The Batman General News & Discussion Thread

[Spider-Aziz]

I’d only want an R rated Batman if they went full on horror a la Arkham Asylum: ASHOSE. I don’t need curse words or bloody violence.

I thought this was a censored version of ********, not the acronym for A Serious House on a Serious Earth.

 

[BarryLyndon]

You know rated r doesn’t only mean violence, it also means mature subject and story.

And about WW and Aquaman, that is my opinion, but I could go for hours why i think so!

just that scene of Aquaman walking out of the ocean with his girl on the sand with some ****ty music explain it all.

But hey, I must be a picky guy, but I just can’t see how you can like this kind of scene and two complete hours of it.

 

[emielaen]

100% agree.

and yes those interviews are really promising and everyone is saying the same things which is encouraging.

Let’s now hope that WB has more balls and let reeves do his film without too much boundaries. Surely Joker must have learned them something.

Let’s keep our fingers crossed!

And between I’m happy to see fans of Batman wishing for a more adult/serious/crime thriller. I must say I was losing faith since BVS and JL which IMHO are kind of the BF and B&R of modern day. Even Marvel for me are entertaining at their best but that is all (yes, I’m in Scorsese camp)

And don’t get me started on WW and Aquaman, which I found to be abominations.

I’d put myself in that camp as well. They’re mostly entertaining, but it’s pretty much that and that only for the duration of the runtime. Theme park ride is probably the best analogy for them tbh. No rollercoaster is fun after the fact.

and WW was fine. Aquaman was pretty dumb, but I had fun with it. They fall into that same category.

 

[emielaen]

Well, speak of the devil, a new interview came out in which Robert literally compared this movie's script and how he wants to approach it to Joker.



Nieuwe Batman Robert Pattinson: ’Faalangst grote drijfveer’

The interview was done like a month and a half ago or 2 months or something like that.

Adam Sandler Uncut Gems gif x12

You all know which one too.

 

[Boom]

King has spoken.

 

[C Prometheus]

Well, speak of the devil, a new interview came out in which Robert literally compared this movie's script and how he wants to approach it to Joker.

Nieuwe Batman Robert Pattinson: ’Faalangst grote drijfveer’

The interview was done like a month and a half ago or 2 months or something like that.

And this is why I'd be open to Reeves possibly making The Batman rated R, in order to have more space to fully achieve this goal that Pattinson's talking about here. I do think it can be done without the R rating, but admittedly there's more headroom to work with if you have that R rating.

 

[emielaen]

And this is why I'd be open to Reeves possibly making The Batman rated R, in order to have more space to fully achieve this goal that Pattinson's talking about here. I do think it can be done without the R rating, but admittedly there's more headroom to work with if you have that R rating.

Agreed. If Reeves feels he needs to go that route, then I just hope WB is up for it.

 

[Zorro]

Either way is good but I am expecting Reeves to take PG-13 to the limit without being too watered down

 

[Gothamsknight]

Well, speak of the devil, a new interview came out in which Robert literally compared this movie's script and how he wants to approach it to Joker.



Nieuwe Batman Robert Pattinson: ’Faalangst grote drijfveer’

The interview was done like a month and a half ago or 2 months or something like that.

Great interview!

 

[BarryLyndon]

I’d put myself in that camp as well. They’re mostly entertaining, but it’s pretty much that and that only for the duration of the runtime. Theme park ride is probably the best analogy for them tbh. No rollercoaster is fun after the fact.

and WW was fine. Aquaman was pretty dumb, but I had fun with it. They fall into that same category.

Yeah maybe I'm a bit harsh with WW, I'm not against the idea behind that movie and the purpose of it in today's world, it's just that for me the concept was better than the result. I find these movies cheesy in a way I didn't know could even exist, haha. For me, they're on the same quality and brain level as Fast and furious, Resident Evil or even Twilight.

And don't get me wrong, I like entertainments and Blockbusters (and you know, Batman), I just don't like the way they're made since the beginning of the last decade, even further. Much of them lack soul, hard work and even poesy in a technical and narrative way, it's always on the surface, I'm rarely impressed by them. James Gunn was a breath of fresh air, or Taika Watiti, at least they have a signature but they're confined within the Marvel system.

So, except for a few directors, good movies... and I mean well written, edited, shot and directed pictures are rare these days...

or maybe it's always been like that and I'm just getting old. [sigh]

 

[emielaen]

Yeah maybe I'm a bit harsh with WW, I'm not against the idea behind that movie and the purpose of it in today's world, it's just that for me the concept was better than the result. I find these movies cheesy in a way I didn't know could even exist, haha. For me, they're on the same quality and brain level as Fast and furious, Resident Evil or even Twilight.

And don't get me wrong, I like entertainments and Blockbusters (and you know, Batman), I just don't like the way they're made since the beginning of the last decade, even further. Much of them lack soul, hard work and even poesy in a technical and narrative way, it's always on the surface, I'm rarely impressed by them. James Gunn was a breath of fresh air, or Taika Watiti, at least they have a signature but they're confined within the Marvel system.

So, except for a few directors, good movies... and I mean well written, edited, shot and directed pictures are rare these days...

or maybe it's always been like that and I'm just getting old. [sigh]

them lacking soul or any heart has been the MCU and blockbusters for a while. I didn’t like Ragnarok or GotG2, but GotG1 was nice.

There were a pretty solid amount of those (bold) films last year imo. They just weren’t blockbusters. Some were foreign, indies, etc.

 

[Invader Joker]

I think the MCU has plenty of soul in each and every one of their movies (except Thor 2 and Iron Man 2) and they're weirdly underrated by elitist film circles but I'm not going to get into that here lol I do agree I hope Batman is something different and deeper though.

 

[emielaen]

I think the MCU has plenty of soul in each and every one of their movies (except Thor 2 and Iron Man 2) and they're weirdly underrated by elitist film circles but I'm not going to get into that here lol I do agree I hope Batman is something different and deeper though.

‍ The films are fine, but they’re nothing extraordinary imo. They’re mostly mediocre, sometimes bad, and sometimes good.

I’d say they’re weirdly overrated by people who tend to only watch popular, blockbuster, franchise, IP driven films, but I won’t get into that here.

 

[BarryLyndon]

There were a pretty solid amount of those films last year imo. They just weren’t blockbusters.

You're absolutely right and I'm relived by people like the Safdie Brothers, Lanthimos and others like them, which I truly consider great cinema. PTA's Punch Drunk Love may be one of my favorite movie.

But I really meant Blockbusters, which is also fun from time to time. Look, take any old one, even if they're not masterpiece, at least they're mostly trying to achieve something new or they at least know how to write three acts without having plot holes everywhere. They have a consistencies and technicians and artists seemed to have a greater knowledge in the language of cinema.

Some script now I can't even believe are being made, it really is just money for money and it is right in our face. Everything seems cheap, simple and straight to the point. Goddamnit Wayne's world is better written than most of Marvel movies!

I may be exaggerating a bit... but I really hope you get what I'm saying and I mean to insult no one in here.

All in all, not to sound cliché, but look at Joker, it really showed that people are hungry for good movies and studios should listen.

Make money fine, it's the business, but at least make good work and it will pay even more.

 

[BarryLyndon]

I think the MCU has plenty of soul in each and every one of their movies (except Thor 2 and Iron Man 2) and they're weirdly underrated by elitist film circles but I'm not going to get into that here lol I do agree I hope Batman is something different and deeper though.

Which is fine and I can see how Marvel are giving chances to a lot of creative people and taking risk from time to time. But at the end, they're confined and they're delivering the same story again and again.

And yes I agree with you, Batman has always attracted interesting directors and actors. It may be the only world that could be as much a blockbuster and a serious masterpiece.

Believe me, I don't want to sound like a pseudo-intellectual, I really like movies and want them to surprise me more than deceive me. They do not have to be deep and profound every time, just well made no matter the genre!

 

[Invader Joker]

Make money find, it's the business, but at least make good work and it will pay even more.

I sincerely think the MCU does genuinely good work that really resonate with people on an emotional level. People take waaaay too much for granted the MCU's success. If all the MCU had to offer was action, it wouldn't resonate with people in the immensely global and passionate way it has for more than 22 movies. There's a reason why most studios that try to replicate the MCU fail miserably. Maybe it doesn't resonate emotionally for you, but for the vast majority of people it does, and to keep that up for 22 movies is a feat that really no one should take for granted nor minimize.

 

[BarryLyndon]

I sincerely think the MCU does genuinely good work that really resonate with people on an emotional level. People take waaaay too much for granted the MCU's success. If all the MCU had to offer was action, it wouldn't resonate with people in the immensely global and passionate way it has for more than 22 movies. There's a reason why most studios that try to replicate the MCU fail miserably. Maybe it doesn't resonate emotionally for you, but for the vast majority of people it does, and to keep that up for 22 movies is a feat that really no one should take for granted nor minimize.

At first if you looked at Iron Man 2-3, Incredible Hulk, Thor 1-2 and even captain america, most of critics and even people in here didn't like them. I think it has more to do with the fact that they never stopped and now from a distance it seems impressive and it is.

Sincerely, out of 22, how many are really good, like good stand-alone film, point a, point b with a complete satisfying arc?

But look, I have been entertained by some of them but rarely mesmerized. I thought they took bold move with some decisions and they really try to be innovative with some of their choices. I respect all of that, but they're becoming overexposed and I think people go see them because there's not much more blockbusters with so many well known people and with this kind of budget.

They're making history that is for sure, but not in terms of quality more than entertainment. Compare it to fast food, everybody likes it but nobody really think it's the best food they've ever eaten.

And BigMacs were a lot better in the 90s than today, haha.

We should talk about Batman now!

I just love that the straps on his suits are creating his spike, when you think about it, in the comics, they were only a design of his glove. So basically they're staying true to the comics while approaching it differently, pretty nice and something not a lot would have ever thought!

 

[Invader Joker]

At first if you looked at Iron Man 2-3, Incredible Hulk, Thor 1-2 and even captain america, most of critics and even people in here didn't like them. I think it has more to do with the fact that they never stopped and now from a distance it seems impressive and it is.

Sincerely, out of 22, how many are really good, like good stand-alone film, point a, point b with a complete satisfying arc?

But look, I have been entertained by some of them but rarely mesmerized. I thought they took bold move with some decisions and they really try to be innovative with some of their choices. I respect all of that, but they're becoming overexposed and I think people go see them because there's not much more blockbusters with so many well known people and with this kind of budget.

They're making history that is for sure, but not in terms of quality more than entertainment. Compare it to fast food, everybody likes it but nobody really think it's the best food they've ever eaten.

And BigMacs were a lot better in the 90s than today, haha.

We should talk about Batman now!

I just love that the straps on his suits are creating his spike, when you think about it, in the comics, they were only a design of his glove. So basically they're staying true to the comics while approaching it differently, pretty nice and something not a lot would have ever thought!

I went through an entire MCU marathon before Endgame and I'd sincerely say all of them except Iron Man 2 and Thor 2.

And when it comes to the straps... I still think they'll be spikes in Robert's suit but we'll see.

 

[cryptic name]

Batman Returns might be the only movie where Batman doesn't break any kind of glass himself.
Will this new Batman maintain the habit of breaking glass? Especially windows.

I’d love a good skylight drop in this flick.

 

[shauner111]

Aquaman and Wonder Woman probably aren't on a lot of people's top favorite cbm list but abominations? There are films that truly define that word and those two do not!

Aquaman may actually be my favorite or among top favorite dc films since TDKR(even though that one disappointed me)

Aquaman is pure trash to me. I liked Wonder Woman but the villains were Shumacher level bad.

 

[BarryLyndon]

I went through an entire MCU marathon before Endgame and I'd sincerely say all of them except Iron Man 2 and Thor 2.

And when it comes to the straps... I still think they'll be spikes in Robert's suit but we'll see.

It's been two films since those were weapon, I think they have to differentiate themselves from the others. We'll see.

And sincerely, good for you and it is your opinion which I respect. I love Paul Rudd, Robert Downey Jr. (Kiss kiss bang bang is one of my favorite) and the chemistry between all the actors on screen but it stops there for me.

Infinity war may be one of my favorite, Doctor Strange made me think a lot at Big Trouble in Little China, which I adore and GotG 2 is for me a really cheesy but very well made film, just like Thor Ragnarok. It's just that I can see miles away their Disney rules which downrate the writing a lot. Disney made great movies, don't get me wrong, the first Pirates of the Caribbean is near being a Masterpiece.

In conclusion, I know from a certain perspective Marvel movies are really enjoyable, they just don't reach me like Raimi's Spider-man or Burton and Nolan's Batman reached me, even the first Sin City, which was a blast at the time. Those had something artistic and auteurish in them which i loved a lot and don't find in majority of the blockbusters of these days.

 

[TMP98]

It may be the only world that could be as much a blockbuster and a serious masterpiece.

If Dune's a hit, then that'll be one

 

[BarryLyndon]

If Dune's a hit, then that'll be one

Yeah I meant comic world, sorry about that.

But I sure hope Dune is a masterpiece. Denis Villeneuve is from my city and we really are proud of him as a filmmaker. He really represent how we like movies here.

My neighbor was going to work on the set as a painter and told me those were massive and a lot of it is shot in the real desert. He refused it to not lose his contract here! Can you imagine?

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Dune has a genuine shot at being one of the greatest science-fiction films ever made. An all-time classic. Five people will see it and it's not going to get a sequel and it will be very sad.

Still gonna be a capital-M Masterpiece though.

 

[thangaran]

I hope the film is shot with a mix of style and grittiness. I’d love some of the realism of Nolan melded with the romantic mythic quality of Burton’s movies. I don’t want Larry Fong’s style here with the exception of how the warehouse scene was shot.

What would be great is to also be able to see what is going on the darn screen. So much cinematography now days is uber dull and dark like GoTs entire last season that it was impossible to actually see anything which was so dumb. I hope there is just enough brightness, color and vibrancy that the look is crisp and sharp yet also maintain that sense of deep darkness that Batman should have. Many of Fincher’s films follow this so I am hoping the rumors of this being inspired by Fincher are true