rest of the films feel/style (despite the humor from spiderman, still working great within the context!)

The story in the sequel here is bigger. It both expands & definitely feels much grander than the first film. Questions are answered - and they’re good. By the way! You also get a new sense of just how Spidermans biology works, and I loved that! Also, the spidey universe has never looked better or more promising. Like 90% of the way, this film progresses well and is executed in a very good manner. There isn’t a dull moment in sight either. It’s all mostly captivating in one way or another. Whether it be funny, charming, thrilling, dramatic, intense or serious. It works for the largest portion across the whole thing. Seriously guys, I ain’t no proffesional. But I truthfully can’t see what the critics are complaining such about here. This film moves forward in a good & nice way, it really does. Marc Webb tells his story with love and more than enough care. This is by no means a messy thing, like Man of Steel or (God forbid) Spiderman 3! The script is bussy, but it’s a good one! And it still manages to dwell in it’s important sequences. I didn’t feel it to be too crowded either (and I was worried about that). For every time seeing this film, I dig it even more. Even with those flaws mentioned within it, I’m almost on the verge of loving it now. The feelings and the themes involved, adding to that the amazing acting and an incredible soundtrack, has this one sticking with me in a pretty powerful way. I can’t really seem to get it out of my head, these days. And I did get goosebumps many times. Tears were indeed spilled. And it held my attention for the full 2:22 hours, all three times.

I’d like to ”punch out” right now, by saying that I certainly do not feel this movie is only worth a 72% on rotten. I feel pretty confident in saying that. And I feel sorry for you guys, whom are eagerly awaiting to see this movie, that you even have to look at that ****. Cause quite frankly, I think this one deserves something between 80-83%, when all is said and done. ”The Amazing Spiderman 2” is still a winner in my book. And I can’t wait for you guys in the US to see it.

RATING: A STRONG 8 out of 10
 
That's a lot of review, lol. I read the other day how worried you were about the reviews, glad you liked it.
 
Naitie.... I think that might just be the longest review I've ever seen. Ever.

Woah.
 
That's a lot of review, lol. I read the other day how worried you were about the reviews, glad you liked it.

Naitie.... I think that might just be the longest review I've ever seen. Ever.

Woah.

I know, I know. But it's something adding a bit more to it, than your typical critics review about the film :yay: I really put my heart in to it, also truly to comfort you all as good as I can. If you have a couple of 100 years, give it a read at one point :cwink:
 
It's personal taste but performances and character will always trump plot and pacing it's why I stuck with Lost till the end and why I like ASM2 more than Winter Solider even though WS is clearly better paced with a stronger narrative.

There's no real reason as to why it couldn't have both though.
 
Wow, Naite. What a very beautifully written review. It was a pleasure to read that and yes, I read the whole thing. Awesome job, man :up:
 
Can I also add that the relationship and chemistry between Gwen and Peter is the best in superhero cinematic history and I include Reeve and Kidder.

Same here! If I had to pick what the best romantic relationships in a comic book film are, i'd probably say:

- Peter & Gwen (Andrew Garfield & Emma Stone)
- Tony Stark & Pepper Potts (Robert Downey Jr & Gwyneth Paltrow)
- Superman/Clark Kent & Lois Lane (Christopher Reeve & Margot Kidder)
- Captain America/Steve Rogers & Peggy Carter (Chris Evans & Hayley Atwell)

That's it really... I can't really think of any other memorable comic book film romances (maybe Michael Keaton & Kim Bassinger but she was a tad annoying at times and Michael Keaton & Michelle Pfeiffer were brilliant, but that wasn't really a romantic relationship per se).

There's loads of memorable romances in the comics, but not really in film. I didn't buy:

- Tobey Maquire & Kirsten Dunst
- Chris Hemsworth & Natalie Portman
- James Marsden & Famke Janssen
- Hugh Jackman & Famke Janssen
- Hugh Jackman & Lynn Collins (Kayla Silverfox)
- Hugh Jackman & Tao Okamoto (I will admit that Mariko is underrated and their relationship was pretty good, but I wouldn't say it was 'memorable')
- Anna Pacquin & Shawn Ashmore
- Shawn Ashmore & Ellen Page (I doubt I'll like their relationship in Days of Future Past too because I didn't in X-Men 3)
- James McAvoy & Rose Byrne (Moira MacTaggert)
- Jennifer Lawrence & Nicholas Hoult
- Eric Bana & Jennifer Connelly
- Edward Norton & Liv Tyler
- Ioan Gruffudd & Jessica Alba
- Ben Affleck & Jennifer Garner
- Nicholas Cage & Eva Mendes
- Val Kilmer & Nicole Kidman
- Christian Bale & Katie Holmes or Maggie Gyllenhaal
- Christian Bale & Anne Hathaway (It was good, but a little rushed and the film had too much going on to develop it.)
- Ryan Reynolds & Blake Lively
- Henry Cavill & Amy Adams (yet)
 
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Naite22

I fully agree with your review. My only real problem with the film is a few scenes with Max. Other than that, I thought it was great. I didn't care that much for SM2, and this film does what that film did for others.
 
I agree with your choices speno94

even tho iron man movies are my fave I think emma and andrew have the best chemistry out there. if they weren't cast as peter and gwen I don't think I would enjoy TASM series because their chemistry is what makes these movies

I am still dissapointed how terrible were hemsworth and portman together because their relationship also plays a huge role. They just never clicked
 
Just watched this.

I have to admit i enjoyed the movie, even though there are so many problems with it. It´s enjoyable, but very far from great.

The best thing about the movie was Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone. Two great actor that pull off two great performances. It´s easy to care about the characters when you have such talented actors portraying them. Even though i think Andrew has aged quite a bit since the last movie and looks now too old to be playing Peter Parker.

The movie is full of romantic scenes. Some of them are good, some of them are boring. Overall, i think there´s too much whining between them, wich after a while becomes a little repetitive.

The plot and story are very weak. It seems Sony isn´t very interested in innovating and delivering something fresh and original. Everything is ultra predictable and gave me the feeling that i had already watched that movie before. Both story and character development are rushed in order to leave time for the tiresome visual spectacle.

The villains are ok, but everything about them is rushed and sometimes they come across as lame frustrated guys with poor motivations.

Even the action is nothing to write home about. It has a couple of good moments and i do like some of the new camera angles they used, but sometimes the CGI became too obvious and the slow motion was badly used.

The amazing Spider-Man 2 is a movie with a good sense of humor. But sometimes i got the feeling they were trying just way too hard to be funny all the time, and often it didn´t work. It seems like nothing in this movie is well balanced.

The only thing i really loved about this was Gwen´s death. It was really well done. Very emotional moment.

This movie feels very different from the previous. It feels more like a studio movie. Less artistic, more commercial. I wonder how much creative control the director had...

Verdict: More of the same with a few good moments sprinkled here and there. I´m not so sure i´m gonna pay to watch The Amazing Spider-Man 3. Tickets are very expensive and i don´t feel like giving money to people who don´t even make an effort to create something special, even though they have the tools to do it.

6/10
 
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Sally Field/ Aunt May:
She’s just great. What a great May. She plays the part with such warmth. She loves Peter so damn much, and means to protect him in every way possible. And she’s far from dumb. There are certain scenes in this film that implies she already knows Peter is Spider-Man. It comes across pretty damn strong at one point. He’s all she’s got. Her and Andrew shares a scene together during the final half of the film, where she breaks down in front of Peter. Tears emerges in the corners of her eyes. She’s shaking all over, sitting on the edge of Peters bed, not wanting to tell him what she ”knows”, despite Peter begging her to tell him the truth. But she refuses to have him feel even more abandoned. Peter then sits down on his knees in front of May (emotions are seriously running high here). Peter gently holds his hands up gracing her cheeks, comforting her as he says: ”Aunt May. I’m your boy. And I love you so very much. YOU, are more than enough for me… You’re more than enough”. He goes on to gently leaning his forhead towards hers, while whispering to her that it’s ”ok”. He continues: ”Aunt May. It’s ok”. He’s implying that she too has the right to be sad and to feel the need of comfort. It’s so wonderful. You have to see this cohesively with the rest of the movie to understand it. But it does come off pretty powerful. And It completely summons up Sally Fields role and what she’s all about.

@Naite22,

More than the climatic moment between Gwen and Peter in the climax, this was the moment that cemented my love for Marc Webb's Spider-Man universe.

This scene absolutely floored me. It's the one scene I will watch repeatedly when I revisit this film in the future on home video. To me, it's one of two of "THE SCENE" that captures the essence of alot of the emotion and character arc for Peter. You described it beautifully. Goodness, just thinking about it, I get teary eyed.

You all will understand very soon about this scene.
 
I know, I know. But it's something adding a bit more to it, than your typical critics review about the film :yay: I really put my heart in to it, also truly to comfort you all as good as I can. If you have a couple of 100 years, give it a read at one point :cwink:

I suppsose sometimes more is more.

I'll be reading it tonight. :)
 
If I had to pick what the best romantic relationships in a comic book film are, i'd probably say:

- Peter & Gwen (Andrew Garfield & Emma Stone)
- Tony Stark & Pepper Potts (Robert Downey Jr & Gwyneth Paltrow)
- Superman/Clark Kent & Lois Lane (Christopher Reeve & Margot Kidder)
- Captain America/Steve Rogers & Peggy Carter (Chris Evans & Hayley Atwell)

That's it really... I can't really think of any other memorable comic book film romances (maybe Michael Keaton & Kim Bassinger but she was a tad annoying at times and Michael Keaton & Michelle Pfeiffer were brilliant, but that wasn't really a romantic relationship per se).

There's loads of memorable romances in the comics, but not really in film. I didn't buy:

- Tobey Maquire & Kirsten Dunst
- Chris Hemsworth & Natalie Portman
- James Marsden & Famke Janssen
- Hugh Jackman & Famke Janssen
- Hugh Jackman & Lynn Collins (Kayla Silverfox)
- Hugh Jackman & Tao Okamoto (I will admit that Mariko is underrated and their relationship was pretty good, but I wouldn't say it was 'memorable')
- Anna Pacquin & Shawn Ashmore
- Shawn Ashmore & Ellen Page (I doubt I'll like their relationship in Days of Future Past too because I didn't in X-Men 3)
- James McAvoy & Rose Byrne (Moira MacTaggert)
- Jennifer Lawrence & Nicholas Hoult
- Eric Bana & Jennifer Connelly
- Edward Norton & Liv Tyler
- Ioan Gruffudd & Jessica Alba
- Ben Affleck & Jennifer Garner
- Nicholas Cage & Eva Mendes
- Val Kilmer & Nicole Kidman
- Christian Bale & Katie Holmes or Maggie Gyllenhaal
- Christian Bale & Anne Hathaway (They were good, but a little rushed and the film had too much going on to develop it.)
- Ryan Reynolds & Blake Lively
- Henry Cavill & Amy Adams (yet)
 
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All the twitter reactions lately have been VERY good.
 


Just watched this.

I have to admit i enjoyed the movie, even though there are so many problems with it. It´s enjoyable, but very far from great.

The best thing about the movie was Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone. Two great actor that pull off two great performances. It´s easy to care about the characters when you have such talented actors portraying them. Even though i think Andrew has aged quite a bit since the last movie and looks now too old to be playing Peter Parker.

The movie is full of romantic scenes. Some of them are good, some of them are boring. Overall, i think there´s too much whining between them, wich after a while becomes a little repetitive.

The plot and story are very weak. It seems Sony isn´t very interested in innovating and delivering something fresh and original. Everything is ultra predictable and gave me the feeling that i had already watched that movie before. Both story and character development are rushed in order to leave time for the tiresome visual spectacle.

The villains are ok, but everything about them is rushed and sometimes they come across as lame frustrated guys with poor motivations.

Even the action is nothing to write home about. It has a couple of good moments and i do like some of the new camera angles they used, but sometimes the CGI became too obvious and the slow motion was badly used.

The amazing Spider-Man 2 is a movie with a good sense of humor. But sometimes i got the feeling they were trying just way too hard to be funny all the time, and often it didn´t work. It seems like nothing in this movie is well balanced.

The only thing i really loved about this was Gwen´s death. It was really well done. Very emotional moment.

This movie feels very different from the previous. It feels more like a studio movie. Less artistic, more commercial. I wonder how much creative control the director had...

Verdict: More of the same with a few good moments sprinkled here and there. I´m not so sure i´m gonna pay to watch The Amazing Spider-Man 3. Tickets are very expensive and i don´t feel like giving money to people who don´t even make an effort to create something special, even though they have the tools to do it.

6/10

Two great reviews overall :up:

Predator, the only criticism you made I wouldn't agree with is Harry's motive. It was fine and credible. Needing a cure. Not a very Goblin-esque motivation, but still a solid one.
 
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Just watched this.

I have to admit i enjoyed the movie, even though there are so many problems with it. It´s enjoyable, but very far from great.

The best thing about the movie was Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone. Two great actor that pull off two great performances. It´s easy to care about the characters when you have such talented actors portraying them. Even though i think Andrew has aged quite a bit since the last movie and looks now too old to be playing Peter Parker.

The movie is full of romantic scenes. Some of them are good, some of them are boring. Overall, i think there´s too much whining between them, wich after a while becomes a little repetitive.

The plot and story are very weak. It seems Sony isn´t very interested in innovating and delivering something fresh and original. Everything is ultra predictable and gave me the feeling that i had already watched that movie before. Both story and character development are rushed in order to leave time for the tiresome visual spectacle.

The villains are ok, but everything about them is rushed and sometimes they come across as lame frustrated guys with poor motivations.

Even the action is nothing to write home about. It has a couple of good moments and i do like some of the new camera angles they used, but sometimes the CGI became too obvious and the slow motion was badly used.

The amazing Spider-Man 2 is a movie with a good sense of humor. But sometimes i got the feeling they were trying just way too hard to be funny all the time, and often it didn´t work. It seems like nothing in this movie is well balanced.

The only thing i really loved about this was Gwen´s death. It was really well done. Very emotional moment.

This movie feels very different from the previous. It feels more like a studio movie. Less artistic, more commercial. I wonder how much creative control the director had...

Verdict: More of the same with a few good moments sprinkled here and there. I´m not so sure i´m gonna pay to watch The Amazing Spider-Man 3. Tickets are very expensive and i don´t feel like giving money to people who don´t even make an effort to create something special, even though they have the tools to do it.

6/10

What's poor about Harry's motivations?
 
I’d like to ”punch out” right now, by saying that I certainly do not feel this movie is only worth a 72% on rotten. I feel pretty confident in saying that. And I feel sorry for you guys, whom are eagerly awaiting to see this movie, that you even have to look at that ****. Cause quite frankly, I think this one deserves something between 80-83%, when all is said and done. ”The Amazing Spiderman 2” is still a winner in my book. And I can’t wait for you guys in the US to see it.

RATING: A STRONG 8 out of 10

Great read, thanks for the thoughtful review Naite.

I'm one of those poor saps in the US that you feel sorry for who can't see this movie for another week and a half, but one thing I wonder about in reading some reviews is that many reviewers admit to shedding a tear or crying, but review the movie at a 6 or 7 (you gave it a strong 8).

I get the film isn't perfect and has some weaknesses or shortcomings, but to me, to be invested in the characters of a film enough to cry for them, doesn't the film earn at least an 8? I mean, how many cbm's pack that kind of emotional wallop and have characters audiences care enough about to cry?

I'll have to continue to wait to find out.
 
@Naite22 has restored my hope for this movie. I know how worried you were about it, knowing you like it has calmed my nerves. :) Great review man!
 
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